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Why dosent Jow Forums want to operate with women
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worse version of men, only value is holes
(but seriously: weaker, more emotional, more prone to injury, need special hygiene considerations, can become pregnant, etc.)
women are great for espionage and HUMINT but lack the upper body strength and general physique necessary to serve effectively in combat roles.
Wouldn't mind it at all as long as there held to the same fitness and training standards.
t. Former Marine who saw male Marines denied reenlistment for being too fat while fat females got promoted in an MOS that involves no physical labor.
I'd only operate with gun loving bimbos.
>letting women out of the house
Do you want civilization to be destroyed?
Simple economics
Maintaining a pair of boots on the ground costs X
For my X I can either have the capabilities of a male of female
I do not see an operating role where a female is more valuable than a male.
Perhaps in Civil Affairs for propoganda such as all hot (((IDF))) sloots we see. But even in that role, their value is still based on the fact they have holes to fuck
>Hot IDF
that webm is disgusting
So was your mom, but that didn't stop your dad
Take this however you want, but this is the answer
>he considers women an equal...
Because women are annoying. I've gone in the woods shootings with women before. 10 minutes after getting into the woods they wanna go home. "BAWW MY CELLPHONE DOESN'T GET SERVICE OUT HERE HOW WILL I POST SELFIES?!" They can't shoot worth shit, they ignore any advice you give them, they endlessly complain about how something is too heavy or something hurts, they are immune to having fun, they get scared easily over nothing, and any small injury instantly sends them into "HOLY SHIT AM I GOING TO FUCKING DIE?!" mode even if it's a little scratch. Don't ever hang out with women or go shooting with them. They are a total fucking drag.
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>her dark brown eyes
>That big nose
Who cares if she fucked a nigger, she's a jewess.
If and only if they can keep up with the current male standards there shouldnt be any reason for them to get fucked up and or die from some fatfuck politician sending them into the shit to line his cumcrusted pockets.
those are for breeding.
Because Jow Forums is full of healthy, fertile men that would knock her up after a month of coexisting.
Nogunz
Significant morale drop within units for having to operate with someone whose performance is inferior but who's somehow more privileged than you are
Extremely high standards, especially when it comes to hygiene
Often will require other people to carry their standard issue gear for them
Emotional and unreliable in stressful situations, you're not sure if they'll have your back when the shit hits the fan or if they'll just start crying for home
Significant morale drop when your girlfriend gets shot in a firefight
Gets pregnant a week into the deployment because she doesn't like it anymore and all of a sudden your unit is short one man
Can ruin anyone's life with a single baseless allegation if you piss her off
Will probably expect to be treated as a paragon of perfection because she managed to make standards that are way below your own
Because I don't want to die
>expecting incels to actually interact and even engage in combat with women
I'd operate with a woman. As soon as they're able to without complaining their bag is too heavy or we're walking too far.
Imagine all the separate barracks and/or false sexual harassment charges.
>couldn't shoulder a rifle if she wanted to
>more plastic jammed inside her than a VW
>t. incel chadbros
Your broad-sweeping generalisations aren't necessarily WRONG, but those women who never progressed past sophomore year aren't the ones enlisting. Also it's your own goddamn fault for only associating with vapid, compulsive cunts who only know how to bumble through each day checking how they "feel" every thirty minutes and letting that dictate their behavior. You know, the moderately "hot" ones that don't give a shit about enriching their brains, only their skin?
I honestly think women are well suited to a number of different roles that are still super vital and dangerous. There are a lot of female medivac personnel, both pilots and nurses. Women are also used for intelligence work a lot, interrogation, assassination, seduction etc. And honestly I think women would even be able to be front line soldiers, so long as they were they're own special unit that moved and operated separate from the general male force. They could be snipers for instance or gunners on transport. You probably would even be able to fashion a sort of special forces outfit around them where they would be transported in for extra intelligence and sniping over a week long mission. And actually now that I think about it they could also be used defensively for guarding bases. They would have access to tampons if they needed them and would have enough personnel and low risk to mitigate the problems that would arise from having them in your front line mixed with the rest of the forces.
The two major drawbacks I see from having them in front line combat roles aside from the lol menstruation and lol they aren't giants are mostly based on morale. I think having women serving along with the men could very potentially effect the men psychologically in a number ways. The first and foremost would be attraction, which would be a big issue if men fell in love with the women and acted differently or were unfocused, and especially if the women were killed in combat. The natural hormonal things that happen between men and women could very easily lead to divisions and jealousy among the men. And lastly and most importantly with all of these things put together you have the issue of rape, which not only would potentially ruin the female's combat effectiveness but also lead to divisions among the men and potentially murder as other men tried to avenge the woman.
All in all I think it's totally doable, and I think a lot of women have a great capacity for ruthlessness that most incels don't like admitting to. And I think it could be utilized. Though also I think they're more suited for intelligence work and clandestine operations
These WIM threads are like a circle jerk for gay men. I just want to see sensibly dressed women with guns.
Being in the military is a fucking job. Any job you have in life will have woman arond If you can't taking being around women try booking a gay cruise. Yep still going to be women working there probably.
Men and women are NOT created equal. Either physically, or mentally. And there's nothing wrong with that. Recognising the differences and using individuals in roles best suited for them makes a more cohesive unit. I remember watching David Goggins on Joe Rogan talking about Seal training and his comments about the few number of blacks that had passed Seal training because most can't swim and "negative buoyancy". To which is comment was something along the lines of "it's real, get fucking over it". That's recognising the difference between elite men of different races and their physical characteristics. There's no pandering to social justice there.
The SRR is one of the Special Forces regiments in the UK that uses female operatives. Because the roles women fill as reconnaissance operatives are entirely different to front line soldiering. The Norwegians created the Jegertroppen. An all female reconnaissance regiment. These women would never meet the grade to pass male standardised testing for a special forces role, so they created a new standard of testing to recruit the best of the females. And they work with other females, unless, like the regiments that preceded SRR in Northern Ireland, they're attached to another Special Forces unit.
On the front line, you want to know that the person next to you can carry or drag you out of the line of fire if needed. Also, it comes to the point of co-workers being stuck together for months at a time. Can they remain professional and unattached? Start love triangles and shit like that, it's going to upset the balance of the unit. We know there are women who've got knocked up before deployments just to avoid being deployed... what then? It's what you've trained for and now you're a woman down...
I'm not against it.. I'm just not convinced they've thought about everything and pushed it through as quickly as possible to be seen to be progressive.
I prefer living to being rejected and having to rape an armed colleague in the field.
>posting IDF whores
Because i am pretty sure that my current female battle buddy is gonna get me killed.
an example of female ruthlessness
You don't put that which you aim to protect on the firing line.
And for other practical reasons as well, obviously.
i volunteered to join kurdish ypg in syria in 2015, and spent 4 months straight at the frontlines in 3 different platoons, all of them mixed, half girls/women, half guys. gotta say the female kurds were the better soldiers. not only were they the nicer ones to hang around with as they were generally more educated/intelligent, which made it easier to communicate with little common language, but they were also way more responsible. depending on the military situation we had to do guardshifts every night, from 1 hour per night up to 8. a lot of the guys were fucking around, being loud, not getting up for their shift, shit like that. the ladies were reliable replacement, they always got up on time.
ofc not the general rule, i also saw some gals fuck up in combat, like shooting over a wall straight into a higher wall behind that because she didn't care to check. or the whole platoon running low on water, because some bitch used the last bottles to wash her fucking hair. and also some guys who did stuff they'd be awarded a silver star for in the us army. but in general, the girls were the better soldiers. maybe not the better fighters, but the better soldiers.
funny sidefact, the best fighters were the underage ones. we had a 14yo boy in our platoon who was a fucking beast, as soon as there were shots fired and he made out the enemy position, he charged like a badger to erase them. funny guy, had every one of his mags decorated with some bling bling shit he found left behind by some little girls and grabbed every tracer round he could find to load his mags with. not like every 5th round a tracer, more like making it look like a fucking lasergun when he started shooting.
tl;dr: women who are free from the influence of western feminism, either direct or indirect, are actually good soldiers.
t. fantasist.
t. jellybean basementdweller
Terrorist.
>fighting isis is terrorism
>fighting for sand niggers regardless of who they are is terrorism.
Sand niggers should be left to kill themselves off. And take the Kykes with them. Whole region should be turned into a glass parking lot.
From personal experience in the military:
Their training is leagues easier than a male’s.
They are the first to cry “hazing” during hard training.
They are always given light duty/medical exemptions from PT.
They get pregnant real easy.
They can’t shoot for shit.
They whore around and cause problems in the platoon.
They get promoted easier and cause animosity from men in the unit.
Even the strongest ones (lesbians) can’t carry a man and his gear out of the line of fire.
The entire gender is renowned for having no in-group loyalty whatsoever and being impossibly shallow and horny to the point of switching sides if the other army has taller men with bigger chins, even if they're dumber and would treat them like shit. Women's subculture in every nation and language is heavily focused on vanity and determining human worth through looks.
I would only operate with ugly lesbos.
Salty turkniggers always crawl out of their holes to insult based kurds.
Oh nonononono
Hahahahahaha
>fighting for commies
>then bragging about it
just when I thought western men couldn’t get more beta cucked for a wet hole
Right, because joining a militia to actually fight terrorists face to face is like the definition of being beta. Just because some weird SJW mutt posts a pic of himself posing with their flag doesn't mean it's not a fucking Jow Forums dream to actually go there and fight.
They arent in the US?
Based 14-year old, would operate with
i mean i'm glad you did your civic duty to remove kebab and all but if you got hit and left to bleed out in some shithole country for some brown commies would have been a waste, hopefully you dumped your seed into as many arab qt's as possible since there is no better way to win a war than to breed the subhuman filth out of existence
worked to pacify germany, it will work for shithole sandboxes.
he's actually dead by now, fell last year in the battle for Raqqa.
another weird story, i found out via facebook. some dude i got on my friendslist posted a picture of a young guy, stating that he fell in the tough CQC that went down in that battle. i didn't recognize him but had the strong feeling to know him, untill i realized it's actually that boy, Berxwedan. He just aged 3 years, which make a big difference in looks if you go from 14 to 17. He grew older and looked much more manly. Dude basically spent his whole life in that war.
And it's not a sad "oh that poor childsoldier" story, i know that. He fucking loved the fighting.
Thats cool and sad at the same time.
You'd think this, but you're still wrong.
Even essays written by female soldiers agree.
this doesn't even begin to cover it
>special unit that moved and operated separate from the general male force.
as long as it's not coed / combined arms I can see it "sort of" maybe working
this is some shit you'd read in an anime
no REAL army has such pathetic fucking behavior
>not like every 5th round a tracer, more like making it look like a fucking lasergun when he started shooting.
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>Are we really ready to see our daughters gang raped, tortured and decapitated live on the Internet by Isil fighters? Because that is exactly what will happen if a female front line soldier is captured in Syria. For terrorist or extremist organisations, any press is ‘good’ in their warped world view - and the more gruesome, disturbing and inhumane the better. A captured female soldier would be gold dust for their global radicalisation campaign.
why cant this happen? some people would jerk off to it
they're not an army, they're a militia. and a very effective one at that. those guys don't get months of diverse and specialized training, normal training is 8 days. you get issued 2 pairs of fatigues, a chinese chest rig, a rifle and 5 mags, and bam, you're right at the frontline. at least that's how it was back in 2015, meanwhile they got a lot of nice light and heavy gear from trump as i hear. but back then, everything else but the before mentioned you had to literally fight for. ISIS had a lot of nice stuff, M4s, body armour, NVG and thermals, all kinds of shit you could loot from them.
The point is, there's no big army structure making sure only professionals get into combat. Everyone does, and the professionals are born in the storm of steel, to express it with Jünger's words. They don't get paid, all of them are volunteers for the cause of the Kurdish people. They deserve a lot of respect, that few shitheads among them included.
Thanks for some inside stories user. Why did you join - Kurdish ancestry or just eager to fight?
Good feet
>why dosent
OP is too high IQ for me.
All I'm hearing here is somebody using people who aren't professional soldiers to justify why women can be professional soldiers.
because women are unstable psychotic bags of hormones, if you want to be helpful slip on a gstring and stockings, wax your cunt and while giving a careful tongue ball washing to enemy staff officers ask them why the look tired, either that or breed soldiers and make sandwitches. Its what you are designed for
ALSO TITS OR GTFO
I uh have a history of sleeping with female coworkers. I grew up doing heavy labor, was never prepared for this. Bad for cohesion.
How bullet resistant are those implants?
>A pic from several yrs ago
You need to post something current, you lying faggot.
ITT, fat "patriotic" Jow Forumsommandos argue with beta zoomers about female soldiers.
never change Jow Forums.
>mfw no operator gf
How fucking slow are you to be stabbed by a woman
Why doesn't Jennifer Lawrence get roles anymore?
>normal training is 8 days
Sounds like a recipe for success...
Why are 300 Pakistani women serving in the IDF?
But did you get laid?
>Muh soviet female snipers
Ok, let me explain a few important facts for you.
>Served only a small role, and not over the full duration of the war.
>about 2000 were active among ALL soviet military forces
>About 500 survived DESPITE the fact that most female snipers were deliberately shielded from intensive combat.
Further on your ideas of the effects, sure, attraction, but I don't think it's gonna be "falling in love" or whatever, just the desire to stick a dick in someone. Second on that issue, it's not going to be rape that's the problem, it's going to be the natural tendency of women to gossip and stir shit. We can't have a cohesive combat unit when these shitstains who're immune to proper disciplinary action are stirring social discord. Sure, we've made the military that much more expensive and that much less effective, but at least we weren't sexist.
It's a meme at best.
My verdict is: STAFF DUTY.
I sentence you to stop making this thread every week.
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How do you fight effectively without speaking their language? Language barrier is the biggest thing keeping me from Ukraine.
t. a Triggerhappy Finngol
WTF is this meme
If would happily serve with women if and only if they can achieve the existing standards that are demanded of men. If they can do that then I don't expect they'll be likely to bitch about their nails or faff around with makeup.
oh it works. i was one of those dudes who learned some kurdish, at least some that's usefull in a military environment. besides that, kurds don't have a country of their own, so a lot of them migrated to europe. you could often meet some who spoke german, french, italian or swedish, and ypg commanders always make sure there's some guys around who translate for each other. also, a lot of the kurds studied before the war, either in syria, iraq or turkey, so they speak basic or advanced english. at least for syria i can say that everyone who wanted to attend a university had/has to learn english, no matter what you want to study. no idea why a "rogue state" would do that, but anways.
oh and some guys i've been in syria with are now in ukraine. seems like there's a lot of international units out there, just google a bit. if you know english you're good to go.
no. a lot of the girls are pretty flirty, especially the younger ones, but sexual relationships are forbidden. there's one or two volunteers i know who claim to have fucked some gals, but i actually think they're full of shit. i've been staying a few days in northern iraq tho, where i took my flight from, there's some hookers there who're after westeners. i'm a bit of an autist tho, and not the type of guy for hookers.
read my first post you stupid idiot, i've been over there in 2015.
Its a well known fact that the IDF employs eastern European models for propaganda.
lol didn't make the thread and I think you raise some valid points. I think the biggest obstacle honestly, which you kind of pointed at, is not treating women as special in any way. If they stir shit no one will like them but they will put up with them. That is not something new in the military. There are countless people that create insane problems for their platoon for a variety of reasons. And so the women that did fit the stereotype of causing drama would just be incorporated into the general shittyness that can exist in an army. Command wouldn't and shouldn't give a fuck anymore than they already do. Soldiers complain all the time. But there is this kind of overtone that women should be listened to because you don't want to be sexist, and yes that needs to be absolutely exterminated. It needs to be clearly communicated that they aren't going to be coddled and they're going to get fucked with by their squadmates and platoon. "Sexual harassment" should be treated about as significantly as racism, meaning not at all. Soldiers tell horrible jokes and generally don't give a fuck.
So you're a woman and you want your country to be strong. What's the best way to help? Get married and have lots of boys that can grow up to be soldiers, and girls that will grow up to be wives and mothers? Or is it to waste your babymaking potential by dieing in a foxhole? Or maybey it's to waste your military budget by getting pregnant as soon as you're called to deploy, thereby wasting all the money and effort training you in the first place?
Because she's a bitch
t. hasn't seen women get into uniform
seriously they bump up the scale quite a bit with 3s going up to 6s and 6s going up to 8s.
just because she's hot it doesn't mean she's a thot
Do present the proof for such facts, if they are so well known.
It would be a waste of shekels anyway. Since Israel has female conscription there are a massive number of IDF women. All 18-20 year olds. At least some of them are pretty hot. Since the Internet sits wanking to pictures of pretty women, the pictures of hot IDF girls gets spread around without the least need for an actual propaganda campaign. And why would the IDF bother anyway? It's not as if the rest of the world will look at hot jewish flesh and promptly decide to hate the muslims because they had no previous reason to.
and then the whole train clapped
no, women generally get their max score at about the same number of reps or speed where males get a failing mark.
Well baited fren
>runwaman.exe
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Because men are better suited for combat in literally every single way.
Not even close.
THE BEARS CAN SMELL THE MENSTRUATION!!!
Plus they are both more mentally and physically weak!
lol, sounds horrible.
They are exactly the same in most of Europe, only example with different standards for females and males over here I can think about is Germany
Because women that have more testosterone (a natural byproduct and creator of aggression) are sluts. Sluts distract from the battle. Don't believe me? Just go talk to a Marine female type.They are the masters of sexual disaster.
Uh, she does. Passengers and Red Sparrow come to mind. Internet Movie Database if you want a better list.
WOMEN LITERALLY CANNOT REMAIN FAITHFUL.
THEY WILL JOIN THE ENEMY AND FUCK THEM, GUARANTEED.
SEE: WHITE AMERICAN FBI AGENT LEAVES LIFE BEHIND FOR BIG ISIS-RAPPER COCK.
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