Rifle slings and rucksacks

Eberlestock little brother. It’s my favorite pack in that size range and it’s less than $200

If you can fight with your pack on, why does it matter if your rifle is underneath? It takes a second or two to take your daysack off or put it on if for some reason you absolutely need to have your weapon unslung. In my experience there's a lot more times where you need your daysack off but your weapon on you. It's generally just shit drills to constantly be having to take your weapon and sling off and put it down somewhere just to get into your daysack. The daysack will come off a lot more than your weapon should, seeing as your weapon should be slung to you all the time outside the wire and within arms reach inside the wire.

You do you lad, whatever works easiest for what you do.

If it’s slung over the straps the pack comes off without moving the sling and if it’s under the pack it comes off just the same. The only problem I find is that over the straps it’s uncomfortable and under the straps makes it harder to move the rifle around

Because I'd rather sacrifice a few seconds to get ready for dumb army games that involve not using my rifle, than sacrifice a few seconds getting ready for reacting to contact.

Maybe I'm not understanding you, but if you have your sling over your daysack straps you can't get the daysack off without taking the sling off or at least doing some arm wiggling.

If having your sling under your daysack impedes your ability to react to contact, you're retarded and don't know how to sling a weapon properly. At least with the slings we use, when it's unclipped you have full mobility of the weapon, and when clipped you can have it hang by your side or slung over your back comfortably. And again, seeing as your daysack will be coming off a lot more than your weapon (to rebomb mags, get kit in and out, getting in and out of vehicles etc) it makes no sense to have to take that sling off every time and then put it back on. And once again, it's shit drills to be constantly putting your weapon down in the mud or grit just because you wanna get some Haribo out of your daysack.

It’s a little swimming but it doesn’t have to come off your neck to get that ruck strap off.

When y’all are thinking about taking your ruck off to shoot how much weight are you thinking about being in it? I’m usually carrying no more than 30 something pounds in this pack so I’m not too inclined to ditch it. If I had a lot more in there that’d be a different story.

I'm not a l33t oper8r, so I just have a basic bitch sling, but I also do more hiking in bear country than sandnigger country, and bears don't announce themselves with poorly aimed ak fire, so seconds actually do matter.

Maybe your sling is different, but our sling goes across the chest, behind the neck and then behind the shoulder, so your arm is through both the sling and the daysack strap, so if you attempt to get the one underneath off you have to do a bit of flapping around.

In terms of daysack weight mine can be up to 20kg if there's some essential shit in there but I try to keep it as light as possible with only mission essentials like ammo, emergency rations, spare batteries etc. If shooting from any position other than prone I keep it on, if shooting from prone I'll unloop one arm and keep the left arm in the strap while in prone to use the daysack as a rest and also so I can swing it up onto my back if I need to move. If I know I'm gunna be hunkered down and not moving I'll just take the cunt off. Wearing a daysack in prone is a pain due to it riding up and pushing your helmet and your head down hence why you normally whip it off sharpish.

You haven't answered why having your weapon sling under your daysack straps is any slower. Again with the slings we use, when the weapon is unclipped there is only one point of contact at the rear which means the weapon is free to be moved unimpeded by the sling, hence you don't have to do anything do it to be able to react to contact, you just get your weapon up and conduct your RTR drills. We always patrol with weapons unclipped so it's not like we have to take a few seconds to unclip it.

That explains it. Better you keep your sling under your pack if it's a bitch to get on/off, and it's really adjustable. A simple 2-point is pretty easy to take on and off; easier than a pack imo.

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I am OP. My sling is a two point magpul that I keep mounted at the front of the rail and outer side of the stock

The sling isn't hard to take off, it's more that I'd rather have my weapon attached to me as often as possible, and there are a lot more situations where I'll have my daysack off and my weapon still slung than vice versa. Each to their own though, whatever works for you.

Fair one, I've just always found it awkward when you try and get the one underneath off without taking off the top item first or at least having to wriggle my arm around. Maybe I'm just a spastic, it's well within the realm of possibility.

With a two point on you do have to get that arm out before the strap can come off but you don’t have to get it off your neck, some people even prefer to shoot that way, but it’s easy to get back on normally

Different slings for different things.

Yeah I just normally have the issue when I'm in flap state 10 and try to get one thing off and realise too late it's the one on the bottom. It's even worse when you have webbing, camelback rig, weapon and daysack on, too many fucking straps for me.

Post your ruck and rifle set ups

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