Self Defense in Texas: 22LR Single Shot Beats AR15 & .40 Cal

Incapacitating them: low
Killing them: about as high as getting struck by a .223. Makes the same hole.

>makes about the same hole
>what is ballistics

What does ballistics do there? Both will sufficiently penetrate (unless the attacker wears a leather jacket on a denim jacket on 4 shirts), both will tumble and make a .22 hole.
If you think a .223 will do so much hydrostatic shock that there will be a difference, than you are mistaken.

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If I stab a guy with a knife and stab another guy with the knife only faster. Will it do more damage?

About 60% according to one study.
You clearly have no fucking idea what you're talking about.

>guise a 900fps 40gr round is just as good as a 3100fps 55gr duh that's just physics

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Incredibly you have to place your shots on the target instead of his pickup

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Why is the Aluminium ball not deformed? If it is the same material then both objects should have deformation.

I knew the punchline was coming but I lost hard anyway.

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Thats not the same aluminium ball genius, thats a different one to show the size comparison

Not the same projectile. It's just there for comparison.

And if you shoot a dude in the chest with a .380 ACP and a .338 Lapua the 380 will do more damage because it's larger in diameter

Obviously. 380 is more than 338

>get btfo by drunk "one click one spic" redneck
>W-WE WUZ AZTECS
Another page in the book of beaner delusions of grandeur btfo by aryan skill.

Honestly how the fuck do you hit someone square in the chest under these conditions? Someone is unloading his AR and pistol on you and you have your trusty ol' reliable plinking gun with one fucking shot and you know it's just this one .22 between you and certain death.
Your hand tremors must be measurable by geologists 1000 miles away.

>thinking shot placement is important makes you a fudd
weeeeeeeew fuckin laddy

How dare you actually try to prove your point by showing actual damage in flesh. On this board we rely strictly on dank memes and muzzle energy calculators for evidence.

Only God knows how many thousands of rounds that redneck has out through that .22 plinking in his backyard.

Who do you think buys up all the .22? That man probably shot over a million rounds through that thing

Nah youve never dealt with drunk meaxocans I can tell.
All of his shots were probably flying 10 feet over his head and he most likely crouched, took aim and fired a single well aimed shot.
MLG420 style m8.

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Nice pic but that's not an accurate representation of what happens when space debris hits a spacecraft. A 50 cal ball at 15000 mph doesn't have the same energy in space that it does on earth.

At the range handling my 10/22, shouldering it, firing off a few shots... it's so easy and accurate and stress free. It's a lot easier and quicker to get rounds and successive rounds on target with my 10/22 than my AR (both have similar irons) and I can literally afford to shoot it all I want. Sometimes I feel like I should be using it as a home defense gun over my AR-15 or Mossberg 500.

I am pretty confident 22LR out of a rifle will consistently dispatch people.

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>Not using 62 grain Lake City green tip steel core penetrators

I shiggy my diggies, please Jow Forums tell me you don't do this

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yeah, it has far more energy in space since the actual collision speed will be far more than 7 km/s

Wouldn't it be fucking funny if this single event changed gun culture completely and in 5 years we will be sitting here shitting at people who feel they need anything bigger than a .22?

yeah, except no to everything you just said.

are you retarded? how can a hypervelocity projectile have less energy in space than on earth?

>what it inertia
go google some stuff and come back

...user, if two objects in space collide their relative velocities are going to combine
unless you're trying to pull some retarded "hurr imparted energy" shit you're simply fucking wrong

Holy fuck, pure luck. Shows that it doesn’t matter how many rounds you have in a magazine if you can’t shoot for shit

Unironically agree, I love my 10/22 takedown with the Magpul backpacker stock for this reason, keep it right by my bed to give the wife with a CZ 75 on my nightstand.

If a 40grain 900fps bullet is lethal in one hit, is your target more dead if you use a larger faster round?

Who knew the big iron that fell Texas red was a .22

apparently it doesnt mean what you think it means

That isn't what he said at all you retard.

Just as dead is just as good.

No one yet has mentioned mindset, mindset is critical. Why did Manuel have two guns and use them both? Why did he fire so many rounds and continue to fire when the rounds were not having an effect? Well what effect was he going for anyway?

It's the difference between walking into a "fight", posturing, flexing, licking your lips, yelling stuff (you fucked up now! I don't mess around!), taking your shirt off, throwing flashing feints and trying to land slaps versus getting into an altercation and just keeping your hands up to defend yourself and waiting for an opening to attempt a few well executed strikes.

Why did Dakota think he stood a chance in a gunfight with a single round on him against someone with an AR and a handgun? I don't think Dakota had the mindset to be in a gunfight, I think he had the mindset that he was just going to kill that guy who was shooting at him.

Almost all seismologists are geophysicists, not geologists.

Thankfully, I have a single shot .22 lr to defend my self... Look for the hoseclamp lol

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No the most important question is why did he only have a 15 round magazine in Texas? This man is such a bad shot he needs a 60 round drum mag, minimum. He might want to look into something belt fed. Just be sheer random chance he might land one shot if he fires 1,000.

>.22 short is just as good as 50bmg because you technically could kill an elephant with either one. That's why every elephant hunter should use .22 short
This is the person you're being right now. Besides which, nobody brought up dead or deader until your retarded ass decided he couldn't win the last point and decided to try to move the goalposts. What was being discussed was an user claiming that a .223 would "make just the same size hole as a .22 because they're the same diameter". Dead or deader was never a part of it. You aren't just a stupid nigger, you're a stupid double nigger.

Intermediate rifles calibers traveling at super high speeds, like 5.56, cause major permanent cavities. Handguns are the ones that just "poke holes" in people.

There is a reason that in America the majority of people shot by a Handgun live, while the majority shot by a rifle die.

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You could fire a rifle round the size of the planet. It would still be just as effective at killing on person as a .22 lr round. It takes the same number of rounds from either gun to kill one single person. The diameter is as irrelevant as the grain count. Neither matter except on paper. The target is dead either way.

SPOILERS: A 22 rifle is not a handgun.

The underlying premise of your argument is that in practice a planet sized rifle round and a .22lr bullet are just as likely to kill somebody. This is such a brain dead claim that it frankly doesn't even warrant rebuttal.

Never the less it is true. Whether you're killed by a 22 or a planet sized hunk of lead you are still dead. A mouse killed by a tiger is just as dead as a mouse killed by a house cat.

I dunno why you're bothering to respond to this user so much, he's right. If you're dead either way, what does it matter?

My ancestors are smiling at me, imperials
Can you say the same?

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>practically speaking its just as easy to kill somebody with a weapon more powerful than the worlds combined nuclear stockpiles as it is with a .22lr bullet
>that's why they're equal weapons
Oooooooooooook.

It's super easy to kill someone with a .22lr. You can do it with just one shot. This guy in TX didn't even bother to bring a second round in his truck. He only needed the one.

Didn't say they were equal weapons, just they both result in a dead person, that makes total sense. I don't understand why you fail to comprehend that.

You poach a lot of deer with a 22.

Maybe try rereading the comment train then. popping into a comment chain about the relative effectiveness of two wildly different cartridges in terms of power and saying "but if your dead your dead" like it makes them equal makes you a retarded double nigger. because killing something reliably, let alone stopping it reliably, with one of those rounds is waaaaaay easier and more forgiving than with the other.

Maybe you should reread the thread. It was always about effectiveness at killing since the OP's post.

>.22 makes just the same wounds as .223
>they're just as effective for self defense as each other
Aaaaand i'm done beating my head against this particular wall. if you really can't understand why that's retarded then seek help.

You really are dumb aren't you? OP said a 22 killed a man when a .233 (same caliber) couldn't. He's right. There's a reason the .22lr is the most deadly round in America. Kills everything from bears to small game and everything in between. Dead is dead and those are the facts. If you think dead isn't dead because the guy was killed by a .22lr then boy are you one special kind of stupid.

I like how multiple people are responding to you telling you how wrong you are but your dumb ass just doesn't get it.

>the virgin "I'm gonna kill you" vs. the Chad "I doubt it"

This bait is so fucking weak. Go to bed kid

3 hours later and that's what you came up with?

>single shot .22lr
>look for the hoseclamp

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>flying 10 feet over his head

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the ball is aluminum not really comparable to what we conventionally consider .50 cal, but that's also striking aluminum

Nice. Left my mom with the same rifle when my dad traveled for work

Imagine being this stupid

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it depends, if it in geostationary orbit above the earth, or has an even faster orbital period then it has more energy, because it would be traveling at much higher

M855 is trash for home defense. Go pick up a box of some soft nose hunting rounds or some Vmax

Guy takes down with one shot of .22 and you're in the thread saying any .223 is "trash"

BIG THINK

or use 300blk because it has more advantage under 100yds

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retard

>similar diameter round makes the same hole
I can smell the total lack of guns from here.

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That's because .22 will bounce around inside the guy.

>300blk
>""""""""""advantage""""""""""

Was kennedy shot with a .22?

>If you think a .223 will do so much hydrostatic shock that there will be a difference, than you are mistaken.
Okay, retard.

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and the exit

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You have fudds confused with something else. Fudds think 45 is king because they don't make a 46