M1 Abrahamas knocked out by Iraq Type 59

This is a deflection/distraction thread made by an asshurt vatnik since he got BTFO in the other threads. Sage in all fields.

Not OP, but what could cause the left hole?

>Amerimutts so retarded at building tanks that shitskins Iraqis using tanks built by drunk shitskin vatniks BTFOs their most advanced tanks
How will the fats ever recover? Despite their budget they are getting BTFO by Iraq and snowy nigeria

Abrahams... Lol

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APCR from Iraqi copy of Type 59.

By not having the only dock capable of working on our aircraft carriers sink into the ocean like the Ruskies.
Like seriously, how do you sink an entire dock?

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It didn't sink. It had some minor damage but it did not sink.

>amerifat deflections

I'm not denying that the Russians are retarded ghouls who know nothing about running a navy, but your post is a miserable attempt at whataboutism. This post isn't about sinking docks m8.

>if I wait a few days and try again I won't get BTFO again

Either one of the sabots or a hellfire. Read up on it, we basically used it for target practice before the air Force finished it

Well, technically it did, it's just designed too

>hellfire
It's not from HEAT tho, that's for sure.

>sabots
I'm not sure but the hole looks a bit too large to be from a 120mm APFSDS.

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Oh look it's this shitposter again.

Imagine being such a loser that you have nothing better to do than endlessly repost threads about a tank you don't like.

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That's not big enough for a 100mm hole.

This one is famous "Cojone Eh", it was disabld by SPG-9 hit in the engine, there was fuel leak that started small fire and soldiers were unable to extuinguish it, with fire in engine area it was dangerous to tow vehicle, so it was stripped from all valuable equipment, then crew opened ammunition storage blast doors, thrown inside MG ammo and white phosphorus to prevent capture of still intact vehicle. Also one M1 tank from column fired APFSDS in to turret bustle rear bulkhead.
Later tank was towed by Iraqis from place to place for propaganda purposed (they claimed to destroy numerous american tanks, actually most pictures of "destroyed" M1 tanks in Baghdad were different photos of "Cojone Eh"), civilians completely vandalized it. In the end US command ordered air assets to destroy vehicle even more, AH-64's fired at least two AGM-114 Hellfire missiles, one definetly hit turret side armor (right side of turret), it was also hit by AGM-56 Maverick missile (~50 kg HEAT warhead is big... very big) at turret front, but it appears that armor was not perforated but penetration was at high angle and shaped charge jet got through front turret armor cavity bottom plate and in to hull top plate and probably also turret race ring area, at least well informed people says so and it looks that way on photos. In the end tanks was also hit by at least one JDAM bomb.

>But how it happen?

This is one of the Abrams that were lost during the assault on Baghdad. It was disabled by an RPG-7 and then hit by another Abrams, and then air strikes.

We know it was not destroyed by a Type 59 because none were present that day where the US Army was operating. The Marines fought T-72s at the Baghdad airport.

youtube.com/watch?v=bmOyY4AV5jw

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>disabld by SPG-9
Proofs? Informed sources claim it was destroyed by type 59 and Americans coverup what really happen.

> It was disabled by an RPG-7
>Hole too small for 120mm
>Hole too big for 100mm

Why the Americans story keep changing? Why mutts never ask question about story inconsistencies?

No one reply to him.

Blacktail defense is not an informed source.

Too soon

"You don't need to slope armor bruh, modern penetatrors-
>WWII-era penetrator knocks out tank

>Why the Americans story keep changing?

The story isn't changing. That is what happened.

How does a tank get knocked out by another tank that was never encountered? Can you prove that Type 59s were ever present that day?

But you can never say why. He posts facts, figures and points from infromed expert. But you, shitter you from internet know better? Because holy West tank can never be defeat?

Keep autistic screech when people have question West shitter propaganda cannot answer CIAnigger.

>Can you prove that Type 59s were ever present that day?
The presence of knocked out Abrahams by type 59 is pretty good evidence.

Blacktail is a Mike Sparks sockpuppet, genius.

Not that I'm trying to defend OP here but they're different people, although both retarded.

He has facts, figures and informed opinion of Western Expert. Western Expert, not Russian.
What do you have, apart from nigger dick in your wife?

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german news reported on it spiegel.de/spiegel/a-292818.html

i remember becaue my dad told me how surreal it is.

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Blacktail's videos require heavy fact checking and he is not an informed expert.

>anyone in sparky's orbit
>an expert in anything
Parachute folding maybe. Is there no level of desperation commies won't sink to?

>this nigger doesn't know what a circular argument is
gg vlad

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Did you just pick a random article that had 'Abrams' in it?

According to you.
According to you.

Link a single video of his that can't be picked apart for factual inaccuracy, intellectual dishonesty or outright lies.

Thankyou user
Fuck off vodka nigger, least you could do is spell it right

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Start at the beginning. I will wait. I know you won't/can't anyway.

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>official yellow ball of russian lost the arguement has been posted.

Still no facts, figures or expert opinion posted. Oh wait, they was. By Blacktail defense.

GG EZ

Imagine being a modern MBT and having an L/44 gun.

Methinks it be time for Vatnik Bingo

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I think "fatnik" on there should be updated to mutt. Although that would probably be a free space for this or yuropoor bingo

Your ass is not an informed source.

Chicken fucking Nugger, Checked and kekd

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>t. will go on 3 hours about how there are no facts, will still claim same shit in next thread when disproven
Russia was a big mistake.

I pray for nuclear war.
Leaving fate humanity in hands of brazilians and australians would be terrible price, but well worth paying for world without russians.

Amen to that.

Geheimnisvolle Superkanone
Rätsel gibt Experten die Zerstörung eines US-Panzers im Irak auf. Der "Abrams"-Tank wurde bei einer Kontrollfahrt im vorigen August mit einer bisher unbekannten Munition glatt durchschossen.

Secret Superweapon
Experts are baffled by the destruction of an US-Tank in Iraq. The "Abrams"-Tank was shot through by a still unknown muition on a patrol last august.

article is from 29.3.2004

stop making this thread, back to Jow Forums

freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/880826/posts

Russian Cornetos might be the culprit

youtube.com/watch?v=y5xKCzdhAC8

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>Russian Cornetos

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You guys do know that APCR is still a sub-caliber munition, right? The actual core of the round is smaller than most long-rod penetrators in use today. The hole would be relatively tiny, almost like a HEAT shell (albeit minus the external explosive effects against the armor plates face).

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The Murrican quantum deflector railguns where down it doesnt count xDDDDDD!!!!

Am I funny? I said the funny words!

Thinking of taking my vacation in the Abrahamas. How's the weather in Summer?

looks to be just the blowout p..panel....i...its totally not the crew being burned alive.

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Sure, link a video of his to review that you think will pass scrutiny.

>yoda irl

YIKES

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>You guys do know that APCR is still a sub-caliber munition, right?

Idiot.

This. If a third world shithole like Russia can produce a tank that completely outclasses amerigarbage, then what chance do they stand against Chinese tanks?

Because he is a verified Russian shill using a proxy to change his IP address to Scottish one. The proof of this is a litany of Wikipedia changes along anti Russian politicians and American equipment by the same IP address that modified the M1 Abrams wikipage to read M1 Abrahams. Further accedotal evidence shows a predilection for this individual to conduct similar behavior over multiple different image boards. In short Abrahams-tard is the most recent evolution of Armartard. Evidence of wiki changes shall be provided forthwith.

youtube.com/watch?v=ULC0TOiZZzc

The series starts there.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/24.52.231.99
Shilling evidence.

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>when your president is shorter than a jew

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Shouldn't you be sucking on Putin's circumcised cock?

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>but muh baste putin

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>this exact thread
>again
Why are you retards not sageing

>when your president is a homosexual

what a faggot

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Why do we not have mods that read the report system?

Because gookmoot doesn't care to employ decent mods, he just sits back and collects adrev while adding malware to the site

how does it feel getting cucked by chinks

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>getting mogged by a chink

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This is golden, glad you posted that.

List of what else he edited with that IP.

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Holy shit lol a real 50кoп. poster

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sabots dont exit, they go inside and bounce around causing extensive spalling that kills everyone and disables the vehicle.

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kek'd

>Iraq
>air support
What

Because my time is utterly worthless I'll go through the whole video.
Just starting out, good lord this presentation is awful. Could he not afford a mic? And WTH is with the UT music?

>1:14
The Abrams at the time of this video had Sabot, Canister, Multipurpose HEAT, and demolition rounds, while being able to use any round developed for the RH120. So, wrong.
>1:22
This has nothing to do with the tank itself, more to do with differing defense budget priorities.
>1:42
It was also used more heavily than any other tank. JFC this is basic statistics here. Also, this is a minor point but no other tank would fare better in the conditions the Abrams faced in Iraq.
>2:00
Mobility means more than just raw speed, and the Abrams' range is not that much lower than other vehicles.
>2:07
Again, it's maybe a ton or two heavier than its contemporaries . The CR2 with Theater entry standard armor is also around 10 tons heavier, making his claim incorrect.
>2:35
This is because the Army doesn't need them. There are other tanks that actually have readiness issues (Looking at you, Ariete), the Abrams isn't one of them.
>2:47
It is not the most expensive tank, nor does it cost 10 million.
>2:53
Wrong, and it doesn't really matter either. Plenty of fine tanks haven't sold on the export markets.
>3:14
WTF is he even talking about here? Of course destroying tanks is the most important mission of the Abrams, that doesn't mean it's useless for anything else-or that we use some idiotic interwar doctrine.
>3:32
Not the only thing based on outright lies here.
>3:42
Forget about the Arjun, did we?
>3:54
because it's a fucking great tank, and you've failed to demonstrate otherwise.

Well, that was a disappointing video. Few morsels of truth used to draw idiotic conclusions, outright lies, and misrepresented or misunderstood information. Not to mention- No sources!
TLDR: If you take anything this guy says seriously you're an idiot.

US air support
They attacked it after it was abandoned, so nothing could be used by the enemy.

no that's .22

American air support. The Abrams was disabled by enemy fire, so after the crew abandoned it it was shot once by another Abrams and then had a Maverick fired at it to deny the enemy access to it or any of the electronics inside

and the warhead blast radius is 1 mile, but the radiation reaches 5.

>fucking destroying a video so hard it turns into 144p quality out of shame
Youtube now wants money from the author every time someone has to warch this piece of shit.

>not a 105mm charge necked down to .22 for hypersonic armor penetration

>not having a basic understanding of Abrams causalities
>not realizing that there have only been 23 non-export Abrams taken out ALL by IEDs
>and only one of those cases where the crew died was because it flipped and they drowned
At least learn some basic knowledge about tanks before spewing trash out of your mouth
(Btw the U.S.A.F took out this Abrams in the picture shown)

Just doing the one video?
>The Abrams at the time of this video had Sabot, Canister, Multipurpose HEAT, and demolition rounds, while being able to use any round developed for the RH120. So, wrong.
Lies and no proofs.
>This has nothing to do with the tank itself, more to do with differing defense budget priorities.
So the tank procurement was shit and bloated and wasteful
>It was also used more heavily than any other tank. JFC this is basic statistics here. Also, this is a minor point but no other tank would fare better in the conditions the Abrams faced in Iraq.
Figures were adjusted to take that into account
>Mobility means more than just raw speed, and the Abrams' range is not that much lower than other vehicles.
But still lower
>Again, it's maybe a ton or two heavier than its contemporaries
A ton is a lot. It can be the difference between a bridge holding and a bridge collapsing after the third tank roll over
>It is not the most expensive tank, nor does it cost 10 million.
Wrong and proofs?
>Wrong, and it doesn't really matter either. Plenty of fine tanks haven't sold on the export markets.
"We-we didn't w-ewant to sell it anyway baka!"
>Not the only thing based on outright lies here
Were are the proofs?
>because it's a fucking great tank, and you've failed to demonstrate otherwise.
It's shit and you have posted no proofs or sources.

You have failed. The next video is youtube.com/watch?v=SWG6Tp04Nnk

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The difference is that you are alone with that opinion and he simply aint. But please go on and present yourself as the desperate retard you are, that has nothing but his empty words, that have no meaning beside for himself, sure will help. Go on vatnik, dance your little dance for us.

So is the current theory that the export abrams is actually so offbrand it deserves its own name. The "Abraham."
Any proof for this? Seems interesting