How was german CAS and air to ground capabilities in general in WW2...

This is the most famous incident I can think of: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Brown_and_Franz_Stigler_incident

I can see why Germany wouldve been a little upset about the whole thing, but the most interesting part in my opinion is the Allies not talking about it either for fear of humanizing the Germans.

>They werent shit, they just werent better then anyone else.

Like, I said, shit :^)

Bantzposting aside, I actually did mean it. They weren't worse than Russian or American CAS, it's just that all WW2 CAS was shit.

A little the blokes flying we early twenties, navigating with almost no equipment in the earlier years so I don't blame them

The British flew a tour of 30 odd missions then went to training schools if they survived, so new pilots would constantly be rotating though. The Germans kept their pilots flying until death, so the German pilots would be better, but their losses more significant as the new pilots would not have been taught from their experiance

american CAS was more effective, in the sense that they were aware how bad their accuracy was and could afford to fire enough ordnance to offset the lack of accuracy
they also used it heavily on soft targets, where accuracy didnt matter as much

so while still terrible on the tactical level, only 2% of knocked out vehicles were due to rockets, they were deadly on the strategic level by forcing germans to only move at night and greatly slowing down their ability to respond to allied maneuvers

an exception to the rule was bazooka charlie, who rigged his scout plane to fire bazookas at his target, and knocked out 5 enemy tanks

>I know that in Eastern Front Luftwaffe killed a gorillion soviet tanks,
operationbarbarossa.net/combat-aircraft-versus-armour-in-wwii/

>Attach bazookas to paper plane vulnerable to small arms fire
>Destroy 5 tanks

The absolute madman

I have found this. Is unrelated but cool

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Graveney_Marsh

>I know that in Eastern Front Luftwaffe killed a gorillion soviet tanks
They claimed to have killed a gorillion soviet tanks.

>>British airforce was a joke. Lead pilot was a navigator and the rest followed suit. If the lead went down the rest would panic and have to try and get back to friendly skies sometimes (I think he told me once about a german airman escorting some British pilots back to western france or something and then waving them bye when he turned back).

What absolute nonsense

Luftwaffe were a huge menace during the invasion of Norway in 1940, once they had taken the first airports. As in being a constant threat. Since Norway didn't have tanks and precious little anti-aircraft weapons and the air force was little more than an experiment yet (total Fighter force was just five Gloster Gladiators) the German airforce had a great time hunting for units on the move. Their only real enemies were the cold, the snow, the distances and the long dark nights. And the british Glosters from HMS Glorious, who also found the going hard against the ME-109s.

I had a relative participating in the fighting at Narvik. He has told me of being strafed a number of times.

Anti shipping, night attacks in late war, kg51 262s, arados. Fighters in the west staffed alot late war and could have bombs or br21s to attack ground shit. There was also that dude who blew up two Sherman's by shooting down a spit and it crashing into them

Beeing strafed is one thing user, actually providing something that made a big difference is another. Dont get me wrong, the Luftwaffe wasnr shit, they just didnt use aircraft as heavily as in France and the lowlands.

Must have been a terrible experience for your relative tho, I lived close to narvik for a few years and beeing in the military you visited all the places and read a lot about it. The Battle of Narvik was intresting, and tragic, from more perspectives then one

More info on that

I have been trying to collect military stuff over the years from all the forces present at Narvik, but it is a lot of terrain to cover as it includes Norwegian, English, French, Polish, German and Austrian units - and Swedish!. Finding genuinely provable Narvik battle related stuff is today near impossible and way out of my budget. I have been in Narvik a couple of times. They have a neato French tank outside the museum iirc.

Yeah, but they moved the tank into the new museum last time I checked.

That said, if you take a walk around the areas (naturally not those in or near the city) where battles happened, you can still pretty commonly find shellcasings and other leftovers

>There was also that dude who blew up two Sherman's by shooting down a spit and it crashing into them
And that mans name?
Albert Einstein

Here's some units to look @
Kg51
Skg10
Jabo units of jg26, jg2 (anti ship, strafing)
Nsg units
Other kamfgerswaders I dont know off the dome.

Also the early post BoB tip and run shit and night attacks leading up to Steinbocke were interesting
I could give an 8 hour dissertation on this shit and tactical ww2 airpower and dispell alot of common misconceptions but I dont have time. Basically every side over claimed victories, under claimed losses, and had effective aircraft for their doctraines and needs. However by July 44 the luftwaffe was basically fighting a guerrilla air war and was effective when it could muster fuel, good pilots, and airframes, however it seems east was becoming the priority. Many things were blown out of proportion on both sides such as airframe quality (early vvs, late okl) ect.

Thank you user

Then everyone in the restaurant clapped

are you kidding?

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Nope.

Do you have any info of such event?