Hey guys, I am applying to graduate school soon and was hoping to pick your collective brains on different states to move to that are good for Jow Forumsommandos. I need to be near relatively large university, and I like /out/ stuff too, but I really want to be able to shoot guns. Tactical shooting, long range shooting, night shooting, all of it. Preferably on national forest or public lands.
Right now I'm considering the following: Utah New Mexico Arizona Nevada Washington Oregon Louisiana North Carolina South Carolina Idaho Texas
It would be great to get some input from you guys on these states. In particular I'm wondering about Washington and Oregon. I've got a good bit of NFA items so those have to be legal...
SMU has a decent post grad business program. Dallas is a rich fucking city with a ton of high tech, finance, and defense industry jobs.
Come fight the good fight user, help keep this place red.
Cooper Myers
I can give you some info on Texas and SC. >South Carolina Grew up here and left when I enlisted. Mountains, lakes, beaches, plenty of /out/. Pretty firearms friendly and Greenville is a pretty nice, clean, growing city. You do have a large black population and they seem to be moving to white areas more and more. I'll be blunt here. I love SC, and I want to buried there but I will not move back and have my son go to school with a bunch of blacks like I did.
>Texas What can I say about Texas that hasn't been said about Mexico. It's super fucking hot 80% of the year, the Hispanic population likes to drink and drive (uninsured), treat everything as their personal trash can, and let their children run fucking wild. Texas doesn't seem to have "the good and bad part of town" it varies from street to street. The hill country is fucking beautiful and the only place worth living in within Texas. Don't be fooled. Texas is a lot more purple than anons on here let on.
>Being near a major university Not really that important unless you are trying to teach and take it from me, someone with 2 MAs, you make more teaching grade school. Colleges and Universitys only seem to hire part time/adjunct positions that pay MAYBE 30k yearly. Most major universities have online programs now.
I'm really under the weather ignore any glaring mistakes and ask any questions about Texas and SC.
Here is a pic of my hometown Greenville, SC. Like I said, it has many faults but as Lewis Grizzard said, "I'm American by birth and a southerner by the grace of God" and it's always going to be my home despite leaving here in 2007. GL user, I'm headed to the grocery store. I'll check back tonight and see if you had any follow up questions.
Currently OR and WA are pretty dope for gun laws, with the exclusion that WA doesn't allow machineguns. If I-1639 passes WA will be a million times gayer, although in THEORY it should be ruled unconstituional and shot down, it's hard to say these days.
OR is great for guns too, weird about CCPs, but that's about it. The only real law of note is needing a BG check for private sales, which is unenforceable regardless.
The NW in general is pretty libertarian/pro gun, minus a few pockets of hyper-liberalism.
That being said, the weather fucking suuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks. A few months out of the year? Some of the most beautiful spaces in the country, hands down, it's fantastic
The other nine months out of the year? Rain, snow, no sun, cold and dark the majority of the day. Shit is depressing.
It's gonna pass, I'm out of this shit state once I'm done with college
Parker Cox
Wherever you go do not move in and vote for fucking democrats
>whaaa but I'm not a single issue voter
No, just no
Noah Gonzalez
Arizona is great but most of the jobs and the two bigger universities are restricted to Phoenix and Tuscon metros, which are in deserts so if you want to live in forests with snowy winters you need to live in smaller more isolated towns. Utah is great but same story, most jobs and universities are restricted to SLC area. Nevada is good, but most of the population lives in Clark county. Idaho is good, same story as it's southern mountain states counterparts. New Mexico is pretty boring, but also good on guns and /out/ like the others. Eastern Washington is pretty cool farther away from all the liberals along the coast and good /out/ everywhere in Washington. Don't know about Oregon, Texas, Louisiana or the Carolinas.
Guys give me more options in the South and near the Smoky Mountains.
>Weather sucks It really that bad? I'm not into the rain... >weird about CCP How so? I intend to carry. So long as ARs aren't cucked, suppressors and SBRs are allowed, and mags aren't cucked I am down. While I consider universal background checks unconstitutional and a defacto gun registry, I can deal with it. This would be a 3-4 year thing.
Fugg. If that shit passes no way. Oregon good to go though?
>New Mexico Beautiful landscape, good public land, good gun laws. You can carry without a permit if the gun isn't loaded. Cops are pretty chill, the populace is pretty chill. Lots of Mexicans. The best Mexican food I've found in general, and I've lived in places with lots of Mexicans. >Arizona Never lived there but I've been through a lot, talked to lots of people from there. Strong shooting and outdoors culture. Constitutional carry. The landscape is beautiful and has more interesting plants and less interesting rocks compared to New Mexico. >Louisiana Avoid. >Both Carolinas Avoid. These places and Louisiana have basically no public land, bad gun laws, bad demographics, and shooting/outdoors culture is something rural people do and city people don't. >Texas It's basically just New Mexico or Arizona but worse in every way other than having more cultural entertainment in big cities, like art museums and aquariums. I know this is Jow Forums but that shit still does matter. Strong state pride, and Texasfags will tell you how great it is, but the gun laws aren't good and there isn't much public land because it's all been bought up 100 years ago by rich people. You're fucked for doing things outdoors if you aren't close friends with someone who owns a lot of land. >Idaho/Utah I've never actually been to these ones, but if I were in your shoes I would pick one of them, and then Arizona, and then New Mexico in that order of preference.
I would actively try to not go to Oregon, and you couldn't pay me enough to live in Washington.
Angel Gutierrez
There are many public shooting ranges here in SC and Greenville is a pretty decent place to live
Xavier Hernandez
Fuck off SC has some pretty decent outdoor public shooting ranges and everyone from the city people to rural folk use them
Justin Anderson
Fuck Greenville.
It is full of yankees, hipsters, and niggers.
Julian Reyes
Consider Wyoming too friend.
Camden Richardson
>texas Everything he said here is true. Texas is super overhyped and itll be firmly blue here in 5 to 10 years. Everything outdoors here sucks too because its stupid hot.
Landon Lee
Henderson county NC, southern people, in the mountains, we have a Publix, near enough to Asheville to enjoy the food, far enough away hippies aren’t seen
I live in SC right now and the closest public range is an hour away. Go fuck yourself. This place is absolute trash for gun owners. No guns signs hold weight of law here, no public land fucking anywhere, CCW takes fucking forever to process. Eat shit.
OP, don't fucking move here. There are a lot of really nice things about the state and some pretty bad ones, but it is not gun friendly.
Anthony Baker
Don't forget Montana bruh
Carson Stewart
Tucson is better in the sense you're not in a city. And what gun laws? We have very few. How do you like heat? Cause we only have two seasons hot as hell and slightly less hot.
Jayden Davis
If you PROMISE to vote a straight red ticket in every state, local, and federal election....Colorado is a decent Jow Forums state. We need more freedombros here to push back the hordes. Nobody enforces the mag ban, there’s loads of BLM land to larp on.
It’s a little pricy, but if you don’t plan on living in Denver or right next to whatever college you pick, we’re not too far gone yet
Red Hill Range near Athens and UGA. Since the Smokey Mountain Park and Chattahoochee National Forest are heavily wooded, no real long range available. Good Gun Culture. You just have to shoot on private land or at a Club. River Bend has weekly matches out to 600 yards. South Georgia is where you can shoot all the long range you can afford ammo for blasting feral hogs.
Jordan Thompson
Come to AZ, we need more like you to keep it this way.
I agree with this guy, but OP honestly you should be basing your decision on the grad program not the area. Grad school is a serious investment both financially and mentally. The course work is much more intensive than your standard liberal arts undergrad degree. You seem pretty cavalier about how you are making this major life decision. & Fwiw CO has a lot of great universities (Boulder, Regis, DU, Mines)
>t. CO fag
Samuel Barnes
basically any state that doesn’t collect income tax, which narrows it down to 9 and they’re all pretty based so take your pick
I seriously don’t know why you other states allow yourself to be cucked by big brother
Pls come to PA to help against the hordes of Jerseyites and Jew Yorkersn and to keep Philly contained
Jack Diaz
>moving to any state with dude weed lmao yeah no unless you want to be harassed by street hippies every damn day on your way to work or a night out with the gf/wife fuck that
goddamn liberals
Luis Turner
You will assimilate into Asheville within the next 2 years. Hippies are the fucking devil and you are going to have to go WAY further than one county over for it to matter VERY soon
Benjamin Gomez
Then come here to tucson.
Julian Mitchell
NC is the wigger version of SC
AZ is straight trash. "B-b-but you can open carry!!!" Great, you can open carry in your fucking trash can.
Chase Campbell
OP quit dicking around and just move to Virginia. Great grad school programs and good gun laws
Thomas Jones
New SC poster here. I've only ever lived here and always thought it was very gun friendly. There is a shit ton of land to buy which you can shoot on all you want. Greenville for instance, you can buy land outside of town, then just drive 15-20 minutes and you're in the middle of town. I live in the coastal part of the state and shoot on my land all the time. You can live a very rural lifestyle while simultaneously living 15 minutes from downtown. Lots of blacks, very few other minorities which is all good. I like a lot of the friendly blacks around here. Easy to avoid the bad ones.
Lucas Collins
>New Mexico
As a long time NM resident I would say things are fairly chill here. But if you were going to move here I would have a job lined up because it's tough to find a decent one here.
Unfortunately most of the best work here is in government/research.
Worry more about where you can get into school, faggot.
Charles Evans
We can conceal carry too without needing special permission
Julian Russell
I'm moving to Yancey County soon. See you in a couple months, neighbor!
Brody Green
AZ is undoubtedly the best state for guns and gun culture in the contiguous US, not just with open carry. There's a reason why AZ is the best state for gun laws in the lower 48. It was the last state to join the union in the lower 48, our state-ship was delayed for 4 decades because the state was too violent, wild, and uncivilized for Washington.
Ryder Morgan
>already considering U Wyo! Any direction, drive an hour at most to be on public lands. Half the state is BLM.
James Hill
Stay out of WA, we're full.
Henry Jones
Im gonna save the sob story, but im at a pretty low point in life after i lost my wife and want to get out of this shitty state. Sold the house and the car, but i dont have much to my name minus couple expensive guns I can sell, bachelor's degree in business, and excellent credit score. I'm currently in Texas, but I want to move more remote and away from the city and families for a fresh start. Realistically speaking, how easy would it be for me to move to montana, wyoming, or even alaska and find a decent enough job to get by?
Parker Powell
with a business major? probably not unless you're gonna go entrepreneur route and make your own business. Those states need practical skills.
Gavin Hughes
But can you buy big mags in the store? I fuckin hate cucked mags and refuse to buy them in CA. I know CO has the mag ban so it has to be enforced by stores right?
Sebastian Carter
All of us gun owners need to move to Arizona and entrench ourselves to counteract the beaner blue voting hordes. If this last stand falls we all move to Alaska. Then feds get fucked and fags can have the lower 48. Trust me Arizona and Alaska are some of the most beautiful states in the country and I’m from CA which is pretty nice looking despite having the worst of the worst folks from around the country flock here.
Ryan Flores
>wyoming Can you operate quarry equipment or join LE? Otherwise it depends on the area a lot. Highway Patrol always needs more motherfuckers to drive across the rectangle all day.
Gavin Evans
Solid assessment. I've spent substantial time in all the places you mentioned and I absolutely agree.
>New Mexico Tons of public land, national forest, places to camp and shoot. The food is great, people are awesome. The culture is a weird offshoot of 16th and 17th Spanish Catholic culture and customs totally unique to the state. Everyone is generally friendly, down to earth, and keeps to themselves. New Mexico feels truly territorial and wild in comparison to a lot of the southwest.
Big chain stores like Sportsman’s do. 99% of decent LGSs carry “mag repair kits”, which are mags of any capacity you’d want, just taken apart
If you stay out of boulder and the 16th street mall, this won’t ever happen. Downtown does have a homeless problem admittedly, the opioid epidemic hit Denver hard
Blake Wright
Univ of South Carolina - Intl Business. Home of PSA, The state park adjacent to Shaw AFB in Sumter has a 1000ft range.
Connor Cook
Figured Interested in le. I can also weld if that's worth a damn Lived in south Korea for a couple years, japan for 2, and up in finland just for a couple months. I don't really mind the cold much. And thanks user. I recently quit drinking for good and I just don't have any reason to stay in Texas any longer
Chase Stewart
Sure they are.
Logan Harris
>property tax
Joshua Martin
>I can also weld Those exist, I guess.
Hunter Evans
If you have welding certifications you can get a job really quickly up in Alaska.
You can shoot just about every night of the week in a IDPA or USPSA match in the metro area. Rifle 3gun in the clubs in the outer suburbs or rural. Long range is a bit of a drive to get 500+ yards or more. Ft Gordon in Agusta goes to 800 yards once you pass the background check to bring a gun on base. Ft Benning is similar. CMP Talladega Marksmanship Park is a short drive to Alabama. You can shoot long range but you have to get out of the Urban Sprawl.
Luke Edwards
Gun laws in Georgia pretty decent? How about the weather?
Owen Collins
every state has property tax you dumb cunt at least I’m not getting joo’d extra hard based on state income
also you get to claim a extra $300 or $400 tax rebate for states without income tax so once again extra non joo’d
Don't do Texas for grad school. The only good one is UT Austin and Austin is really poor for firearms. There's some ok outdoors spots within two hours drive but I'd go west if I was you. No really any outdoor ranges.
T. Gf is in grad at UT and I like camping
Grayson Bennett
What's the future political landscape of new Mexico like? Is it due to turn blue within the next few years, like texas is?
Jacob Peterson
He didn't say it was "okay", he said it was better. Jfc, you don't into reading comprehension
Cooper Kelly
People are forgetting New Hampshire and Maine. Those two states basically have no state gun laws and simply follow whatever is federal law.
Lincoln Diaz
>Warning tripcancer off from the shitty states. >wanting a tripfaggot anywhere near you Bad enough I got one right across the river from me. Disgusting.
Nathaniel Evans
NH bro here. I can't be the only NH poster on Jow Forums. Anyone else from the Live Free Or Die state?
Isaac Perry
No i don't want tripcancer here, it's bad enough I'm about to get up and go to work with a bunch of actual communists and it was too hot to sleep last night.
Benjamin Perry
>moving to the sticky sweaty poor destitute desolate shithole black-infested south Fuck that
Liam Young
Fuck off we're full.
Justin Flores
Full of Massholes and Brooklyn Jews. The gun laws are going to get Vermonted in the next 5 years.
Jose Fisher
>How so? I intend to carry.
Nothing big, they just don't have reciprocity with any other state. You gotta take a short class, then pay like $60~(?) bucks and wait for a BG check, but then you're g2g
Joseph Jenkins
You've spent a solid amount of time in New Mexico, Airzona, Louisana, North AND South Carolina, Texas, Idaho, Utah, Oregon and Washington?
NM is alright. NMSU in LC is a pretty good, especially if your grad degree is in an engineering field. The Butterfield range in town is a free public 1000 yard range, that's honestly damn good. NM has good gun laws, but idk how long it'll last.
Jack Jones
Austin has a really good engineering school ut Dallas is still p good. Most tech jobs are in Austin but Dallas has texas instruments where I'm at atm
Charles Cook
New Mexico is currently blue, has been for a while and probably will be forever. There's a strong tradition of not trusting the government, even among the people with Mexican ancestry. But, like every other state the big cities (Abq and Santa Fe) hold all the power and are increasingly liberal. There's no one running on a strong anti gun stance that's being too outspoken about it, but I'm still not super optimistic about the future T. New Mexican.
Christian Hall
Hows Montana Jow Forums? I'm running from commies and need a wide open place.
Great if you love meth and elected officials that assault people. There's also Indian reservations I guess if you're into the wonders those bring.
Trump and Pence have been making damn near monthly rounds there.
Samuel Richardson
i lived in SC and AZ. sc- where I lived you couldnt really shoot past 100 yards but thats not the whole state. you need a permit to carry which is stupid easy to get. plus gator hunting. rain gets annoying fast.
az-better hiking and camping. better prices on guns IMO since there's no water to rust them. umm...its hot as balls in the tucson and phx and in those areas a lot of the out door places shut down during the summer cause of fire danger.
Elijah Howard
Based co gun stores
Nathaniel Rodriguez
I live in the more rural areas of NC pretty chill place when it comes to guns but everything else is shit.
David Ward
Vote Red or get dead.
Isaiah Fisher
grad student here Prioritize your education and make location the second factor. Presumably you're not retarted and are applying to 5-8 schools. Also, consider Missouri.
Levi Adams
Whats up I'm an 828 Bro. I'm ready to flee the area prices for housing are insane. Been looking at Hendo a bit.
Jonathan Gomez
Wa fag here WA sucks. Take me with you? >the new law will pass, and won’t be stricken down
Evan Phillips
Okay not so bad.
>idk how long it will last That is the problem with the entire country tbqh
Okay leaning towards AZ myself because I prefer no bugs, less brush, less moisture.
>everything else bls elaborate. Lots of SC love in here. Tell me about NC?
>Prioritize Yeah I'm just looking for states within which to then explore programs. At the end of the day I'm looking for research in materials science, semiconductor devices, quantum computing/information theory, devices, development, quantum optics, etc. If the program is no good then yeah, I'm not applying >5-8 I'm hoping for 15-20, but I gotta find 10-15 states with good guns laws to move to first lol >Missouri Tell me more. I don't like flat. Like hiking and camping.
>will pass Fucking really? It does look pretty bad.
Cooper Rogers
>Fucking really? It does look pretty bad.
I'd encourage you to go read about [i-1639] on reddit, the whole thing is/was a fucking shit show
Basically, a few billionaires hired some out of state signature pimps to lie, cheat and steal every signature they could. They apparently paid them like $10/signature. That picture I posted earlier was some of the signs they put up, they were literally lying to people to get signatures, telling them i-1639 was for "No grocery tax" or "$30 car tags"
It actually got struck off of the ballot because they had inaccurate/illegible literature attached to the petition, a judge was like "lol nah senpai, u crazy, try again." But, alas, WASC judges are corrupt and cucked, so they allowed back on
Whether or not it passes is questionable, even anti-gun people I know who have read it are against it.. the problem is the people who DON'T read it.
There's also the fact that it's unquestionably unconstitutional (against WA state constitution, specifically), but again, the cucked supreme court judges may not respect that.
It's pretty fucking up in the air
It'll also be basically ignorable if you're just into building ARs. It's also completely unenforceable
Where ever you go, avoid spics like the plague. They're sub human trash that are going to be americas downfall. They treat their ghettos and parts of the cities like their garbage can and are nigger tier pieces of shit that reproduce like rabbits. Anyone who defends spics has never lived near them.
