Is a monkey's fist considered a blackjack? The state of Virginia prohibits the concealed carry of blackjacks...

Is a monkey's fist considered a blackjack? The state of Virginia prohibits the concealed carry of blackjacks, so I'm wondering if I'd get in trouble having one of these on me.

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There is no state of Virginia, it’s a commonwealth.

It depends what their definition of "black jack" is.

I’m assuming you can’t carry a firearm judging by the fact you are even remotely interested in this.
If I was you user I’d carry a knife instead. I’m not knocking the monkey fist and saying it’s totally ineffective, but if I was a mugger or drugged up junkie and someone pulled that on me I’d probably just beat the shit out of them. If someone pulls a knife on you it’s a lot more of a deterrence. No one wants to get stabbed or cut.

I can't carry any weapons on me at my job. I suppose a slungshot in my pocket serves no utility (I can't think of when I'd need one commuting to work) so it would be considered a weapon in that case. So you think a gentleman's folder (a utility knife) would be the best option in this case? If I carried a tacti-cool assisted open knife with a tanto point my employer might think negatively I think, but I might be able to get away with a 3.5" folder with a wood handle.
I can't find VA's definition and I can't find any court cases.

monkey's fists typically fall under the "slungshot" category, so see if that's named by your state as banned

Buy a leather coin purse

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>blackjack
I don’t think a monkey’s fist is blackjack
Now is it a slapjack on the other hand...... oh yeah

Just carry one anyway. The question isn't one of legality, but do you want to be secure in your person and affects?

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If you can't carry a weapon for your job, don't carry a weapon.

If it's on your keys then it is a keychain. It just happens to be a ball bearing wrapped in paracord keychain.

>is Jow Forums a good place to ask for legal advice?
NO

I personally go with a small box cutter. If they ever somehow find out you carry it, offer to give them the blade then just replace it with one of the blades conveniently in the handle.
>39572288
Coin purses are for old women and faggots
Idiot

Boot knife

It's likely there is no codified definition of a sap (or most other non firearm/knife weapons). Most states tend to operate on the "I'll know it when I see it" principle despite this being specifically prohibited at the federal level, and they've been getting away with it since at least the mid 1800s.

At least one person in my state was convicted of illegally carrying a "slung-shot" when he whacked a mugger with his nametag lanyard after work.

Yikes

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What shithole are you from?

>all law oppresses muh rights
Then you shouldn't complain when a melanin-enriched 'free man' takes your TV since he shouldn't need your permission.

Concealed daggers and bowies are illegal here.

Arizona.

That's a retarded argument and you know it. Theft of personal property and carrying a weapon for self defense are not even slightly comparable.

Huh, that's surprising. Must have gotten a jury of nothing but idiotic soccer moms.

Must've had a shit lawyer

Dude was a fucking idiot , this is Arizona .
Only idiots get in trouble in this state .
For real though . IF YOU GET IN TROUBLE WITH THE LAW IN ARIZONA YOU DESERVE IT .
Fucking place is the wild west everything short of child sodomy is permitted .

BAN ASSAULT ROCKS AND STRINGS

Are YOU being so disingenuous that you can't imagine the use criminals would have for concealed weaponry? I agree that concealed-weapons laws can be retarded, but regulations are inevitably needed to protect citizens' rights to safety, just as anti-theft laws are needed to protect their right to private property.

Citizens do not have an enumerated right to safety. In fact nowhere is it even MENTIONED in the Constitution. But they do have an enumerated right to have and carry weaponry.

>Thinks Force and Violence are the same thing
They are polar opposites

Are you actually retarded enough to believe that criminals will give half a shit about those laws? They're practically unenforceable so the only thing they do is fuck over peaceful citizens who want to protect themselves from violent criminals.

There's two kinds of crimes. Crimes that are crimes in and of themselves (i.e. theft and murder) and things which are criminalized in order to prevent acts which are crimes in and of themselves (i.e. money laundering and gun control). To be a crime in and of itself, a direct victim of the specific act is required. The burden for outlawing these is justifiably low. But the burden to justify outlawing acts which are not crimes in and of themselves should be much higher. You must prove that those kinds of laws are actually effective at reducing crime. Because if they aren't then they're just a pointless infringement on liberty.

What are you smoking and where can I get some?

>Natural Law
look it up

Natural law is an intangible philosophical concept, I'm pretty sure you can't smoke it.

From what I know about it, he was indeed being an idiot
>gets mugged at gunpoint
>hands over wallet and phone, no hassle
>mugger crams gun back in pants and turns to leave
>decides to whack him in the ear with a 2oz lanyard when his back is turned
Got charged with aggravated battery and carrying a slung-shot. Acquitted on the battery charge.

My understanding of the law says while what he did was retarded, nothing he did was illegal.

Ah, I forgot about the fundamental natural right enshrined in the US Constitution: "The right to steal someone's TV shall not be infringed."

Are you actually retarded? Carrying a weapon in and of itself is not harming others. Stealing someone's property is harming another. Regulation of concealed carry is impossible to enforce unless you stop and deep frisk everyone leaving their home. Theft is very easy to enforce and deal with.

You literally only affect those willing to follow the law.