What are the best crops to grow for when SHTF?

Also way more efficient and durable than wheat. When the potato got to Ireland they tripled their food output so the nobility did the only reasonable thing and took 2 thirds of the land from the peasants.

leafy greens such as lettuce and others or whatever else you can grow with hydroponics or aquaponics

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ps, NFT master race

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Corn, lentils/beans, potatoes. For the following reasons
>alcohol
>corn meal, grits, chicken feed
>protein
>carbs
>easy to grow

Fucking zucchini man. One zucchini plant can feed a fucking village. If s ever htfs, that's what I'm gonna do. Just grow and trade zucchini.

>implying youll have enough surplus yield for distilling

Whats the.22lr-zuccini exchange rate?

I'll give you 2 for one bullet. That's how zucchini you'll be putting out.

If you live far enough away, it’s not hard to distill in small batches. It’s not a thing that you can do right off the bat. But if you aren’t a nigger and know how to save, you can slowly expand your crop until you have enough to distille

weed

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I'd rather die than live off zucchini

These:
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Well, that simplifies the equation.

It has 17 calories for every 100grams

No need to, you would die anyway if you tried to eat enought of it.

>not trading for zucchini
it's not like you're going to find a new bad dragon dildo anywhere anytime soon

Potatoes
Tomatoes
Now you got fries and ketchup.

DUDE

You? Cum. Probably

We have been over this a few times by now, haven't we?

Basic parameters:
- how many people are you planning on feeding?
- how many people can you rely on for the work intensive part like tending the fields and harvesting?
- are you planning for dry lands, wet lands, fucking tundra, or something pleasant and bountiful?
- how will your access to seeds be?
- are you planning for the chaos of war and despair and roving looters, or for a sparsely populatyed wilderness where you and your crop will be left alone?
- full access to delicious clean water, or chemical stained rivers of the Chinese type?
- long winter, short winter, or here's the fucking ice age?
- fertilizer? Got any fertilizer?

Nope...well, yes, but only hardy leafy greens like cabbage which you can pickle into sour kraut. Typical salid greens are too delicate and not worth the crop space because like wheat, it won't feed a lot of people and won't store well.

Grow cabbage, onions, turnips, beans and corn.

>how many people are you planning on feeding?
Probably only 1 desu
>how many people can you rely on for the work intensive part like tending the fields and harvesting?
No room for fields lmao
>are you planning for dry lands, wet lands, fucking tundra, or something pleasant and bountiful?
Fucking Chicago, small patio area
>how will your access to seeds be?
Not great
>are you planning for the chaos of war and despair and roving looters, or for a sparsely populatyed wilderness where you and your crop will be left alone?
It'll be a literal race warzone
>full access to delicious clean water, or chemical stained rivers of the Chinese type?
I hope it rains
>long winter, short winter, or here's the fucking ice age?
Pretty normal winter
>fertilizer? Got any fertilizer?
I could buy some

Do me. Any indoor options?

Thanks dad

Squash is known to keep well and resist disease. Always grow some as insurance.

It's actually best for long term stockpiling. liquor does have calories and alcohol has almost universal value. Dried corn might last a year or two but booze is good for decades.

uhhh, cannibalism?

>be irish
>find a solution to the lack of food
>gets the solution taken away
>such is life in ireland

Potatos, carrots, beans, corn if you have the space. Potatos and carrots do really well in 5 gallon buckets. Learn how to start growing things now so you dont kill your crop and die. Also, start composting for natural fertilizer. It's free.

Wheat is good for planting in the winter to have in the spring, so it's a pretty good crop if you have the climate for it. Corn is a summer crop.

What you're going to want is about 10 acres of total land to feed a family. This will include an orchard for fruit, forest for pigs to forage in, chickens, and several plots with a fairly wide variety of plants for each season. Exactly what you should plant is going to depend heavily on where you are, so I suggest contacting your local extension office for information about that.

Poppy, and hemp, just start manufacturing shit tons of drugs, shtf scenarios will always have meth heads and dope fiends, if you got the drugs you will have the power

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Rice, it will add to the defense of your land.

Cress. It's about the only thing you can grow in a short time and with very limited access to anything. Kindergarten kids can make this stuff grow with just cotton, water and light. It's full of c vitamins and also has calcium and potassium.

Potato is good stuff. Provided you can safekeep your plants until harvest time. Some have mentioned stuff that can co-grow with potatoes and mask their presence, but I don't have that at hand.

Miniature tomatoes can grow indoors. Not a lot of food per week to show for the effort, but they are morale helpers.

Miniature carrots also require little from the ground; they like sandier earth than say potatoes.

Dandelion grows under nearly any conditions. Although we think of it as a weed it is usable in salad, soup etc and also has herbal uses.

Heroin.

absolutely this. potatoes and kale

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I hate to be that conspiracy guy, but that looks really photoshopped

Boil 'em, mash 'em, stick 'em in a stew.

lighting on his right cheek.

Interested myself now
>- how many people are you planning on feeding?
4
>- how many people can you rely on for the work intensive part like tending the fields and harvesting?
4
>- are you planning for dry lands, wet lands, fucking tundra, or something pleasant and bountiful?
Live in SE Washington, Walla Walla valley
>- how will your access to seeds be?
Pretty good for basic Staples and stuff like squashes
>- are you planning for the chaos of war and despair and roving looters, or for a sparsely populatyed wilderness where you and your crop will be left alone?
About a mile off Hwy12 so not densely populated but close enough I'd probably have interaction with refugees/travelers
>- full access to delicious clean water, or chemical stained rivers of the Chinese type?
Got a well
>- long winter, short winter, or here's the fucking ice age?
Winters generally December to Feb/March, not too bad
>- fertilizer? Got any fertilizer?
Lots of chicken shit?

About 5-10 acres should do and still give you some leeway.

For specific crops, consult your local USDA extension office, they can advise you on what grows best in your soil type.

Also, livestock is recommended since they can graze and forage on land you aren't currently farming or are using as an orchard.

I've got 12 acres, with 4 or so of those wooded, and I want to be as self sustainable as I can. Got some chickens but looking at goats too

Also just planted 8 apple trees and some grape vines last summer.

WATS TATTERS

Jow Forums - Potatoes

came to unironically post this, if you can control pain killer supply after shtf just press opioium gum and trade, just max out your barter skill asap.

This guy isn't growing anything indoors in a SHTF situation, unless he has lights, generators, and huge fuel stores. Outdoors in soil is the only feasible solution, and you need steer manure (phosphorous) and rabbit/chicken manure (nitrogen) to keep the whole thing going long term. Not to mention a water source.

Pigs are best if you want something to send out to forage. You'll need a good fence though.

Hamburgers

Until shit ACTUALLY hits the fan, grow a MODEST AMOUNT of something you'll actually eat.
So sick of people growing 40 lbs of gross shit like peppers, tomatoes, and squash, and trying to pawn them off on everybody. If you really want to thrive, grow fruits, learn to make preserves, or better, learn to ferment them and make alcohol, then sell it and buy ammunition to hunt real food with.

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It’s very hard to make alcohol without the atf breathing down your neck and giving the family pet strange looks

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Don't tell them idiot

It's legal if the intent is to use it as fuel, true story

and guess what is high in vitamin B? butter. it is literally a match made in heaven.

Whats wrong with tomatoes?

Peppers are yummy! You can can them up. There are a huge variety of peppers you can grow in a variety of climates. Have some pepper jelly with some heat on crackers with brie and a good strong red wine!

NOM NOM!

Perfect for a chilly night when you curl up with a good book. I am reading "Roadside Picnic" right now. Comfy and cozy as the cold weather rolls in and the days get shorter.

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Walla Walla Valley (peeks quickly at wiki) is wine country. Sunny, but not very warm, and dry. Your challenge will be water. A well is nice but you will have to consider how to work the irrigation without access to electricity, and you will also have to consider how big an output of water you can hope for per time unit without running dry. I bet most of the farming in the area relies on transported water; you can't calculate with that remaining present.

In addition to wine grapes I see that sweet onion is a local staple. That might mean vegetables like carrots will like it there too. Not so sure your soil will support potatoes, but chicken shit will help. Chickens are a bitch to keep alive without access to grain or other fodder of the same type, but they are certainly good eating.

>have to reduce amount of arable land available to the peasantry because they turn the surplus into extra poitín and they're too drunk to be useful now

The only way to keep paddy productive is to make him choose between liquor and starving

>It’s very hard to make alcohol without the atf breathing down your neck
You are allowed to make 200 gallons per calendar year of beer and/or wine of any strength or alcohol concentration, as long as it is not distilled or frozen to further concentrate it. It can be freely given as gifts. As long as you are GIVING the beer to someone, and they GIVE you ammo in return, uncle Sam doesn't give a fuck about homebrew.
>tfw I'm on track to exceed 200 gallons this year, but my record keeping is so spotty that there's no way to prove it.

Goats will eat literally everything, just like pigs, and then they will start on the trees. Like pigs they make good eating and you can use the skin/fur on both. Goats have the extra advantage that you can use the milk, and iirc they are not as prone to get sick and die as pigs are.

Indoors was a flexible term I hoped. A veranda here, a backyard there, a roof, even the window sill. Inside where there's no sunlight there's not going to be growing anything but mold.

If you think basic vegs are gross shit you are not going to make it for long in shtf. How the hell did you even make it this far? Vitamin pills?

unironically corn & sweet potatoes

Drugs

A backyard is possible, but anything short of full sun is going to produce a small amount of thin, scraggly produce. You could probably get away with micro-greens in a sunny windowsill, but you aren't gonna do much more than that. If you can't grow outdoors, you are going to have a hard time doing it inside.

I am not arguing against you. If the guy who wanted to grow stuff indoors wanted to live on that farming alone, he'd hunger to death. But depending on time of the year he should have a chance to grow at least a little something to add to his rations.

Come a SHTF situation I'm either trying to be a substance farmer making applejack to trade or just immediately go to Mad Max mode.

I make cider from my orchard, and anything over 200 gallons I "make" in to vinegar.

Also freeze distillation isn't too hard, of course I'd never do that.

You're going to eat 1 or 2 a week and try to give the other 600 you grew to me.
You're an anomaly that actually found a use for peppers besides whatever the el goblinos are stinking up the lunch room microwave with.
I guess TV dinners actually DO have some nutritional value, but regardless, I'm advocating that you only grow what you will eat, not that you abandon gardening because i don't think something tastes good.

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Unless you're making hard liqueur, you don't even need a permit to make the stuff so long as it's for personal use.

Ask or maybe

If you have apple trees you'll be fine. Especially if you are capable of making jam or drying them. Applejack is nice but it is a luxury product for when people can afford such things again. And buddy, you might want to keep an eye on the methanol content.

If you only grow what you will eat, you will a) have nothing to barter with and b) when the output is far less than expectations because of SHTF issues or low farming skills you will not starve.

Also, a farmer will have to put some of the produce aside for next year's crop. Especially for potatoes, but also most other farming plants these years are one year only.

WEEDbro420lmaoXDD

I'm that guy, I think I'll stick to my original plan of recreating Rorkes Drift, then hiking 229 miles to my home town, dying somewhere along the way.

Well, let us look at it. Weed is a herb with some specifics.It helps reducing and you cam use it eein cake.
Perhaps other optoions as well?

My dad's a green thumb. He grows mints, tomatoes, lemons, basil, etc in the backyard. Live in the suburbs and it's either rainy or hot as hell here. Don't know if that'll be enough to survive, but if things were planned well enough and our neighbors are willing to come together during a crisis, then I can allow myself to be optimistic.

>And buddy, you might want to keep an eye on the methanol content.
FDA pls go

unironically the best piece of advice in this bread

Cassava's nice.