What's up Jow Forums. Having always been interested in weapons warfare, I've always loved camo.
I used to go to the surplus store with my dad as a kid and buy old medals and jackets at shit, we still hit them up occasionally to this day.
That being said, I've never delved too far into military/war history until now, as I'm going to be studying it in university starting next year.
What are your guys' favorite camos and why? If you don't mind posting the country and era along with your pics, and maybe a bit of background if you feel like it. Obscure shit is definitely welcome
I'm trying to learn more while gaining inspo for the next jackets I hunt down.
Marpat and Flecktarn because they work where I currently live. Tricolor desert because it's simple and works where I used to. Alpenflage camo for the aesthetic
MultiCam Tropic offers nothing new or particularly good, it's just the name that sells. If you live somewhere that works then Cadpat works even better and M05 or Tigerstripe would also be worth considering.
Evan Hill
But good gear is made with multimeme.
Isaac Nguyen
>Inb4 Nathan Bedford Forrest shows up and defends the superiority of M81 Woodland with rose-tinted glasses
Gabriel Bell
Stop talking, Multicam Tropic works fine for what it was intended for. The only reason you say it's shit is because it's a Multicam pattern instead of something fresh.
"Russian SOF" are opposing our men and women in Syria, and are training factions whose main desire is to bring harm to america and israel. Fuck you edgy piece of shit
Jacob Hughes
I typically operate wearing digital FireStorm camo pattern. It’s supior in fire based environments, and even works well in fall environments.
Homemade or improvised camouflage that actually works the the absolute coolest shit. Patterns are all well and good, but I like a uniform that took craftsmanship. So, ghillies fall into that too I guess.
I've been wanting to get some Gorka pants in ATACS, I just don't trust ruskie quality.
Mason Martinez
If you move your head away from the screen and do that thing with your eyes where you unfocus you can see which one blends best. You can look at jpgs all day long, point is your brain in playing that trick on you
What does this post even mean? Are you implying MC is "dark green"? Is UCP "dark green"? Are "Crye shills" fans of Japanese woodland patterns? Are you implying that UCP is worth a goddamn? What are you saying?
The people next to the army dude are wearing dark green camo. Multicam was a mistake. Doesn't work anywhere and it doesn't even have the advantage of looking good in winter.
Luis Murphy
So....what does dark green have to do with multicam? What is your point about winter? Multicam is a more neutral pattern than M81 which means it's inherently more conducive to a winter/dead vegetation environment. You sound incredibly ignorant of every subject you have attempted to broach. UCP is demonstrably, objectively one of the worst general issue patterns in history. It is certainly the worst that the US army has ever fielded. Chiefs of staff, congress, and the president have all admitted this. Those who adopted the pattern WITHOUT TESTING IT are lucky they weren't found criminally negligent.
for coniferous woods maybe, deciduous not so much. flecktarn is best for both
William Morgan
My three favorites, hands-down. Are they useful? Maybe. Probably not. I just like them. Have been mulling over the thought of dying chocolate chip to be green lately just for the fuck of it. If I go through, I'll post here.
I like soviet camos a lot, especially the early ones that have basically leaves printed onto a green background. But my favourite of all time is early berezkha KLMK patterns. Mostly the light green and white sun rays, although the yellowish special forces version is okay too. It works well in mild climate summers where the greenery is very bright and the treetops arent as thick as in a jungle, making the sun spots advantageous. I like other rare camos too like serbian purple/blue tigerstripe, as well as phillipino forest chocolate chip.
Unironically this, the perfect blend of aethstetics and functionality
Lincoln Barnes
this obsession with patterns makes little sense to me - so long as achieves disruption and breaks up the human silhouette, it'll work. A pattern only needs to work long enough for a patrol to get to the point where it can bring weapons to bear directly on the enemy and not get decimated by enemy standoff weaponry. It's not a tall order and doesn't require changing the uniform every few years.
Ayden Rivera
SS Leto is probably the best overall I'd say. it tends to work well in most places with green environments, and if it's fall time or dry season you can just switch to the brown dominant reverse. kinda the beauty of having a reversible smock. British WW2 paratrooper smocks and their camo patterns have been slept on hard as fuck and deserve more attention. also a good choice. also works pretty well against certain types of night vision from what I hear. if I remember correctly that's one of the marine corps's experimental camo designs. it's supposed to be an urban camo, sometimes it's nicknamed Urban-T or some other shit like that. it probably works a lot better than all those weird re-colorings of classic camo patterns like DPM or woodland with "urban" colors like black white and/or blue.
Camouflage pattern performance is measurable in a scientific setting. There is no reason not to improve upon designs that are found to be inferior to what you can field in the current time frame. What is the argument here? A pattern that once was general issue worked well enough not to be replaced? The same argument could be used for khaki or olive drab uniforms, but issuing what is a demonstrably more effective uniform gives soldiers greater survivability on the battlefield.
M81 suffered from a few very clear problems that made it less effective than a variety of other modern patterns. It had a macropattern, but no micropattern, making it less suitable to concealment at closer ranges. It was heavily predisposed to a blobbing effect due to the extensive use of oversaturated black. It performed poorly in the NIR spectrum relative to newer patterns as well. The USMC found these problems to be serious enough to develop MARPAT, even with their constricted budget. Testing conducted by the Army later on would demonstrate the exact same issues with the pattern.
Camouflage patterns are a technology to be used in the field. Trivializing the importance of issuing a superior pattern by saying that "camouflage isn't really that important" or "it works well enough" doesn't make a lot of sense. Clearly in this case, the reason that people are saying it is because they like the aesthetics of an older pattern. That obviously isn't reasons enough to keep it around when you can do better. If soldiers get killed for a reason as stupid as their command issued them a shitty camo pattern, the military is wrong as fuck.
It's fall so jigsaw wins right now, other favs are US woodland, splinter and I know it's not camo but OD green, anyone ever notice pic related bosnian serb tigerstripe?
My favourite camo pattern is probably Russian Shadow camo, it works very well at night. I've always loved the look.
Not BDU's but I buy Rothco T-Shirts of the camos that they offer and I have a white Berezkha hat. As someone who likes camo it's a way to wear it everyday without looking too autistic.
I used to wear KLMK a lot when I was airshitting in northern France and Belgium, it is diabolically effective. Especially in spring and summer, but these are regions in which you can find green foliage all year long so your kit isn't useless. But my favorite camo has always been pic related.
