What's the best rifle for arctic conditions?

What? Why would you think that? Henry all weathers in 45-70 are one of the most referred guns on here for artic work

valmet, galil

scribd.com/doc/215884687/SWAT-Extreme-Cold-Weather-Test-April-1986

I would imagine the AK does alright considering it gets cold as fuck in Russia and Russia has stuck with that platform for decades. If it didn't work in the cold I would imagine they would have tried another design by now.

>requirement, folding stock
>majority of weapons tested don't have folding stock
Made me laugh

>lee enfield
>ak’s
>arctic warfare rifles
>lever gats
Yes, if it doesn’t freeze the parts it’ll fuck up the lube. That’s not to say a weapon will become completely inoperable the second it hits below zero, because that is a lie and I shot air rifles in those temperatures, but some guns handle the cold a lot better than others.

Nugget

Nugget.

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AKs 100%
>Can be easily mortar cycled or stomp cycled if action gets stuck
>Way over gassed; will cycle through seizing Frost and cold.

Thanks. I've been wondering.

My rifle

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That is the best rifle for the trash can.

Read the '80s Alaskan swat cold weather trials

Spoiler: AKs (Galils and a Velmet) do the best

They concluded that the .223 Galil was the best option of the tested weapons

Stay pleb.

>I would imagine yes, and if the lube you use dosen't freeze or acts like a water magnet.

you run guns dry in arctic temps. don't even bring them inside with you into heated areas, leave them in the cold.

Screw your optics

AR

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>What's the best rifle for arctic conditions?
An AK. Everything else is suspect. And an AR-15 would be at the bottom of the list since that piece of shit can't even function well in heavy rain.

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It's been rumored that AR-15 stands for arctic rifle because of its reliability in cold weather.

Imagine thinking you know better than leafs and their top tier arctic proof ARs

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I would take a Big Loop Stainless Steel Leverghat

Ever had your action freeze shut? I have. Canuck here.

no. see

This is true. Also AWP stands for Assault Weapon, Phaggot.

>What's the best rifle for arctic conditions?

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Yeah ok guy. Wasn't the lube that froze up.

>G3 charging handle breaks off
Its a good read.

ARs work fine sub zero. If you manage 30 or so below overgassing will make it work, and replace plastics with metals (or better plastic)

it was condensation that occurred from change in temperature.

AK's were tested down to -134f

I'd imagine it might affect some types of automatics that rely on gas. Other than that, ammunition that uses more temp sensitive powder might not be hot enough to cycle a gun as reliably made potentially worse by a frozen action

From being outside for a week? Perhaps it was blown snow and sleet building up and then, shocker, the temp dropping.

Its almost as if you knew the problem and it was preventable and it was easily fixed. But you just like being that little shit don't you?

According to Norway, it's the 1917 Enfield. They use semi-sporterized 1917s for their Sirius Sled Dog Patrol in the arctic.

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Seems Odd. Tightly sealed actions with oil/grease would not freeze as water wouldn't condense/ get in the action to the same extent as a loose tolerance gun.

That said the AK is supposed to be really good in the arctic (Siberia is cold) so what the fuck do I know.

Holy shit really? Link?

>ARs work fine sub zero
Bull-fucking-shit. Even Canadians had to modify it so it somewhat works in Arctic conditions.

>>TOO ALL BOLT ACTION POSTERS

Galil, Valmet, Lee Enfield Mk.III No.I, nugget, mauser k98.

enjoy your larping

I'm pretty sure recoil-operated guns would be the most fucked, since they have a ton of moving surface area for ice to condense on.

ottawacitizen.com/news/national/defence-watch/new-rifles-for-the-canadian-rangers-now-being-delivered

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hes gonna drop it into the drink isnt he

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If the rifle was used by the Finns or Russia it works in the cold....

You ask about arctic and post an antarctic picture. I don't think they allow guns in Rothera.
Anyway don't my mind me, I have severe autism.

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Valmets are the slickest AKs. The M71 action is so buttery smooth. It makes the AK guys I know just cream themselves.

That said, I think a C7/C8 or Valmet would be my choice. Maybe a good FAL. No because I’m not a useless shitpump.
>t.-ex 1Pats

IIRC Greenlander sled patrol forces use the 1917 Enfield to this day. I figure that should tell you something.

is it even possible to get a valmet in the US

Sure can. You’ll pay out the ass for it though. Still, it’s about as good as an AK gets, quality-wise.

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feels a little surreal seeing a Finnish warhorse being used by what I'm guessing is an Alaskan Native for hunting trips

If I were to ask someone this question logic follows that I would ask russians

Alaskan here.
That guy looks like an Alaskan native. Could totally be. But all natives in the far northern parts of the American continent look like that. from Alaska on the Pacific ocean to the islands off the coast of Canada in the Atlantic.
>Inb4 different tribes
If you can tell the difference between a Tlingit, athabaskan, or aleut just by looking at them I'll deed you my house.

Even the natives of Greenland live similarly to Alaskan natives. I'm not sure how similar they are appearance wise because I've never been there. But a Finnish rifle held by what looks to be an eskimo might not have had to travel too far.

I love that rifle buts two thousand dollars in the states...yikes!

In some of the field trainings we had in the Finnish DF it was around -30 celsius or colder and the RK worked just fine if you were careful with bringing it to warm areas and back out in to the cold again.

FNC, Galil, RK 62/95, STGW90/SG550, probably some other AKs

>semi-sporterized 1917s
Some aren't altered at all.

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The FR F2 with its thermal sleeve.

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Definitely a flame thrower.

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What makes the enfield so good though?

>And an AR-15 would be at the bottom of the list since that piece of shit can't even function well in heavy rain
Why lie on the internet?

He gets paid rubles to do it

Czechloslovakia

Fuck you

Have used a G3 in - 45°C way above the arctic circle for a few years. Never had an issue.

Leaf here we use lee enfields or C7's with grapite(graphene?)powder instead of oil

why lee enfields?

The oil in c7 gets to cold and it wont cycle as easy while the lee enfield is manually cycled so you dont get the issues. This was taught in BMQ but it could be complete bullshit.

Doesn't every bolt action manually cycle though? What's different about the lee enfield?

We have a ton of them left over still.

Oh, right, so it's just an ease of access thing?

Pretty. Where's this?

Pretty much. We are really cheap I have kit issued to me that was in the korean war. A guy ik has a kill count on his bucket think it was like 46 or something.

>According to Norway,
oh come on man, the flags right fucking there! get it right

Bump, dis good thread

You're supposed to manually cycle the action every so often so that doesn't happen.

>bolt-action, so less moving parts
>cock on close, so requires less leverage to open the bolt

I'm a brainlet, what do you mean by "cock on close"?

Cock on close: you cycle the bolt, and the pin cocks when you close the bolt.

Cock on open: you raise the bolt, and that cocks the pin.

Galil ARM, and the Valmet M62
1986 SWAT Cold Weather Rifle Testing: imgur.com/gallery/uLfvt

>>What's the best rifle for arctic conditions?

Marlin 95

Nein. Thats from some show that follows Alaskan natives on hunting trips. He and his wife drop animals with the Finn nugget.

Damn, absolutely comfy /out/-tier pic famalam

AK

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depends. if the rifle has adjustable gas pressure, its fine as long as you keep it in good shape, but thats not as easy as it sounds. thats my experience herding around americans above the arctic circle anyway...

youtube.com/watch?v=KSvmEFZDcqg

Cock on close is so awkward though, having to push and compress the spring before you can turn the bolt.

It took some getting used to for me, for sure. Oddly enough, it's smoother to cycle when I shoot the gun than when I cycle the bolt on empty.

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