Can I get some info on this. It was gifted to me, but was recovered in Afghanistan back 2010
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Probably an Afghani flintlock pistol from the 1820s.
Unlikely. When they make a Khyber pass knockoff of a gun, they copy the markings too.
At least all the numbers are the right way around.
I didn't see any other Markings other then the date.
It's a copy of a copy of a rifle that was cut down to pistol length after being reassembled from parts of at least 3 different rifles that were themselves copies and then decorated with shells and glue.
It's a cheap souvenir. I would not recommend trying to fire it.
No intent to fire it. Has been in a box in the closet and I'm moving soon forgot I had it.
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yea its fake
My William Gibson sense is tingling
Ive got one similar. Mine was bought in a bazaar near Bagram around 2009. From what I’ve read they’re probably just Khyber Pass/ souvenir guns.
I remember these things from my two tours in Afghanistan. They mostly are just little trinkets souvenirs based off what the Afghan he's did when the British gave them rifles or at least how they decorated them. You'll be hard-pressed to find an actual one seeing as people around that area don't treat machinery or weapons for that matter very well.
>>recovered in Afghanistan back 2010
i.e. Bought at the hajji mart bazarr on BAF........
Fake as fuck.
>Can I get some info on this. It was gifted to me, but was recovered in Afghanistan back 2010
Sorry user. I have a decent depth of knowledge on guns and some anons here will have seen my identification threads. You have a lemon, its pure tourist souvenir all the way and made probably that year. Sorry. No the lock is not antique either, everything is wrong
again...everything is wrong. Sorry.
The good stuff was available around '03-'04, anbd even then it's value was questionable. They know that Americans will pay out the ass for cheap junk.
>based off what the Afghan he's did when the British gave them rifles or at least how they decorated them.
No. Even the decoration is wrong. Old afghan guns while having *some* decoration were not over decorated in this fashion its something that is easy to spot on them. The only real afghan jezails I have seen have come from auctions selling of old houses in the UK or Ireland, the deoration on them is nothing like the style on these
Or on the ISAF tourist jezails. There is far far less of it and it looks nothing like that, you get inlayed garnets etc. Speaking of garnets all of the gemstones from afghan I have seen from deployment bring backs are like the guns are synthetic, lab made worthless and imported from Pakistan to rip of soldiers. Equally the aghan enfields 53/56s, sniders, martinis, percussion pistols etc. All fake.
Interestingly the afghans actually fake their own guns worse than they do the likes of enfields...
My balls are older than that son
Sorry user while the quality of their fake enfields and sniders, martinis etc was better in 03 they were still all garbage, just better made. The jezails and flintlock/percussion pistols were also better at first but were still garbage. The only thing these objects are is souvenirs of deployments and that's all. They have no history or value beyond that
>>souvenirs of deployments
You had to know what you were looking for, and looking at, user. I realize that a lot was crap, but I managed to repatriate a couple decent pieces.
Those sandniggers had the fake antiquing down to science.
it looks like a FAMAS
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>I managed to repatriate a couple decent pieces.
I've compared several enfield locks that are almost right from afghan pieces where people thought they had got guns that were at least partially made from real parts with original locks. While the lockplates can be very convincing on the best of them the illusion falls away when you look t the real thing and the afghan copies. Now the vast vast majority of afghan stuff is not even close but the small minority that is, are not real either. Its not impossible you got something genuine, just incredibly unlikely. You are more likely to find a real antique gun in the UK, US or France than you are in afghan. I have yet to see an original or genuine afghan bring back. The file marks on the tumbler, sear and the tool marks are a dead giveaway but the vast majority like the objects in this thread the decorated 'jezaiils' you can tell just from a photo. I suspect the very few better ones are ones that were copied from original parts in India and don't originate in pak/afghan at all..
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The odds are very much against the pieces you brought back being genuine. That being said it sounds like you got yourself some good souvenirs, so enjoy them as the part of history you saw but don't believe they were around in the 19th century being carried by British or sepoy troops..I have never seen a genuine 19th century jezail coming back from ISAF, they were long gone before even the taliban
It's a wall hanger, the crude as fuck tool marks and lack of proof marks are a dead giveaway