Is it worth paying to have a gunsmith pin the front sight or are dimples, set screws, and red loctite good enough?

Don't project your disgraceful mechanical skills on to other people. Gunsmiths aren't magic. If you aren't a toollet installing a gas block is incredibly simple

>If you aren't a toollet
Toollet from analogy with manlet, which means you are short in stature and have a small penis?

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I kind of feel like if you have to ask, it's best to defer it to more experienced people.

Can you not use basic hand tools you mouth breathing troglodyte?

For just an A2 sight a nice gunsmith may charge you just $20 or something to slap it on real quick.

Depends on you if it's worth it. Honestly I hate dealing with pins at all so I may be inclined to pay no more than $20 to just have someone else do it.

However if the barrel isn't already drilled for an A2 front sight then I wouldn't even bother with an A2 at all. Get another barrel already done (maybe even with an A2 installed) and call it a day.

Some electrical tape could have prevented that

No, not really.

it's better to do it yourself, even if it causes some minor cosmetic damage, than to internalize learned helplessness

Just a standard A2.

I don’t have the equipment for doing it right. Common sense tells me that the FSB needs precise placement, which requires jigs and fixtures of some sort or the sight will be crooked and as a sufferer of autism that would upset me greatly tbqh.

how the fuck are you supposed to conjure two tapered holes cutting through the a hard steel tube at steep tangent with a hammer and punch

>it's better to do it yourself, even if it causes some minor cosmetic damage, than to internalize learned helplessness
This is the most autistic thing I've read in a long time. Do you think you can build from scratch or fix every little thing in your life? If you say yes, then I say you are not thinking. You live in a house. Can you build one from scratch? Can you fix every kind of plumbing failure that could happen? Can you fix an electrical failure? HVAC failure? Termite damage and infestation? You drive a car. Can you build what you drive from scratch too? Fix any kind of issue that might arise? The computer in front of you? I know that I assembled mine from parts I bought "a la carte," but I absolutely couldn't fix any kind of failure with an individual part, were the monitor to start flickering, the hard drive start to make noise or the graphics card start overheating. I'd have to send the part away to a repair center or else just replace it.

Now I'm not going to deny that jack-of-all-trades handymen exist who can fix a huge variety of the things in their lives. The more important question, which will occur to you when you get to a certain age, is how are you spending your time and on what. I don't doubt the human capacity to learn, but what are you learning and how does that work toward your goals in life? Would the time you spent learning how to service your 2001 Ford F-150 have been better spent, back then, learning how to program, applying to a job at Microsoft or Adobe and gradually working your way up the corporate ladder so you could afford to pay any kind of handyman to fix any of your banal problems for you, without you lifting a finger and then retire at 60? If you instead spent this same amount of time learning how to service your 2005 Toyota Four Runner because you got a new car and then learning HVAC because your heater broke down, then you might not have taken the most profitable, fruitful path in life.

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Like this:

So be it. Id rather turn wrenches my whole life than be an automated typewriter

No one is telling you to stop "turning wrenches." What I'm saying is that you'll realize at some point that no single human being can learn how to fix or build every single thing anyway, and being a grunt worker pays pennies. When you are only earning pennies, it can be very difficult to build a life of your own that doesn't revolve around turning wrenches. What happens when you have kids who want to go to college but can't because you never advanced in your career beyond being a grease monkey? Or even before that, attracting a high status, attractive wife that you might actually enjoy having sex with more than a few times and when you're extremely sex-starved? The only women who think plumbers are attractive are fatshits and women with bad personalities who were rejected by high status men.

i only have a bike, no car. my house doesn’t have ac or heating, only windows that open and a wood burning fireplace and smaller wood heaters in other rooms. i also have a well for water.

so fuck you. you choose to live a certain way, stop projecting

>doesn't own a car
>doesn't have heat or cooling
>doesn't have gas
>doesn't have running water
>but does have high speed internet
them priorities

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well i have running water, well pump pumps water from the well and stores it in tanks, which is cleaned than pumped into pipes for the house. its common outside your safe suburbia, city boy. even in america

>even in america
Where did you read that?

>I did a shit job but at least I didn't pay someone to do it right
I applaud your african-american ingenuity.

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do you think i just sign up for city water outside of town? maybe ill just order a pizza while im at it

>You live in a house. Can you build one from scratch? Can you fix every kind of plumbing failure that could happen? Can you fix an electrical failure? HVAC failure? Termite damage and infestation?
>my house doesn’t have ac or heating, only windows that open and a wood burning fireplace and smaller wood heaters in other rooms. i also have a well for water.
You sound like a liar.

Let's be real here friend, you'd not going to be banging anyone you haven't paid in advance.

>attracting a high status, attractive wife that you might actually enjoy having sex with
Why have sex with her yourself when you can pay a guy who's got a bigger dick to do it for you?

>can't think of a rational reply or a way to part from the conversation civilly
>resorts to personal attacks immediately

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This is the stupidest thing I've read all week

How?

Using "well can you fix small electronic components" as an excuse as to why you can't troubleshoot your truck, or build your own guns is a stupid and weak argument.
I couldn't fix computer hardware if it broke, but there's absolutely no reason I can't spend the time fixing my own shit when it breaks, saving me money and giving me the experience to work on whatever it was again.
Certain things you can't fix because you don't have the tools and they're very specialized jobs, but installing an FSB is piss-easy and so is fixing a car without a stupid ass ECM in it that can only be unlocked by the dealer.
If you aren't self-reliant, you're a fucking idiot.

BUT IF YOU LEARN HOW TO FIX YOUR OWN THINGS YOU'LL NEVER GET A HIGH PAYING JOB AT MICROSOFT

also btw if you showed up at a hiring event at any non-garbage-tier software company with this attitude they'd laugh you out of the fucking building

>Using "well can you fix small electronic components" as an excuse as to why you can't troubleshoot your truck, or build your own guns is a stupid and weak argument.
No, it isn't. It's a good argument derived through logical analogy. Fixing or building a house, an HVAC system, a car, a computer or a gun are all specialty skills. Some are easier to teach yourself than others, but they all do require a certain amount of knowledge and technique that exceeds IKEA furniture assembly by a lot. The fact that it's possible to do all of these repairs incorrrectly, which might result in damage or inoperability, is proof of the skill required to do them.

The argument goes as follows:
1. Pinning a FSB is a task requiring specialty knowledge, skills and tools.
2. A complete beginner has a high likelihood of making a mistake.
3. Making a mistake in the assembly of a gun could be costly to fix, could create a gun that's dangerous to fire or at a minimum be ugly.
4. Gunsmiths exist to do specialty gun assembly tasks properly, for hire.
4. Therefore, the easiest, cheapest and safest alternative is to hire a gunsmith to do the task.

>but there's absolutely no reason I can't spend the time fixing my own shit when it breaks, saving me money and giving me the experience to work on whatever it was again.
I covered this in the second half of my post here: , and again here: .

>Certain things you can't fix because you don't have the tools and they're very specialized jobs, but installing an FSB is piss-easy and so is fixing a car without a stupid ass ECM in it that can only be unlocked by the dealer.
I think you lack self-awareness because you are so familiar with certain gunsmithing tasks. You don't realize that someone installing a gas block or FSB for the first time ever does not have the same skills, experience or tools as you have.

Strawman. You're taking a single example I gave, of many possibilities, and presenting it as if the only alternative to working as a jack-of-all-trades who lives in a shack with no running water, heat, A/C or car is to work at Microsoft. That isn't my argument at all.

I think you have crippling fucking autism
When I built my first AR, I looked up a wikihow article and bought a simple tool kit that you can buy at Academy for like 80 bucks.
Completely from fucking scratch, ended up forgetting my punches for the pins, so I made do with a lockjaw wrench and duct tape to prevent marring the receiver.
Your argument is full of shit, because pinning an FSB by yourself is always going to be cheaper than what a gunsmith wants, and by doing some basic fucking reading you can figure it out yourself.
Sure you can do things incorrectly, but if you're not a fucking moron and can follow PROCEDURAL STEPS then you won't.
Personally though, it sounds like you're a 14 year old who's never had any responsibilities or had to work on anything.

>I think you have crippling fucking autism
Not an argument.

>When I built my first AR
Anecdote. Also, not an argument.

>Your argument is full of shit, because pinning an FSB by yourself is always going to be cheaper than what a gunsmith wants
>Sure you can do things incorrectly, but if you're not a fucking moron and can follow PROCEDURAL STEPS then you won't.
You're being misleading and also ignoring what I've already said. You're citing specific costs while presenting zero evidence, while simultaneously insulting me for not thinking my position through.

Here's a company that will pin an A2 front sight for $75 and a low profile gas block for $45.
rainierarms.com/pin-a2-front-sight/
rainierarms.com/gas-block-pinning/
You do have to ship the barrel to them, but I'm sure there are local gunsmiths who are competitive with this. A drill press, the proper vise block for an A2 sight and a 12 ton press to install the pin are not going to cost less than $75, much less $45, so you have no facts on your side. Remember what I said about you lacking self-awareness?

>dinged the shit out of your low profile gas block

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but: Who gives a shit? it's not functionally damaged in any way, it just makes you look like a fucking troglodyte.

Jesus christ you're all retarded

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OP here, I was just trying to build an A2 style upper since I have three free-floated ARs. I have a spare stripped upper and a 16” barrel and I’m reconsidering all my plans since I priced out the parts I would need and a complete upper from PSA would actually cost less. Not sure what to do now.

>which requires jigs and fixtures of some sort or the sight will be crooked and as a sufferer of autism that would upset me greatly tbqh.
this should upset any user of integrity

>i also have a well for water.
truly based and redpilled.
whiskys for drinking and waters for fighting if the kids didnt know

sick burn!
burned!

i feel your pain user. my boat is that i got a nice 20'' chf barrel that im hesitant to get drilled as ive been using the armalite clamp on A2

heres 2 bolt on options

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Pro tip - don't attempt gun repairs while experiencing a seizure.

I applaud the fact that you'd rather pay to have everything done for you instead of doing it yourself and possibly fucking up on the way. I guess it's the difference between african-american tier and female tier.

the only thing i dont care for is setting them up dead-nuts plumb. really need to just send it in to get drilled. anyone else ever have work done by ar15barrels?

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I hear the clamp on ones are shit and prone to getting tweaked from minor bumps. Makes sense too. I'd rather have set screws.

dunno who put mine in but I have had a hell of a time trying to remove mine.