Chinese military capabilities:
at this time what could the Chinese military take on? what are their strengths and weaknesses? Could they invade another country or are they only enough for defense? What are the capabilities of the bases in the south China sea
Chinese military capabilities:
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Anyone know how the type 99 performs?
Not much really, they lack experience and don't have the logistical knowledge to go across the globe. They can fight India and that's about it.
Didn't Chinese troops working with the UN somewhere in Africa just abandon their post when some militia attacked?
They were ambushed outside of the designated green zone and they all ran away back to the compound. The militia got a couple of Chinks dead and everyone ran back to the compound leaving their equipment behind.
Now the Sudanese warlord has free Chink UN helmets, QBZs and vehicles.
The most hilarious part is that it happened at least 3 times and 3 times they ran away. The worst encounter was like 5-6 Chinks dead due to IED and they still ran away even though they had APC/IFV support.
If they ran away against African warlords imagine fighting an actual US military with real combat experience.
Could this change quickly?
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Obviously this is a simplified analysis and not very correct on strength but the amount of manpower they could pull from their population does seem troublesome.
>Chinese Indian war
Now that's a war I'd like to see happen.
It would cut some of the pollution down a bit
Yes, but it would require nearly the entire leadership offing themselves
Maybe in Korea, now that every man carries a machine gun not so much
Does their vehicle camo work or is it a meme?
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Already happened. The Indians tried to be cute and slowly annex part of the border regions, the Chinese told them not to do that a few times and when the Indians ignored the warnings, the Chinese dropped a couple thousand troops on their units in the border region, pushing most of the Indians out and encircling and trapping an entire indian division. And then the Chinese just let them walk away because the whole point of it was to send a message and the Indians had gotten the message by then.
Meh. Paint over the red star (something they do in the field anyway) and it's just another cookie-cutter digital woodlands pattern.
It works if you want to cruise the miracle mile
well all they really do is parade so sure
Why the gayboi have tiddy tho
Kek
Type-95 is it trash?
Cool do we have any data on when they were used by the Africans?
Probably fielded by a warlord or one of his lieutenants
Why do the Chinese and Japanese use the "type-number" for their naming conventions?
Right but did they work? Were they actually used?
No idea desu
Chinese are like ants, they'll inundated you with numbers. Logistically, how can they sustain a real foreign invasion unless its some southeast Asian shithole. China is trash.
Saudis have been using Chinese artillery in Yemen, anyone know the results?
Seconding
>have all the money in the world qnd could easily get combat proven artillery systems
>decide to go for cheap, untested Chinese shit
Why?
Probably US pressure to gain knowledge over Chinese capabilities.
their are a lot of pissed off nco's and soldiers who would bring hell down upon the China. we train not always perfectly not the best but we train and we get alot better at doing the things of war because that is all that matters w have a whole system built solely for training large massive training grounds
I really hope we have countermeasures to their nukes, our war with China should have happened long ago and now its going to be way bloodier.
I shot a type 97 back to back with a tavor, same ammo, same mags, and the difference was night and day. Type 97 handled a lot worse despite weighing as much, noticeably slower to get back on target for followups. Could feel every component of the action in my shoulder, it was weird. It works and it's cheap but that's about the extent of its good points.
If anyone is interested in exactly how shitty the PLA performed in their last major conventional conflict, this is worth reading:
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If anything I would expect things to go more poorly now, the upper echelons are profoundly corrupt (for a while promotion pricelists were openly circulating) and the grunts have no meaningful experience and no motivation to do anything beyond the bare minimum to collect a paycheque. They're not expecting to fight and it's not at all clear that they would if the order came down to do so.
Did you have any jams? Did it seem like it would be a bitch to clean?
to be fair, un peacekeepers have performed abominably in a lot of actions they've been in
un peacekeeping is/was a mistake
How would they do in an invasion of their own country?.
just a translation thing
why do we use m-number as designations?
No jams, seemed reliable enough, but it was feeding 5.56 and I don't know anything about whatever cartridge it eats back home. Definitely more of a pain in the ass to clean than an AR, though I didn't think it was any worse than the tavor or other bullpups. Seemed like it probably wouldn't do as well with neglect as the tavor but I don't have anything to back that up.
Saudis, Yemen... I'm gonna guess a bunch of dead civilians.
Gotcha, thanks for the info user.
My guess is that it'd strongly depend on the unit on the receiving end. Things have changed a bit under Xi, but the PLA has a lot of the same problems as the CCP more generally- how things work in any given area has more to do with how competent or corrupt the local cadres are than anything else. There are units that would probably evaporate at the first sign of trouble (because leadership would be on planes to Vancouver), there are other units that would probably fight tooth and nail. There was a lot less central control over PLA/PAP units in the west than you might expect, at least. I'm not sure how much that's changed under Xi, I expect he's tried to rein things in a bit. Ten years ago there were PAP units literally fighting in the street with PSB in Xinjiang (who knows over what- probably one commander stepping on another's racket)
Well, they seem vary capable of keeping their population in their place while keeping the party in power.
I knew a guy who was on a freedom of navigation exercise. He said the Chinese ships were "good".
Source
No one wants a US-China war. It would be bigger than WW1, WW2, Korea, Vietnan, and GWOT combined.
But smaller than US vs. USSR.
I seriously doubt that.
No one wants it but its fated to happen
>It works and it's cheap but that's about the extent of its good points.
That's exactly what it was made for and is therefore already better than all the trash the Chinks had to use beforehand.
Literally google "chinese UN peacekeepers run away", jesus Chang.
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And no power in this world goes unchallenged. China is clawing it's way to power and the two powers will fight it out unless one falls on it's own.
Deep bro, but this is the real world not a utopia, different things drive us.
The PLA disagrees- they're going back to AK pattern rifles ASAP. QBZ-95 will have one of the shortest lifetimes in service of any PLA weapon.
>unsourced claim by some NGO not backed up by officials from any country
Yeah no
He's probably referring to the Sino-Indian border war in 1961.
So a lot like the Iraq war
Lolwut? Army men green plastic fittings AND fucking MINECRAFT foliage 'camo'. What the actual fuck are them chinks even thinking?
Is that a famas?
FYI: I'm in China and this page isn't blocked. Your copypasta isn't working as intended.
Why are you there
>dont have the logistical knowledge
china doesnt have the logistical know how? they fucking own 450 ports around the world
they can dump weapons pretty much where ever they want and no one will notice
xD
You know you tank is bad when it have both the weakness of T-72 and Abrams but no good point.
this
>No one wants a US-China war.
Says you.
Their navy is pure dogshit.
That's not fair. You get immoral nations sending apathetic soldiers you get some bad results. Send guys who actually give a fuck about the mission and the job and they can get a lot done.
agreed.
Not gonna lie I'm digging those whitewalls.
That's why we reform the Eight-nation alliance.
they could pick yet another meatgrinder fight with the slavs
I've never been in a total war but I know people who have, none of them liked it. Wanting a war on the scale of a US-China showdown shows how ignorant you are.
>Anyone know how the type 99 performs?
Impressively.
UN peacekeepers are not allowed to fire back. Murrican troops there would have gone fugg yaaah and caused some international incident instead of following the orders.
Protecting niggers, kikes and arabs is not worth risking soldiers lives.
Wasnt that already debunked as the fabrication of a Washington D.C. based newspaper citing "anonymous withness testimonies" and the UN investigation revealed Chinese where actually the only ones from the 5 different nationalities that have evidently enganged combat and held their positions?
And poo in the loos just keep still spamming and "asking" for this fake news because they are butthurt Chinese laughed about poos them actually doing that the year before?
you mean the same site that boasted an impressive 796 kill count of russians in syria and their "source" was some ukranian radio?
yeah the same
>I know i works
>no I dont have to be there to claim it does
Poos? I'm down with an India China conflict because I think China would fair worse than they think.
Please don't call the Indian peoples poos chang. I like them much more than your corrupt population.
t.Poo in the Loo
Probably smaller than WW1. For one the naval engagements will be a decisive victory for the USA. An ensuing total war of attrition would be very unlikely.
Depends on the mission and the ROE. UN does great shit in Congo because they get free-reign. UN does crap on the Golan Heights because their ROE is cucked beyond belief.
No two UN missions are the same and no two nations who contribute troops are the same. Euro Nations and India are notorious for sending shit troops. Algeria, Bangladesh*, Tanzania, South Africa (biased, cuz from RSA), Uruguay and Ghana have a reputation for sending very motivated troops.
*Poorly trained, but very well motivated. They try.
All UN missions include the right of self-defense. You imbecile. The limitations the UN has are normally:
>No heavy weapons (Golan and Sudan)
>No independent intelligence gathering (old Rwanda mission)
>Only allowed offensive operations after negotiations have failed (Congo today)
Strange, since protecting Jews and (certain) Arabs is all your country's army is good for
>China would fair worse than they think.
Thats what you poos thought the last time you lost a war so hard you had to invent 2 wars you didnt lose because no one actually attacked you just to claim "2 out of 3 wins".