Is being a pilot based and redpilled?

Looks like someone's poisoned the water hole.

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Scat paradise

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>Get stuck in the AF for 10 years minimum, 20 years to get retirement to make it worth it.
>Never get to fly ever
>When you do its always to strict flight plans
>Every fighter jock is an egotistical manlet

Nah, its probably the most cringe and bluepilled job

t. Civvie pilot

Dysentery outbreak?

>egotistical manlet
are they in psychosis or? how does a manlet have anything but a shattered ego?

Because they get to live out their top gun fantasies and lord it over civvies who dont know any different.

Every (modern )fighter jock I've come across is usually a manlet with a huge ego, though the Vietnam era fighter and bomber guys are always the coolest people you will ever meet.

>though the Vietnam era fighter and bomber guys are always the coolest people you will ever meet.
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It's the exact opposite of my experience. Fighter dudes are usually complete bros. I stumbled into a bar once at Osan filled with F-16/A-10 pilots, had a great night they didn't even care I was a lowly E-3 at the time.

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I dunno, maybe it's because I'm a civvie and not part of the "sekkrit club" or something, but they always come off as being kind of aloof.

Though it could just be because I go to an aviation school full of zoomers and they feel that they can strut around and show off to the teenagers or something. However, to be fair i've never hung out with the people before, so maybe I'm just being overly judgemental.

To be fair the military lures you in thinking you'll be some unique hero warrior. Once in the military, you got your cool uniform and sick job..and then you look to the left and right and everyone is just like you. Being a fighter pilot in the Air Force must not be as cool as being a former fighter pilot outside of the Air Force. Because after all, when you are surrounded by people who do the same shit you do, what's there to brag about?

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Is signing a 10 year contract to be a fighter worth it? Im almost done with my college degree in comp sci

Depends on what you want.

I recommend it if you are looking for a career in aviation.

Also you don't get guaranteed fighters. You could go to rated slot and fly dog shit out of Hong Kong because the Academy grads get better picks.

Also, it's not 10 years of flying. You'll be put into bullshit duties like safety office and jalapeno popcorn monitor.

Yeah, that's probably it. Most of the pilots ive talked to are long retired from the service, so i'd imagine they feel they dont have anything to prove or something.

I'd recommend against it if you want a career in aviation after you get out. Mostly because the whole system works on seniority no matter how experienced you are, so some 20 something would outrank you even though you have tons of experience, and the FAA makes you retire at 65, so that's 10-20 years shaved off your career.

kys

Air Force can pay for your PPL, commercial, multi engine etc its a good deal if you play your cards right. There is a reason why the Air Force is having horrible pilot retention rates right now...the career outside is lucrative.

Abso-fucking-lutely
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Worked as a driver for a company that drove commercial pilots to and from a hotel when they had longer layovers. 99.9% were former military pilots.

Most pilots are pretty much grown up frat boys.

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Yes, but it sucks.
Shit pay, long hours, and you don't get to fly as much as you think.

what's the chance of becoming a pilot when you enter the air force? is it a communism group of "everyone that wants to be qualified can and anyone qualified gets 2 hours per month to fly a plane"? Or is it a "You must be in at least the top 10% of the class and be top fit to barely even fly"?

Trust me, you don't have to worry about making the cut.

Im not asking because i have hopes of joining. Im just curious of what is the specifics of making you qualified to fly in the USAF.

>You must be in at least the top 10% of the class and be top fit to barely even fly
Bingo.
Not to mention that you have to be a commissioned officer on top of it. The USAF doesn't have a WO program like the Army where just anyone can walk off the streets and work their way up to it.
If you do make it then you're also not guaranteed to even pilot any real aircraft... You might end up working with drones and making power points for the majority of your contract.
It's also worth noting that as you go up in rank in those 10 years, you're going to be flying less and less while still being expected to work overtime, accept less pay than a civilian pilot, and deal with the good ol' boys in command instead of living out your Red Baron or Top Gun fantasies.

The whole thing is just a bizarre shitshow.

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Nah I'll enjoy flying in the civilian world.

Right. So basically you have to finish a college degree, be super fucking smart and get 100% on all creds, and then MAYBE be lucky enough to be picked to be a pilot, and then you get sometimes picked a few hours to fly because your daddy isn't a super high ranking officer?

And yeah, i did expect that the actual pilots are less and less, kinda obvious considering not only the drones, but the fact that unconventional warfare is becoming more popular, and with it, helicopters are becoming more important, and that we aren't in an actual time of complete war which would deem many potential pilots to fly.

>So basically you have to finish a college degree
Yes, and preferably one that will help you through OTS and looks good on paper.
>be super fucking smart and get 100% on all creds
There can be room for averageness, but it would help if you studied enough to where your grades are passing and knowledge of the subjects comes as second nature. Anything that will help you through OTS.
>MAYBE be lucky enough to be picked to be a pilot
That'll be on you.
Did you study enough, did you manage your time correctly in OTS, did you come out on top of the others in terms of grades/scoring, etc.
Some will call it luck and others will call it hard work.
>and then you get sometimes picked a few hours to fly because your daddy isn't a super high ranking officer?
It depends, but (hopefully) not due to nepotism.
There's just too many factors to give a definitive answer.

If you want to fly and you're of college age, thinking about it at this late date, I'd suggest going through the Army's warrant officer program.

If you fly heavies than you basically get your ATP for free and fly near constantly.

Yes, i already do assume that it would be easier to join the flying wing, of any branch that isn't the air force, and a little bit easier if we count helicopters in.

And being able to fly in a carrier group in the navy is all of this difficulty x2, right? or is it just about the same but less people decide to do it?

>what is the specifics of making you qualified to fly in the USAF
Graduate the academy with good grades, be able to do 72 push ups in a minute, and watch the teeth.

>And being able to fly in a carrier group in the navy is all of this difficulty x2, right?
Sort of, but the navy does guaranteed pilot contacts, so you know before you commission whether you have a chance at a flight slot.

>preferably one that will help you through OTS
If you go to OTS you are not getting a pilot slot. There's thousands of academy graduates and AFROTC cadets who not only get looked at for selection first, but outclass you in every way

Therein lies the point.

>tfw we'll never see a time again where older, less educated young men will have a shot at becoming pilots
It hurts...

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>you cannot be a pilot cause you are not a manlet.

>older, less educated young men
Would you like to try again, user?

Nope, because once you've past a certain age you're fucked even when you're still young

Shitty non-western country here
I major in aerospace engineering and this shit's depressing. We're still trying to make our planes turn better and go faster and training our pilots in dogfighting tactics when the rest of the world is going BVR stealth
Fucks sake the professors still think modern fighters use turbojets
I would never want to be a pilot here

>bitches about strict flight plans
>is a civie pilot

cant make this shit up user

What nation?

t. same situation, but in Sweden

Taiwan
Good to see first world countries with the same problem

We really dont have the same issues tho, we just dont have any funding

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>flight plans
Who are they filed with? The agency?

So does the Air National Guard, which is all around a better deal. And the Marine Corps.

I like the Gripen. The airframe is perhaps a bit overtaxed as a multirole platform, but its good for what it is.

I think Taiwan is better suited to a REALLY well developed integrated air defense system (IADS), not so much an air force to depend on for local air dominance.

No since you're operating on a very tight leash and will do anything to keep your wings.

Fake and gay

Well if you get to fly then it certainly is but it used to be a gorillion times better back in the day

But you get to bomb brown people and civilians, so...