Why is bluing so common? It rusts!

Why is bluing so common? It rusts!

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It's cheaper, and the old bluing would take literally forever to rust.

>my blued gun has rusted
It's the neglectful owner filter.

>It rusts!
Moot point. Even polymer rusts given the right humidity and temperature.

But user, isn't bluing rust?

You haven't seen what the ocean will do to nice bluing. You have to coat the firearm in renaissance wax, or drench it in CLP to keep the gun from rusting. Noticeable surface rust starts within 24 hours. Any serious pitting in the rifling or crown, and rifles will start to keyhole.

VCI bags do help though.

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Stainless isn’t “stainproof,” it rusts too

I live on the gulf cost. Guns and machines in general need lubrication anyway so wiping down my guns with lube isn't an issue for me. I've had neglected guns rust to hell when I was out of town But people got by just fine for centuries with blue guns and no moisture packs or climate controlled safes

Yes, and so is anodizing

Rust was the primary reason brass finishes were so popular historically, even though brass is much softer than steel.

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>brass
>finish

Regardless, someone needs to produce a stainless AK. I’m surprised it hasn’t been attempted before.

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Besides the machining of course.

I have a couple 100+ year old colts that are beautiful with 97,98,99% blueing, I see mostly nickel plated guns have cracked off nickel of the same models so I prefer blued (1903PH and 1908VP and PH specifically) Just pay the extra and get a nice cared for one with good blueing, and if its a nice model it will appreciate in value or at least match inflation. Ive watched more modern Colt snake guns and various SAAs have differentiated in price between the nice original blued ones vs others.

They've gotten close. Classic used to sell nickel coated WASRs, back before they went entirely to shit.

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bullshit

Would run a dictatorship in a small caribbean country with

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I'd buy one of those Marlin 1895's if freedom group didn't deserve the rope so much

How gauche.

Technically yes, it's magnetite.

No one likes you and your negativity.

I’ve actually seen brass AK’s, and had the pleasure in shooting a few. Only problem is you need to shoot loads that have been reduced in their potency, and even then the frames bend. I don’t really think of them as “disposable” as much as I think they just turn into wall hangers over time.

Interesting, where? I imagine these were cobbled together by hand in a yurt somewhere.

>brass was popular to prevent rust
Brass was never popular, it just happened to be an unused source of metal during the Civil War and some companies were forced to use it for their guns. It was phased out quickly

>live in a place where it's 90-100% humidity all the time
>spray guns with ballistol
>put in gun sock
>never rust
>dont even have a dehumidifier

you guys are doing something wrong.

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It also wasn't usually brass, but a type of bronze called gunmetal which was a little better suited to firearms use.

>90-100% humidity
You picked the wrong place to live

>not living in an underwater paradise

Highly variable.

>not having a rotating schedule of taking 1/2 of your guns out of storage every 4 months and re-oiling them

its like you guys actually shoot your guns or use them, fuckin nerds

Is it just a political thing or a quality issue? I'm between a Marlin and Rossi for a new production lever gun right now.

Freedom group bought marlin, same guys who bought out Remington and if you have been paying attention you know they're on the quality shit list right now. I bought a recent run model 60 and have had no issues, but I guess a lot of guys are having trouble with their lever guns.

Right, I know about Remington, I just hadn't heard much about Freedom Group's effects on Marlin.

A bullshit thing based on internet rumour mutating.
Marlin was shit before the buyout. They did not have the capital to retool or train workers. After the buyout they moved and retooled and are actually back to the pre 00's quality level.
Having a large company actually backing them has helped overall.

>Having a large company actually backing them has helped overall
I wish it was the same with remington.

Would a Marlin be a safer bet than a Rossi right now for a .357 lever gun?

It is though. They are better off financially now then prior to the buyout. Not even the first time they've been bought.
If you look at prices you will see that the price has not climbed in proprtion to inflation or buying power. Only way to keep it low is more efficient mass production or cutting corners. Remington did both. More efficient production using new technology and introducing budget lines. Same reason people don't like late war rifles or Pre 64 Winchesters.
Buying a bottom of the barrel firearm and comparing it to top of the line is not a decent quality standard.

I’m waiting to see if Ruger comes out with a 357 lever gun this year, then Rossi if they don’t.

Have they been hinting at one or is it wishful thinking?
If Ruger dropped a 18-20" .357 lever gun with a loading gate for under $750 I'd hop on it day 1 and buy a Vaquero while I'm at it.

Freedom group is notorious for making good things bad. They cheap out on finish and sometimes parts. Quality control is shit too. I don't know how or if they've changed Marlin, but the finish seems cheaply done compared to my 20 year old Marlin .22. probably the best lever guns you're going to get without intentionally anachronistic design elements though (here's looking at you Henry)
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