Are there any 'gunsmiths' in the business of fully custom firearms...

Are there any 'gunsmiths' in the business of fully custom firearms? Someone you could approach with an original idea that they can help build from the ground up?

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short answer
>no
realistic answer
>no

fully custom guns exist but even Holland and Hollands and similar are based on established patterns. You're essentially asking to reinvent the wheel.

Eh. What I want is a bolt action .44 magnum with a tube magazine. It's not so much completely 100% custom as figuring out how to make two extant systems meet in the middle.

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>tube feed, bolt action, loading gate .44 mag
Heck heckin’ yes! You could sooner have a rifle in you hands if you commissioned a .44 mag rolling block or
Martini, realistically speaking

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>.44 Vetterli
Ah, I see you are a man of culture as well.

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buy an old ruger model 44. It's a .44mag carbine but it's semi automatic so not completely fucking retarded like your idea.
>inb4 but to like do it and stuff and junk bro
a tube fed straight wall cartridge bolt action isn't exactly complex, it's just pointless.
ignore him

there is a fucking reason the vetterli is from 1870. The concept you've discovered is from the turn of the last century and thoroughly eclipsed.

he’s not looking for a tactical cowboy rifle, he wants something fun as fuck to dick around with. You see, in America we can afford to have things beyond necessities and actually enjoy our lives in unique ways as individuals.

>in america
>wants a shitty french bolt action rifle design from the 19th century in a pistol caliber
that is if anything a suspiciously eurocuck desire.

There's a ruger no. 3 in .44 magnum. Quite rare but easier than getting this done. I'd still like a repeater.

Doesn't necessarily have to be a vetterli action, it is the closest thing to what I want in the real world though. I'm sure you could get it working with a mauser-type action if you really tried.

I don't care about practicality. It would tickle my autism in all the right ways. Here's a stupid concept thing I made in MS paint.

I am very American. You're kind of betraying your ignorance by saying "French". I own enough ARs to grow bored of them now and then. Calm down.

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Find an engineer or engineering firm and pay them 30K or more to design a concept, then pay a machine shop 5-10K to construct a prototype. Rapid prototyping is expensive when you don't have a big corporate budget to subsidize and internalize costs.

Sounds awesome. I want a .44 magnum jungle carbine but I have no idea what kind of custom bolt head would be required.

I already have all the major parts for a .223 jungle carbine, including the special bolt head. If there were some way to use the original bolt head for .44 I'd set it up so the barrels can be interchanged.

now that is actually pretty fucking aesthetic but it's still a dumb idea. why not a colt lightning style pump action rifle in .44mag instead.
>originally made in .44-40
>a .44 special or .45lc version literally wouldn't even need a redesign

as for a .44mag rifle a short action bolt gun is definitely attainable. Ruger has one as a production model of the model77
ruger.com/products/77Series7744/models.html

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>john browning invented literally everything with no college education
>now you need an engineering degree to even think of designing a gun yourself
how do I become a genius? I just want a break action .357 that won't explode.

Would you settle for Thai mausers in .45-70?

>I just want a break action .357 that won't explode.
They already exist, you're just not willing to pay the price.

John Browning literally invented the machinegun with a chopped up winchester repeater, a piece of junk metal, and a string.

Learn the pressure tolerances of the metals you're using to rig up a gun and the ammunition you want to use. Learn proper safety precautions and then go nuts, don't worry about rifling or any of the complicated shit until you have something that works.

All this shit can be found on the internet, and I'm sure there's a few books from the do/k/ument that can help you out.

READ NIGGA, READ!

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I thought the only modern design was that russian one that got cancelled because of bill clinton

Anderson-Wheeler Mark VII. Prepare to cry.

unironically
>git gud scrub

also just about every production firearm uses the same concepts and actions, you were born about a century late because why reinvent the wheel when you can just beat the dead horse and using a browning tilt barrel. mauser action, star bolt, and/or gas delayed blowback.

Beretta learned this the hard way with the rotating barrel locking mechanism on the PX4 that no one bought
>then cranked out the APX which is a basic bitch glock clone contract chaser pistol

>ywn be the intratec/keltec mad gun autist
>ywn do a fat line of coke and announce your latest vaporware gun design to release it 10 years later in small batches at ridiculously inflated prices

Someday, someone is going to make knockoffs of all these overpriced British guns just to fuck these limeys into the ground.

Anything is possible with time and money. And you're going to need a lot of the latter if you don't have the knowledge and access to the means to make your idea a reality.

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There are still fucking thousands upon thousands of Webleys knocking around. The cheap end of the market is well catered for.

let me know if you find one - I need an AR10 barrel and bolt to fit 7.62x54R

I could get a tube magazine bolt gun in .45-70, if I really wanted to. Expensive but they exist. Pic related.

I want pretty much exactly what I pictured here Thinking of everything in terms of practicality is just fucking boring my dude. I want one because it would look cool, be fun, and do a lot of things I want it to do in the way I'd like to do them. If I could have a factory pumping them out tomorrow, maybe it wouldn't be commercially successful, but I bet you i'd sell a decent number just for the novelty. From people looking for something new or different. I could spin more than a few marketing reasons to buy it, even if at the end of the day everyone should just buy an AR-15 because nothing will ever be better at doing as many things as it does.

It's got a nice form factor. High capacity without functionally taking up any additional space - you couldn't get the capacity with a rotary mag and a box magazine wouldn't work. It's entirely self contained - no magazine to lose. Great "truck gun". You can load it as hot as you want. You can top up the magazine as you go, so you can carry loose cartridges.

And you're right, it's no different than a lever gun from a purely functional standpoint. But you know, it's got a completely different image than a lever gun. Not everyone wants to feel like a cowboy. People like marlin have quality control issues now. Gun control might make tubular magazines more relevant in the future, and people might want bolt-gun options.

At the end of the day I think it would just be really fucking cool.

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And to anything said about practicality and success in the firearms market, just look at the fucking shockwaves flying off the shelves. The market is stagnated. People are bored. They want something new. Look at phones. It's all about marketing and image.

There was this one company but the owner is in prison for fucking his daughter or something.
Here’s a hint. “Neva been done before”

You can't afford it.

This is a project that would take an experienced gunsmith months- at his shop rate of $90+/- hr. Tube feed is harder than a box mag- even with the rim.

Call a gunsmith who is an actual manufacturer and ask him for a spitball quote. When he gets back up off the floor from laughing, it'll be at least $20,000, and I'll eat my hat if that gets you a working example.

1) You could convert a Mosin-Nagant to .44 mag- it's been done.
2) You could just shut the fuck up and buy a Marlin Model 1894 in .44 mag.
3) You could buy a Used Ruger .44 mag Carbine semi-auto, and you'd have a gun that will be increasingly desireable, light, and fast as hell in the brush.
4) I'd keep an eye out for a Ruger #3- they turn up since the goofy carbine buttplate turns people off.
5) You could rebarrel just about any bolt action to .44 AMP, which is more or less a rimless .44 magnum, made form .308 brass. This a reload-only proposition, but cool.. Pick a superlight action,

6) Remington made bolt-action 788's back in the '70's and 80's in .44 mag, but magazines are hard to come by, and only 3 round capacity.

Could convert a nugget to .44, and replace the bottom metal with a sort of mini chassis/lower receiver that houses the lifter, cartridge stops and magazine from a pump action .410.
The hardest part would probably be making the bolt actuate the lifter and stops

>Are there any gunsmiths/shops that make fully custom firearms?
Yes, but they usually do shotguns or African game rifles. Exquisite and expensive as all fuck, and you're not likely to get that kind of design input, but you can damn well try.

That kind of business requires the same licensing and ITAR bullshit as, say, FN or Ruger.

Absolutely. My LGS has a custom pump action 500 S&W, next time I'm in there I'll find out who made it.

This person is salty that they aren't as loaded as OP

Modern gunsmithing is just cleaning and adding accessories. No one will touch anything outside of the norm because, frankly, they can't.

Sounds cool
Maybe you could somehow convert a Lebel to 44 mag?

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The side loading gate is important, a Lebel is finicky to load.

Yes there are
But you would have to pay a lot
Even more if you can't make proper engineering drawings
Noone will say I don't want your money, they will say our machines and engineers cost so much per hour
I'll build one for you if you pay enough.

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