I 100% believe there should be a 7.62x25mm pistol cartridge based on the 10mm auto designed for all 10mm auto semiauto pistols with high pressures, loaded with .30 cal bullets for the sake of the diverse options in .30 cal.
a 7.62x25 would only need a barrel change, and loaded with lehigh super cavitators would be a true blaster. change the barrel and you've got your 10mm back. win-win.
pic semi unrelated, because 7.62x25/.30x10mm hasn't been done and it would kick unreasonable amounts of ass.
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think of a 7.62x25 tokarev length pistol with a .357 sig case capacity
not sure if I can self bump this, don't wanna spam, but c'mon how would this not be the shit? tokarevs are the shit and 10mm is tits. I can't see a problem here.
I dont really care. I want a fucking 7.62x25 carbine all ready. I have a fuck ton of this kinda dirty Romainian ammo from Sweaty Ben and only one Tok. Please no cucked PPS43 suggestions. Just give me a PC carbine barrel swap or some shit.
Get a Spanish Destroyer carbine and re-line the barrel
If you don't wanna bubba one up, see if a Marlin Camp 9 would work.
I remember years ago someone made a single-shot out of a .410 shotgun, NEF Pardner, had a new barrel made for it
I want. 50gi to be more widely available and popular. I want 350 gr bullets with the trajectory of crossbow bolts
So a 10mm necked down to .30 cal? I would dig it
If you want there to be one, make one. Wildcats are how all good cartridges start. As you say, the gun is just a barrel change from 10mm, so you're paying for a custom barrel and a set of dies -- as self-loading wildcat projects go, that's cheap and easy.
Custom dies and chamber reamers are no big deal, but if you're on a budget, you may be able to find some rifle cartridge that's close enough, and shorten a sizing die to suit. You won't get perfect results this way, but it could get you close enough; you can then send once-fired cases out to get perfect dies.
Likely candidates include .30-40 Krag (a little small at the shoulder), or 7.35x51 Carcano, 7.65×53mm Argentine, or 7.7×58mm Arisaka (all a little big at the shoulder).
Most shops don't want to fuck around with the hard nitride layer of a factory Glock barrel, so the cheap route is probably getting an aftermarket stainless 10mm barrel, and having someone ream it out and line it.
it's called 9x25 dillon smallbrains
and it's a monster
you'd need to get a Glock 20 barrel blank, because you're going down from 10mm
do they even sell those
>hur durr i cant read
9x25 is in the fucking OP
while we're here in the thread, HVSC rounds are a thing, OP's idea is basically 7.62 tok with american sized balls. Or an affordable/feasible 7.5FK.
youre kinda sorta on to something, but it wont be mainstream for the same mysterious reason 357sig isnt as popular as it should be since its basically the .308 to 357mag's 30-06
There's AR15 builds.
Implying a 10mm necked to a 60grn 6.5mm projectile wouldn't be superior.
Wtf is this monstrosity
Im not sure why, but I want this.
An AR15 sbr in 7.62mm Tokarev, using PPS43 magazines.
The Tokarev round is ass, the Tokarev pistols are ancient slav shit, and it's stupid to put that round in .40 brass when better ones exist already.
7.5 BRNO
Pls gib
Simple and utilitarian setup and aesthetics?
Short, light, and handy, with just enough barrel to make the most out of .30 Tokarev, using common subgun mags, the A1 style carry handle looking just right, and having all the simplicity that's needed for a pistol cartridge (albeit a reasonably flat shooting one), also featuring the A2 style brass deflector (suggesting this is a Canadian receiver).
The only obvious improvement would be a select-fire setting, and maybe some manner of drum magazine, just for the fun of it.
Mildly related, here's a Cobray M11/9 pistol built for .30 Tokarev, some people built some curious stuff back when the surplus ammo was much more plentiful.
My nigger. I love that round.
Sure they do.
But thinking it over, I'm not sure why we're basing it off 10mm. Why not .45 Winchester Magnum? Pretty much every 10mm platform is also available in .45, and it's that much more powder space... plus, starting from a longer case, you could make it 25.6mm long, thus rounding to 7.62x26, and avoiding confusion with the 7.6*x25 Borchardt/Mauser/Tokarev family.
I know you can widen a 5.56 bolt to accept 7.62tok, but I've also heard you can just use a 5.45 bolt, which would be more expensive but wouldn't require you to take a power tool to the bolt. How true is this?
Couldn't tell you, that's not something I've done.
This, basically.
Too bad the pistol costs $7000 and will never catch on.
A PCC in 7.62x25 would be an amazing varmint rifle. The proper loads have more energy than 9mm.
Maybe the cartridge will be adopted by other brands
No, BLANKS
without the rifling, chamber or actual hole
Because OP is too retarded to realize the existence of sabots and 95gr 9x25. Other than that people have already cut down .30 carbine and made .30 carbine pistols. But OP is right, it would be a blaster and it's only application would be novelty
It's not popular because it's not doing anything that 9mm and .40 don't and it was predates by the .356tsw
Honestly, just give me a .500 S&W necked down to .357 for a gun that'll kick the shit out of 7.62x39 in a handgun.
Nobody sells what you describe for any Glock, 10mm or not, because that's not the order actual barrels are machined in. See pic related, the bore is finished, but the lug isn't.
That's why the post you were replying to is talking about buying a completed barrel, and relining it; this is the most economical approach to a one-off, .30-caliber Glock barrel.
pic related
oh okay cool
>hrrrr I didn't even look at OP's pic
How do the magazines lock into the receiver? Are the PPS magazines modified for use in an AR?
I have no idea.
>7.5FK
This, what kind of faggot makes a post about wanting something that already exists to exist? All one needs to do is make a non proprietary version.
But 7.5FK is 35mm OAL, doesn't fit in 10mm mags. I don't think any of the 7.62tok pistols are robust enough to handle it, so instead of a simple conversion of an inexpensive pistol, you're stuck with rare/expensive/comically oversized shit like Wildeys, Automags, and Deagles.
Bain?
Yeah, so shorten the case to fit.
>quit whining about your dream cartridge not existing
>all you need to do is make it from a completely different cartridge
>see, it totally already exists!
How is making it from 7.5FK brass any different than making it from 10mm brass? Either way it doesn't actually exist until you come up with a barrel and a set of reloading dies.
at least it exists on some form
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