What exactly the issue towards having female soldiers? >these two women passed Ranger school with the same standards as those applied to men (as per media and the women themselves) >if units with women are less effective or suffer more casualties, it will prove the critics right, and the participation of women can be scaled back >there are women in this country who are willing to leave behind an easy life and die for their country, there's nothing wrong with giving them a chance >women have fought in modern conflicts due to exigent circumstances (Algerian war, Afghan civil war, YPG) >the women expressing the desire for combat roles usually come from military families instead of some yuppie commune
I don't get why people are so dead against women participating.
The ENTIRE point of war is to protect your lands, future, women, and children. Seems very counter-intuitive to put some of societies most valued persons on the the front lines in the most danger.
Look at evacuation plans its always "Women and Children first" because they are what allows society to continue. Its literally shooting yourself in the foot to put women in the positions of most danger
Samuel Thomas
Isn't it a little hyperbolic to assume that having women in combat roles would cause a demographic crisis?
James Carter
the rate of reproduction is limited by surviving females. one man can impregnate several women a day, but a woman takes 9 months to produce a child. women are also normally responsible for teaching children culture, something men usually neglect to do, or do poorly until they're dealing with much older children.
if your women die your ethnic group disappears and your culture is weakened or destroyed. in a losing war, you don't want to field your women, and if you ever fielded them, you regret it. without women, your country as it was once was will never exist again. women are the single most valuable resource for any country that has any pride in itself and in the diversity of human civilization, and any woman on the battlefield has been marked as being as worthless as the least educated, least civilzied man.
Parker Sanders
If you're a modern westerner and you want 50/50 or female-biased demographics everywhere for the sake of being different from your dad, yes.
Thomas Cox
They passed with same standards as men only after they dropped standards for men. Same as with crayon eater infantry.
>I don't get why people are so dead against women participating. Because huge majority of women aren't conductive to the military environment and fundamentally ruin the team work for everyone. Even in supply units. Only place where women should be present in military is far behind lines in medical corps. Minority of women that are actually suitable for military is too small to be worth ruining everything to integrate 'em.
Isaac Campbell
reminder that those women are lesbians and would'nt have had any children in the first place
Christian Lopez
>the women in this picture were allowed to watch the ranger course before participating >the women in this picture did not have to complete parts of the course >the women in this picture were allowed to retry the course multiple times None of this is allows for the men yet somehow the standards weren’t lowered.
Brody Howard
>I don't get why people are so dead against women participating. Because they are garbage soldiers and a detriment to the morale and esprit de corps of any unit they are in.
Anthony Butler
99% of women cannot compete with the average man physically. Sure, the 1% that can should be allowed in, but the dumbing down of standards is retarded.
I teach martial arts. As a bit of anecdotal evidence my female students are severely lacking in aggression and drive when it comes to sparring. Situations where a man will dig in and fight through, or smell blood and go for the finish, they don’t act or worse retreat. Men will fight a submission until they’re injured, women will tap as soon as it hurts. Magnify this into what I can only imagine are severely stressful environments in real combat and I can’t see women being a worthwhile asset.
Jordan Foster
>the women in this picture did not have to complete parts of the course Which ones?
Carson Davis
>Sure, the 1% that can should be allowed in No.
Jordan Miller
Why not?
Stick them in their own unit and let them get on with it, assuming you can find enough of them.
Dylan Barnes
>Stick them in their own unit Segregated troops don't work because of the magnification of incompetence of the interior populations, and that's why they no longer exist.
A woman only infantry would be a boondoggle fit only for an 80's comedy. I can picture a Stripes remake with an all-girl cast. They did it for Ghostbusters!
Can we ethnically segregate white nationalities into their own battalions? Specifically the Irish? I'm just curious to hear what variation on "we're drunk and gonna kick your ass" they'd come up with in the current year.
Asher Martin
You gave me a boner. No homo.
Wyatt Turner
So what do you do with all the brown units?
Lincoln Phillips
Look at this whiteknight
Ryan Reyes
I see it as very uncomplicated. Jow Forumss population which is 100% men if you include the men playing woman, wants to be soldiers. Seeing women becoming soldiers makes them feel inferior and therefore upset. It's an inferiority complex. Should enough fit and muscled women come forward to score better than a similar group of men it would only reinforce the inferiority complex. And that is the issue. Easy peasy. Nobody wants their moms and gfs to be better than themselves in anything unless it is stuff it is comfier to leave to the women. Like housework.
Landon Flores
Irish average IQ is sub 100. They are called potato niggers because they are literally stupid as niggers.
William Ward
>we’re out of booze and angry so we’ll kick your ass
Ryder Fisher
Everyone needs transportation and janitorial services.
Austin Long
You really think that if it showed that women in the military cause disorder they would roll it back? You're out of your mind we already know this.
Zachary Hughes
>these two women passed Ranger school with the same standards as those applied to men (as per media and the women themselves)
I'm not sure I'd want to have logistics depend on those people.
Charles Cox
>these two women passed Ranger school with the same standards as those applied to men (as per media and the women themselves) It's a huge joke. The military had just lowered the men physical standards before that.
Nathan Murphy
Nope, that's why I said transportation, not logistics. They're well versed in moving lots of people. Planning and organizing? Not so much
This is a perfect example of how, even with the proper motivation, women are just not suitable for combat. A basic bitch march and she gets a hip fracture out of it.
>Americans No. Women's bodies suffer vastly more stress fractures in military service and that's in the current status quo of them serving mainly in non-combat roles.
Nicholas Jones
>these two women passed Ranger school This story has been proven false multiple times. They were washed back numerous times and forced through because government officials notified the school ahead of time that they would be present for graduation and expected to see the females graduate.
>One of those women left the military almost immediately after and now gives “leadership seminars” >she had been in the army for like two years Fuck those chicks and fuck OP’s ass
Owen Smith
Anyone have the cap from the ranger about these two cunts and thier ranger class? About having to constantly redue shit, and cut shit from the class and graduating early so the president could attend?
Elijah Adams
Off the top of my head, reasons against >men are in general wired to protect women >women are not in general wired for combat >women are in general weaker and less physically fit >when captured women will be subjected to worse fates which the public will treat differently than with men >women have extra sanitary requirements and are a further burden on supply and logistics than men >women risk permanent physical harm from extreme exertion (women rendered infertile from stress on abdomen and hip after carrying heavy loads for example) >women potentially impact morale of troops - men can't be men around women >women in general lack aggressive traits which suit combat Yes yes obviously women have fought in virtually all conflicts in history. But placing a woman in an infantry section means removing a man. >if units with women are less effective or suffer more casualties, it will prove the critics right, and the participation of women can be scaled back You mean, if MORE MEN DIE then we can say "oh woopsie". Fuck you.
Carson Morgan
That guy with the ak is a stone cold badass, didnt even flinch.
Julian Ward
Shes fucking smiling after they helped her over that. What the fuck.
Brody Wood
end of the first world war every fourth german man between 18 and 35 was dead, same result in other countries. then all over again in ww2. After wars there's a big surplus of boys compared to girls born. even in peacetime for 100 girls born there's 105 boys born. and guess who evens out the losses by giving birth - women. men are much easier replaced from a perspective of demographics.
Juan Hughes
>oh shit! >its a cameraman! >hes gonna rape me >AND film it >... >EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Adam James
Why did she curve her spine afterwards as if she is an anti-semitic cartoon character?
Gavin Campbell
>if units with women are less effective or suffer more casualties, it will prove the critics right, and the participation of women can be scaled back this would be ok if you were running a company and you were risking some profits or losses the military can't afford to be so blithe about the policies that it puts in place, risking the lives of your soldiers for some experiment is not going to help
Because you can't possibly hold women to the same physical standards as men unless you're trying to murder them, and so you inevitably have a situation where the standards must be heavily reduced in order to allow women a chance of passing.
Maybe for you lol most of Jow Forums understand there is an unalterable natural order and that men where ordained to carry out certain duties and women were ordained to carry out certain duties. Being in violation of the natural order creates chaos, which is always unprofitable.
Zachary Howard
not voluntarily, but that is of little consequence
Leo Gomez
You know, I've yet to see anyone make a compelling case for exactly why paying the same wages to someone just scraping by with assistance is somehow preferable.
Jose Cooper
Was the proportion of men who passed the test significantly increased during this time, if not, I'd take this with a grain of salt
That just makes me angry as fuck. Jesus. And I'm fucking OP.
Zachary Anderson
The thing to remember is that, while there are women who theoretically can hold their own in training and combat, they are the exception rather than the rule. The same standards should apply for everyone. Equal opportunity, equal rights, equal fights. No special treatment. That said, any country that sends its wives, mothers, and daughters to war is severely lacking in men.
Daniel Gutierrez
In laymans terms, its hard to fight a war when everyone wants to fuck PFC judy
David Watson
>PFC Judy Why when PFC Kechum is right here, id have to walk all the way over to that fox hole, exposing my turgid member to the enemy to fuck judy.
Jaxon Mitchell
>ranger school is rasp Id say let it happen They're just one instance of a woman getting brutally murked (or more likely getting someone else killed) away the public turning massively against women in combat arms
>when captured women will be subjected to worse fates which the public will treat differently than with men Dunno. Picture related. They sent delta force, green berets, SEALs, USAF pararescue and rangers to rescue her from hospital. Three 'muhreen battalions staged a diversionary attack, one of those battalions was from a different division. Given how support heavy special operations units are and elements of two different marine divisions being involved, operation easily two or three brigade equivalents of troops in total, before air assets come in picture. I doubt that leadership would have allocated that kind of resources to rescue male POW's. There is also the question did units involved have anything more important to do for whatever time they used for that rescue op.
>all that propoganda bs after the rescue Fuck id hate to be that chick, branded a liar for life because you went along with the lies because the brass said its whats best for the country.
Luke Perry
It was a staged thing. She wasn't a hostage at the hospital
>lifting a man for a photo op doesnt break hips >neither of them are wearing rucksacks. >this retard thinks it proves anything Oh yes goyim tell me how womyn are stronk.
Brandon Young
Every photo you like is the real thing. Every photo you don't like can't possibly be the real thing. How simple your world must be.
I see you forgot the huge amount of leniency that no one in the Rangers but them ever had.
Jordan Foster
>these two women passed Ranger school with the same standards as those applied to men No, they did not. First, they got to observe a class. Second, they were given multiple opportunities to pass difficult exams. Third, they were issued a lighter pack. Fourth, the instructors were under the gun to do everything they could to ensure they could pass. All of this means they had a significant advantage in passing than had ever been afforded anyone ever before.
Levi Mitchell
>what is propaganda for 500 Also where are their guns? Maybe your other photos were real but the first is definitely a photo shoot.
Luis Smith
Reminds me of high school
Jaxon Long
Guns? Can do! Here with Mazar-el-Sharif in the background.
I have a legitimate source that knows the YPJ is a complete fraud. They set up the all female unit for propaganda. They keep the YPJ separated from the rest like nuns or something and bring them out when it's a good time to film them like movie props.
Anthony Lopez
Not only that but the Jegertroppen are a literal meme group for pictures. Don’t know why that guy has such a hard on for them.
This. We've Never been invaded in our lifetimes. We have mostly been an invading force. There are no foreign troops at our borders.
People who have a problem with women in the military are mostly spergs. It doesn't matter in the big picture for what our military functions for.
Elijah Reyes
An entire third of the YPG/YPJ forces are female. That's a lot just for a photo op. Also they have taken enough combat losses to wipe off the lip gloss.
Gabriel Robinson
What about Kurd female casualties fighting ISIS and Turks?
>a legitimate source details?
Elijah Phillips
What about all those videos of female Kurds being executed by Turks?
Connor Lewis
Someone in Syria that has seen them with the SDF or should I say not with the SDF most of the time. The female units were kept hidden away.
Easton Collins
>The ENTIRE point of war is to protect your lands, future, women, and children. >"Women and Children first" This isn't Nepal, we have plenty of housewife childbearer women that a few can die in war and do other traditionally "mens" work if they want to.
