Literally the only thing he did wrong was record himself killing the two pieces of shits.
Literally the only thing he did wrong was record himself killing the two pieces of shits
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>he did wrong was record himself killing the two pieces of shits.
he also dragged their bodies to the basement
Maybe the act of filming was a cry for help.
He didn't drag their bodies there, he sat in waiting for them in the basement. He shot them as they came down to the basement and they tumbled down the stairs. All he had to say was "I went to sleep in my basement because I was afraid, they robbed me many times before and stole some of my firearms, I heard noise during the night and it woke me up, I grabbed the nearest weapon and shot the intruders, and as they were incapacitated, I saw them reach for something as if they were armed, so I opened fire again which killed them"
Instead, he recorded himself making it plain that he was executing them, so the media used it to appeal to muh children made mistakes he wuz a good boy.
>He shot them as they came down to the basement and they tumbled down the stairs.
>Minutes later when Kifer entered the basement, he shot her at the top of the stairs. Wounded, she fell down the stairs, and after Smith's rifle jammed, he shot her multiple times in the chest with a 22-caliber revolver, dragged her across the floor to set her beside the body of her cousin, and then shot her fatally under the chin.
Which comes from a newspapers interpretation of what happened?
>he shot her multiple times in the chest with a 22-caliber revolver
>shot her
>.22 caliber revolver
But why
Make that evil cunt's last moments on Earth be agonizing pain and suffering.
Honestly, if I had been him, I would have shot both of them in the gut, stripped them so I'd be sure they had no weapons they could retaliate with, then called the cops after a good 15-20 minutes or so when they've almost completely bled out and tell the cops my phone was dead and I had to charge it before I could call them.
>be living in your home
>two punks break in and you shoot them
>get 25 to life for premeditated murder
And then you are carted off to prison .
Funny how many people would be sent to prison if a SHTF scenario happened and they tried to "operate" threw it .Gut shot them and leave them to bleed , than call cops and use the cell excuse .
Are you legitimately retarded, you believe the newspaper made that up? It came from the police report you fucking retard. KYS nigger ape
It takes less than a minute to hook up a phone to a cable and turn it on retard
He also said he didn't want to bother the police on thanksgiving so he called the next day.
No one can really know what happened.
You havent even listened to the audio have you. First kid clearly took steps down and was shot, the girl can be heard tumbling down.
You're retarded.
His Mini-14 jammed.
>just as good as an AR
I don’t believe you can be murdered if you break into someone else’s house. Your life and rights are forfeit. Someone in their own home shouldn’t have to figure out if your intention is to steal a tv, play a practical joke, or outright murder you.
>“Excuse me my fine melanin enriched compatriot, is this particular intrusion meant to do me bodily harm or monetary loss? Oh the latter? Very well, let me assist you on getting my flat screen into your Monte Carlo”
What if takes 15-20 minutes to find your cellphone?
Burglars weren't niggers in this case, they were trailer park trash meth users.
The truly redpilled know whites cannot commit crime. White burglars, robbers, and murderers do not exist. Even if they did, their causes are noble and their actions justified and worthy of storied remembrance. Every crime ever committed is by a minority.
Breaking in and stealing shit = niggers. in this case, white niggers.
>wtf is an autopsy???
>wtf is an audio recording?
They were niggers, though.
Just ignore that fucking retard.
I don't think the whole "shot them under the chin" thing would be covered under self defense.
So:
Don't shoot in a way that makes it clear it's an execution
don't drag their bodies around while they're still alive.
don't film yourself in a home defense situation.
What is up with MN and fucking people over in legit self defense?
>muh rugged ranch rifle
Niggers come in every color, including white, and nobody likes any of them. There are good and bad everywhere.
>inb4 MAGApede based blacks
Minnesota has parts of castle
>Existing state statute states that persons do not have a duty to retreat before using deadly force to protect themselves or prevent a felony from being committed inside their residence.
>While, In fact, in Minnesota, you can shoot an intruder — even kill — if you feel threatened with great bodily harm or death.
>You must stop shooting if the threat is eliminated, even if the intruder is still alive.
So the man had been robbed before and was ready this time.
Sounds like they shouldnt have been committing a crime and paid the price.
If he felt threatened he was in the right to shoot someone coming into his immediate space.
But excessive force exists, doesn't it? If your first shot blows out the burglar's knee and he's pleading for his life, which makes more sense: a) calling the police and watching over him while they arrive, or b) executing him on the spot like a goddamn war criminal?
The birthplace of American socialism, the Upper Midwest is a dogshit region
Are they pleading for their life while fumbling in their pocket?
So whites dindu nuffin. OK.
>Sounds like they shouldnt have been committing a crime and paid the price.
The pricsssse of living isss death!
>But excessive force exists, doesn't it?
No. My backyard. My pool party. MY rules
>thinking the exception trumps the rule
If they've surrendered and are clearly unwilling to resist, you have no more right to attack them anymore, or else you'll become the aggressor in this situation. If they tried to draw on you, you can justify shooting them as the position of their body would clearly reflect their actions.
>invite you onto my boat
>"Suck my cock or you're going overboard. My property, my rules."
And where exactly is your backyard located? That's right, state territory. And you've also committed a federal offence by virtue of illegally executing someone in the US.
I agree.
But goddamn was he a weirdo...
Which is illegal.
His property his rules. They forfieted their lives as soon as they stepped on his property.
>Thats how it should be at least.
>shoot a guy who breaks into your house
Fair enough.
>drag the wounded body and execute it with a point blank headshot
Whoa there buddy, that's a bit too much.
But confining and executing a helpless person isn't?
>That's right, state territory.
For now.
Not if they have illegally entered your home and are advancing towards you and you feel threatened.
Same as if you were trapped on someones boat and you fought and harmed them to ensure your own safety.
Why didn't he call the police?
Did he not know that police still work on holidays?
Unironically this. If you enter the domain of someone you do not trust that is your fault and deserve anything that happens to you.
This. Amazing how many retards there are in this thread.
Well this a poor view of it.
It's the kids and parents fault for leaving their child in the care of a long-time friend or relative when statistically they're much more likely to harm or sexually assault them.
So is dragging an incapacitated person around and then shooting them in the head.
This guy looks like he is in the late 60s. Life in prison isn't the same punishment when you already lived your life.
This is iffy because what if I accidentally walked into you backyard or genuinely mistook your house for someone else's?
It's a different concept, but what you're saying still applies.
Should I be allowed to shoot and kill anyone that I don't like or recognize on my property?
>still trying to twist the subject
I said HELPLESS, and thus incapable and/or unwilling to cause any more harm. If you're so vindictive that you believe that an aggressor can't stop being an aggressor, you're going to get squashed in court, simple as that.
How do you determine that someone is helpless.
No.
He shot someone in anger, not fear.
All he had to do was control himself and he didn't.
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It's not illegal in several states to shoot a stranger for merely crossing your threshold. But no US law will protect you from executing them when they have surrendered or are fleeing, which too many anons in this thread refuse to accept. An analogous example would be kicking someone in the head after they got knocked out for attacking me; up until that kick, everything was legitimate self-defence, which has now been marred by an assault charge.
sounds like jewish tricks to me
Pleading, begging, disarmed, wounded and bleeding out... come the fuck on, are you this desperate for an excuse to shoot someone?
Girl was obviously non cooperative and screaming, so follow up shots were justified.
If the audio shows her screaming for mercy, then that's a nail in the coffin for the 'defender' because he deliberately ignored that plea.
The fact that they have shown themselves to act as the aggressor already is all the justification one should ever need to put them in the ground.
And that is bullshit, they attacked you, it is up to you wether you want to be merciful or just.
Then go ahead and try your 'justification' in a court of law. Even if you disagree with the law, you're getting prosecuted and jail time regardless for lack of a better defence.
You are wrong. The lwtter of the law and the courts disagree with you. Thanks for playing.
I fail to see what is so 'just' about going berserk and unloading on a prone target who may be pleading for their life or trying to crawl away. If that's your idea of justice, move to Somalia or some other third-world country supportive of mob-rule.
Move to Somalia if you wish to live in ancapistan.
Mozambique, always.
No and I don't know what side you think I'm on in this thread.
But please see >u r wrong
That depends on the state.
>this level of damage control from AR fanbois
Kek, your shitheap safequeens jam EVERY TIME when a shooting happens.
He did nothing wrong. You should have the right to do whatever you want to home invaders. Defense should not be considered premeditation.
They initiated, ending them is just. If you decide on mercy despite that fact, that is up to you.
You are a civilian, not a soldier. Killing your target is incidental to self defence, not necessary.
>International waters
>your honor, of course I've never had anger issues or fantasies of dragging burglars into my basement and torturing them to death. I did what I did for fear of my life in the spur of the moment.
Stopping them is just. Ending them is not.
There's a reason why police, when using deadly force, "shoot to stop" rather than "shoot to kill". The goal is to eliminate the threat, not eliminate the person. There is no justification for killing if the threat has been removed.
What anger issues. What fantasies. He was already in his basement. There was no torture just an execution. It surely wasn't spur of the moment though as he was robbed in the past. The only difference now was that he was ready and they were there to rob his home again.
>>live in small shit town, everyone knows local drugy teens.steal from old man, small town retard police do nothing, old man, knows that they are watching his house afraid to leave house. moves to make it look like he is not at home, shots druggies.
some how his fault for the police doing nothing.
this story show the break down of the nation, if this was 2o years ago the police would have arrest this two retards. Its a small town everyone knows each other
Didnt try to negotiate or deescalate. If he had he couldve used the footage already gathered to get them jail time. Instead he killed two stupid kids for messing with his stuff. They'd never threatened or tried to harm him. Its not rational to equate personal items to the value of human lives. Afterall nobody gets the death penalty for theft alone of any scale.
He did at least have anger issues for not doing something rational like suggested. And I was arguing against that user's stupid suggestion that premeditated violence from the defender can't exist in a self-defence scenario. There's a reason why booby-traps are illegal.
>war criminal for “execution”
What is this retarded shit
Racism has no place on Jow Forums, please go back to your containment board.
>sleeping basement
>hear crash
>grab firearm and wait afraid in the dark
>door opens and someone is coming down stairs
>shoot them
>other person runs in after them instead of fleeing
Yeah. I'm convinced. Have you ever been in a self defense situation? Any time you had your adrenaline pumping? Feared for your safety?
Remember guies; if someone is breaking into your house and you have no idea who they are or if they're armed or how many of them there are; always call parley so you can sort out the details before returning to your corners and start the instance.
Go look up the criteria for war crimes, preferably the Geneva Convention. Personally executing scared prisoners doesn't fly in war, let alone in peacetime.
Not only are they not members of a military but that only applies to countries military personnel who have signed it...
>Have legitimate home invasion problems
>solve them by creating a premeditated honeypot situation that ultimately leads to you executing a wounded and crying 18 year old girl in your basement. wait a day to call the police.
anyone who thinks this guy dindu nuffin is a fucking retard. both sides of this ridiculous scenario are an example of "play stupid games win stupid prizes."
>negotiate or deescalate
>t. basedboy who doesn't want to kill as many undesirables as possible
ayyyy who is this? she done porn?
>Literally the only thing he did wrong was record himself killing the two pieces of shits.
>Literally
Have you even read the article just under the OP? He practically acted out a Punisher fantasy by deliberately luring them in for an ambush, and likened the killing to 'taking out trash'. Not even an OJ Simpson-tier defence could get this moron off.
That’s fuckin gay
imagine if she got really mad at you and started hurting your balls by kicking them with her boots aha
that would be pretty awful wouldn't it aha
>t. Liar who has never dealt with the threat of real violence and would either freeze or run in fear. Or, if actually doing what he claims, would be in prison getting raped for 25+ years.
You can't eliminate undesirables. Eugenics doesnt work because of human morality and weakness to abuse it to broaden one's political power base.
Not that user but holy shit I cannot believe you took that post seriously let alone responded to it in a serious manner.
It's the internet user, people say fake shit all the time.
not that user either but people are often that retarded, especially on Jow Forums
I don't equate the lives of others to the value of my own things. My own things I personally have worked for, they have far greater value to me than what simply was cuntshat a couple of years ago.
So no, they are not comparable, my stuff has value, the burglars do not.
Well that's a fine opinion, however it's not really compatible with laws of the country you live in. Consider moving out?.
I know. I actually do. I'm just tired of seeing that stupid train of thought. Its not clever, funny, or unique. Its useless and there are some tards on here who unironically believe in it and they feel supported and reassured because no one ever disputes it except for crayon eaters who take the bait. So fuck it.
It's designed to be annoying smolbrain racially charged slurs that trigger people to feed it (you)s.
Good job.
Nor is it compatible with healthy psychology. If everyone suddenly actually believed and acted this way the entire human race would be gone in a month. You also have an unhealthy relationship with your items and an inferiority complex because you use the items you own and can afford as measurements of your own personal value.
Granted some items have real sentimental value because they are heirlooms or gifts. but those items are only important because of the people they represent and the gesture of the gift.
wheres the video?
He was based as hell.