Defending against a grizzly charge

What would Jow Forums have done in this situation?

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Use a magazine fed semi-auto for starters.

Oh wow you know he could have easily avoided killing the bear by using bear spray. Bro would have been a ok and ran off.

Use a slug first of all, I believe he used birdshot just to scare them not knowing he'd really need it. And I'd carry a semi .308 if I had to deal with a bear.

>bear spray
Nice try Yogi trying to trick people into seasoning themselves for the bear.

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Fucking fpbp

type 81
but Im american so a real ak

>And I'd carry a semi .308 if I had to deal with a bear.
This is my personal weapon for bear defense.

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This, would have mag dumped my FAL until it stopped moving.

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is that a nigger?

I read the news article about it and it says he shot to wound it not to kill, is the court going to fuck him over for that?

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In that situation its just a matter of aiming for center mass and unloading the clipizine. Adrenaline is going to be flowing way too hard to accurately aim.

What was he shooting? Was it a lever action?

Pump action shotgun.

20 rounds of 7.62 real fuckin NATO will take care of any bear

used a better gun

I like how nearly every time a video of someone using a dumb ass pump shotgun gets posted they have a malfunction. Only the dumpster defender was able to run his properly. Also 30 rounds of m193 with a proper non retard config red dot ar and that bear would be dead before it hit the ground.

I can tell is was shot....not slugs. What was the outcome?

die

any rifle round will blast the bear to shit, obviously, specially with a 30 round magazine

>inb4 5.56 is shit

STFU

Keep firing until the bear stops moving. Bears can run faster than your average human. Grizzly bears can reach speeds of upto 35 MPH. You aren't outrunning that. He should've fired retreated, fired until the bear was injured enough to stop moving, retreated, or died where it stood.

It's a fuckin' animal.

iow, it depends on how fucked the polity is.

>also I hate fudds

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minute of bear at that range would be pretty unmissable even just looking down the barrel

not so fast
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Yeah nah, that close the bear wouldve had him in its mouth before even registering spray you numale cuck.

What is this from, I need more fucking info

Why is the cameraman obviously on an elevated position and this guys out in the open trying to gun the bear down?

Why I always carry a sidearm. Trusty old .45 acp while not ideal but enough if needed.

Whip out my twin SAA’s and pump the bear full of .45 Colt lead

nah, didn't stop to pull up his pants

.44 magnum revolver. Any plastic sissy boi taticool rifle won't kill bubba bear.

Shoot it once with .45 ACP
>Muh stoppin powah

Shoot bear with .950 JDJ

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It didnt malfunction, the retard went out with 3 buckshot rounds, and spent 2 of them in the air trying to scare the bears off, the stupid fuck.

No, it's a bear.

>Griz in full charge
>Matter of a few feet away and closing at 30MPH
>Use a spicy squirt gun
Lol faggit
Once a bear shows aggression to humans, it needs to be put down. Not great, but just the way it is. You hippie fags just don’t get it.
Stay out of the woods less you become bear shit

Because they are Canadian liberals, and the cameraman was his bitch wife.

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Ah, Biden defense tactics.

Its this sort of situation that makes me develop a sudden understanding for those bush folk who think an AKM is peak close range defensive weapon. Whether its a bear, moose, or man, a mag dump of FMJ is gonna dig deep enough and do work.

Run.

>Tabearsco

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Little known that bears don't like spicy food, so if you use bear spray, they'll stop eating you and leave a more complete corpse to get eaten by wolves, yotes, and vultures.

Shoot it in a vulnerable area.

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You've earned this (You).

>“The conclusion would be that they were stalked,” he said.
I've had that happen to me a few times. I just film them because they know I carry.

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>I went and loaded the 12g shotgun with 3 birdshot shells (#6 trapload) with the intention of shooting in the air to scare them away

What a fucking retard. Why would you risk your fucking life doing something so fucking retard? Either hide and let your dog die, or load some buckshot and kill the fucking bear. Do people think bears are just little pushovers that will fuck off if you ask them nicely?

Dude is lucky he didn't end up in a Darwin awards compilation.

>the liberal comments
We need a nuclear war or a super virus, cities were a fucking mistake.

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10/10 would stalk with

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this, glock 40 with atomic fmj rounds or heavy hardcast and a 15 round mag

and aim for the face

Any better .308 rifles? I wanna build a good M14 and I don't know if it's a rifle have worth having. Maybe I'll start investing in 7.62 x 39?

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yeah, unless you get a brain shot that's not gonna work

what about a CETME?

plebs die to bears

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>1 round of birdshot
The fuck was he thinking?

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I remember hearing for years that bear spray was far more effective than a gun against bears. Every fucking time this came up, some dipshit would cite the same article and smugly declare that bear spray was king.

Then I found the fucking study the article cited. Their criteria only involved encounters at basically point blank, and weighed encounters with black powder rifles in the 1800s the same as encounters with modern weapons.

It wasn't a bad study, it's just that faggots ignore all the appendix data, and wield the author's credentials and a vague assertion. The most valuable tidbit I took away was that a 12 gauge with slugs kills the fuck out of bears.

Canadians are so powerful, we can stop a charging bear with birdshot.

Stop and think about this: bears are one of the few predators that arguably specialize in sustaining injuries, fighting eachother for extended periods (not short skirmishes where one is ran off) and stealing kills, they can fight to the death, coequally locking their jaws on the other bears throat and thrashing until one of them dies. The "wont risk wounding itself" facet does not fucking exist with some bears and anything proclaiming it does is merely a bleed over description for opportunistic predators and copypaste.

It must be damn good spray to rival the pain of having your throat ripped out and your face skinned over the course of an hour long wrestling match in 30 degree water. Because grizzlies do that shit voluntarily. Rest assured any bear deterred by spray was not attempting an expedient kill, it was acting territorial.

>dangerous game calibers weren't designed for stopping

Oh, ok... not that a 12 gauge can demonstrably stop a grizzly with a lung shot or anything. Better to shoot 10 times. Not advocating for the fudds but practical capacity for bears ends at 10 rounds out of a long gun. If you have time for a long gun you have time to aim because you are waiting for a threat display to turn sour. If you have time to aim its worth taking a kill shot with a powerful round. If you don't have time to aim you use your glock because you aren't walking around with your long gun ready.


>muh shakes
Every near death situation I have been in caused extreme clarity, not fag shakes (those come after). Including having two guns pointed at me and being trapped by rottweiler (cornered behind air conditioner and couldn't leave until police arrived). Hopefully a military user with experience can comment on this.

Glock fortay 15 rnd dump

>Rest assured any bear deterred by spray was not attempting an expedient kill, it was acting territorial.
So what you're saying is, it's effective in 99% of bear encounters?

Not so fast
>Murphy said the bear was 10 feet away when the women first saw it.
D'you think the 21 foot rule applies to bears? Because I'm betting even if they were armed with whatever you reckon is the best anti-bear gun, they still woulda got fucked.

I would have stayed inside my house
why the fuck is this idiot approaching a bear with cubs?

or are you trying to tell me he just happen to be hanging around in his yard with a gun when this bear happened by.

This is ridiculous.
The bears are literally walking away when this idiot decides to run outside and literally chase after them with his shotgun trying to act like some kind of hero in front of his wife and kids.
Very nearly got himself mauled and has left a bear badly wounded, probably dead, and cubs which will starve to death or be killed by another bear or wolves.

If you don't want bears coming in your yard then put up a fucking fence.
Or don't live in the arse end of nowhere on the edge of a forest.

>that impotent rage
Bet your voice is nasal as fuck

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>just use bear spray

Not so fast
>Trainor, a research biologist, was knocked down first, according to Murphy. The woman used bear deterrent spray at some point to no avail. Murphy didn’t know if Johnson, a biological technician, was able to use her bear spray.

>The animal briefly retreated, but it came back, Murphy said.

>“The bear moved between them more than once, and Ellen is certain that she sprayed the bear very thoroughly,” he said.
A gun would’ve had a lot better chance of incapacitating the bear in this situation. The spray literally did nothing to stop the attack considering the bear had time to come back again for more.

His dog was out there or something and he wanted to save it.

How much is that supposedly 1% chance worth to you?

Do you avoid crossing the road because there's a statistically negligible chance a car might hit you?

A gun is a better option for the human, spray is better for bear.

If its me or anyone i care about, i want them using a long gun or at min a 44 or 357.

>Just play ded like in the movies and hope all those layers of fat will protect you.
>Thinking any NEET will still have time to be "tacticool COD shit" instead of going full fumble and blur.

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it's a damn bear, not a battleship Tirpitz

No, but I make sure to look before I cross.

Use an AK with a good and proper 40 round mag.

What are those theoretical 99% bears getting murked by trigger happy cowards worth to you?

>left a bear badly wounded
It was birdshot that mostly missed you turbofaggot. The bear ran off fine, and the guy couldnt even find any blood.

did that fucking faggot drop his gun?

The only answer. Saving this video for when a fudd asks why anyone needs more than 5 rounds.

Stop shilling your videos faggot.

Awww hes like a giant puppy

Build a lightweight ar10, you can get one to come in below 7lbs easy and that would make packing innawoods a lot easier

>Bear spray is better than nothing
>lives in montana and hikes without a long gun
>all the comments praising him and making spongebob memes
>nobody is calling this guy a retard
>retard didn't learn anything
I haven't been so frustrated clicking a link in a while.

No I look both ways to negate that chance. Just like a gun negates the slim chance of bear spray not working. Be less stupid next time, kid.

He had a magnum revolver as a sidearm, he neglected to mention it right after, 3 months later he said he "Lost it during the struggle", 6 months later he was saying he "made a conscious decision to not use it, and walked out with it", now he says bear spray is what saved his life despite it failing twice.

Guys a total NPC, or being bullied by liberals around him to say these things.

Jesus fucking christ, what a goddamn faggot. I wish you hadnt told me that.

Still makes me mad when the bear spray shill uses todd orr as a quote, when the situation contradicts everything about bear spray.

the commenters are fucking leafs
can we nuke canada too?

Wait that fucking retard actually had a gun too? I remember seeing this when it originally happened and he never even mentioned that he was carrying. God what a fucking disabled faggot, I hope he gets eaten by a bear next time.

Nigga, do you just run across the street without looking?

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>trigger happy coward
>300lb animal that could kill you in seconds
I really hope this is bait and you aren't just actually this fucking disabled.

If you're gonna build a lightweight rifle, why not throw together a .50 Beowulf carbine?
>almost 4,000J out of an 18" barrel

fourgot pick

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Black Bears are like giant puppys
.....most of the time
Brown Bears.... not so much.

Because 458 Socom has more rifle projectiles available.

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>Black Bears are like giant puppys
Many more people die from Black bears, even adjusted proportionally.