According to the Chinese news agency Sina, the main reason for the refusal low efficiency and high price of SU-35
“The Indian side is interested in buying of 110 American F-16V fighter jets. We were forced to abandon the acquisition of Russian aircraft because of their low efficiency. In fact, compared to the US, Russian fighters are a stone age." - India press
The acquisition of 110 US F-16 fighters will cost India’s budget only $ 6 billion, while the purchase of Russian Su-35 fighters twice as expensive
>Polish "MiG-29" I mean if you have only ever maintained toilets in your entire life maintaining even a monkey model Fulcrum can take its toll on the airframe and engines.
Jace Turner
vatnik BTFO!!!!!!
they should have just reverse engineered american jet internals and stuck them into migs. LMFAO!!
Michael Johnson
>India refused to buy Russian fighter jets.
Because they are shit. Because the su57 was flying junk. Because they are high maintenance crap with inferior metallurgy
Adam Hall
who said anything about polish migs u dumb fuck kacapie?
Evan Hernandez
>abloo abloo These are Flankers of the former Soviet Westerna Army Group in Germany, that Krauts pushed down the polish toilet.
Connor Baker
>I was under the impression India was doubling down on the Tejas however They are only pursuing it as a point of pride, nothing more than token orders will be placed. The damn thing has only a 850km range (less than an hour of endurance) with no combat load!
>hey should have just reverse engineered american jet They just can't. The development of science and engineering ended in the 80s in the USSR. All that Russia does is split on old Soviet developments for as new.
Dominic Gonzalez
The picture in the post I responded to. Holy shit, are you having a mental breakdown there? Are you the same retard from the Bear thread who thought Su-27s were NATO jets?
Aiden Flores
>The acquisition of 110 US F-16 fighters will cost India’s budget only $ 6 billion, while the purchase of Russian Su-35 fighters twice as expensive The F-16V is a great choice for shit-tier countries that don't deserve the F-35. AESA radar and several other improvements, much better than the Su-35 for sure.
Juan Bell
whatever, dumb fuck kacapie
Brody Ortiz
They were making the Indians send their engines all the way back to russia to be repaired. Apparently Russia wants to operate Like apple computers. You pay them to fix your shit that they should fix for free.
Adrian Lee
What's that, a Russian tourist refused to pay in dollars instead of Euro again?
Russia is trying to sell its most 'advanced' design to India half of Russia's own 700 odd fighter aircraft are effectively obsolete. In fact its highly likely that Russia is vastly inflating the number of aircraft that have serviceable airframes or engines.
Its worth comparing that to just the EU NATO nations
Italy has 78 Typhoons 75 F35s on order Another 60 tornados France has over a hundred rafales and over a hundred mirage 2000s Bongs have over 100 typhoons and another 50 tornados Spanish have 70 F18s and another 50 typhoons dutch have another 60 F16s, poles have another 50 Belgians another 50 F16s, Danish another 30 F16s, Norway another 48 F16s and 16 F35s, Portuguese another 24. Now I'm leaving old the old soviet junk. The best half of the Russian f force is outclassed right there. Not even bringing Germany, hungary etc into the equation. Italy, Spain, France and the UK could fuck the Russian air force on their own quite plausibly and realistically.
The Russians have just over a hundred SU34s 71 Su35s, everything else they have, su30s and su27s literally dates back to the 1980s soviet era. The F16s alone can take on the best that Russia has to offer, the F35s, Typhoons and Rafales would fuck them out of the sky like .
We have not even brought US air power based in Europe into the equation, or places like Greece, Hungary, Germany etc. Then Russia just becomes a complete fucking joke. So why are we talking about Russia and its shit pit military tech that has repeatedly failed to dominate western air assets for 30 years. Well, the Russian population needs to believe Russia is more than it is. a borderline failed state that only gets any attention because of its bellicose and mindless behaviour. The real question that the west has to ask is the moral question of whether it is better to eliminate Russia in entirety or expect future generations to have to waste time confronting its endless threats to destroy the world in nuclear Armageddon.
samefag...by the way I underestimated the euro advanced fighter inventory, the likes of the Spanish and Italians have more typhoons delivered and supposedly in service . Of course the economies of Germany, France, Spain and Italy collectively dwarf Russia, without even brining in Belgium, Netherlands, Norway, Denmark etc
Its worth getting some perspective on here with the incessant vatnik noise on just how shit Russia is. The average Russian earns less than 500 dollars a month, about a third of them don't have access to an indoor toilet and most drinking water outside major cities (which is largely unfit for drinking) is got from a communal well with a plastic bucket. Its international 'allies' are collapsing tin pot shit pits like cubs, Venezuela, Iran, North Korea. Its a has been completely eclipsed economically and demographically by China. Even then the Chinese airforce is not much better and on a par with russias. You can loose sight of that with the endless stream of RT garbage. The western nations , the US and EU own the planet, economically and militarily as well as culturally via the internet, music, cinema, literature and heritage. This is largely because places like china and Russia are authoritarian kleptocraies that have undergone extreme tyranny where they eliminate their own cultures, heritage, religions and contact with the rest of the globe. The US and EU own the world, somewhere far beneath them is China and far far beneath china is Russia, floating about with places like brazil and south korea, with the worst of both. Its in decline, isolated and practically collapsing under the weight of an aging autocrat and his thieving friends. I personally think it should be eliminated. The west has lived with Russians pointlessly targeting western civilians en mass for 70 years with nukes. Its moral cowardice to let Russia to continue to exist to do the same to future generations. We made an excuse, but it was not communism. Its russians
Dominic King
Remember when communism collapsed in Russia, something entirely of the Russia populations own doing in creating and failing with while exporting the cold war an weapons globally along with their toxic 'Marxist-leninist' hate cult, the west actually send these pathetic fuckers billions in aid and debt write offs. Yet here they are pretending like the cold war is on and that places like Poland or the Baltics are unreasonable for remembering their jack booted police state authoritarianism and gangsterism. What do they do? Develop new generations of nukes to target western civilians. Its time that Russia was eliminated forever. In fact if we want to seethe human race thrive, prosper and expand beyond this planet its a necessity. They had their chance. Turn Russia off and leave future generations free of Russian tantrums about nuclear Armageddon. Go to pol and read the utter shit they spew, its all about getting people to hate each other.
Thomas Nguyen
India flip flops like crazy when they are buying weapons.
They did it to the French, they did it to the Americans, they did it to the Russians. They are one of the most corrupt nations in the world. Have you queers every dealt with a poo in the business capacity? They're worse than the slavs and the chinks, which are both horrible to deal with.
Aiden Collins
>angers the shit out of everyone. Lol, Russian delusions. Nobody gives a shit about you niggers losing the sale
Anthony Thompson
Makes sense that poeple who don't use toilets would know a rancid runny worthless shit when they see it.
The President’s Assistance Offer of December 1990. On December 12, 1990, in response to a Soviet request for urgent food and medical assistance, President Bush announced the first major U.S. assistance package. It included provision of up to $1 billion in Commodity Credit Corporation (CCC) credit guarantees for Soviet purchase of agricultural goods, authorization of up to $300 million in Export-Import Bank credits for purchase of U.S. goods (the maximum allowed under the 1974 Stevenson-Byrd amendment to the Export-Import Bank Act without further congressional approval), an offer of technical assistance to improve food distribution and implement other economic reforms, and a pledge of $5 million for a public-private medical assistance program to address Soviet shortages of medicine and medical supplies under the International Disaster Relief program.
On October 22, 1991, President Bush received a request from President Gorbachev for $2.5 billion in U.S. agricultural credit guarantees and $1 billion in CRS-5 humanitarian aid. USDA officials who made several needs assessment trips to the Soviet Union expressed the view that famine was unlikely in the Soviet Union, but that severe hardships were probable because of distribution problems and lack of cooperation among Soviet republics. U.S. Ambassador to the Soviet Union, Robert Strauss, on November 18, urged the United States to provide food and debt relief to the Soviets. On November 20, 1991, the Bush Administration offered a further aid package, including $1.25 billion in agricultural guarantees. The credit guarantees were made available in installments: $500 immediately and $750 million for early 1992.
30 years later Russians build new nukes to target American cities. Turn Russia off. Its the cancer in the bowel of the human race
Henry Bailey
>110 f-16s with literally fucking every upgrade is cheaper than a sukhoi
That's actually fucking impressive
Elijah Perez
At this time, the European Community (EC) was the major multilateral donor to the Soviet Union. On December 15, 1990, the EC pledged nearly $1 billion in food aid (one-third as grant, and two-thirds as credit guarantees) and about $1.4 billion in technical assistance for 1991 and 1992. In January 1991, it put a temporary hold on assistance to Moscow in response to the Baltic crackdown. But the EC aid program was resumed at the end of February, apparently based on the EC’s perception that the Soviets were easing military pressures in the Baltics. On October 7, 1991, the EC announced an additional $1.5 billion in food aid credits for the Soviet Union.
And here we are the same children that ere fed by EU and US charity because Russias 'marcist leninism' jack boot empire collapses are sitting posting every form of hate against the US and EU. Russia had its chance. Eliminate it.
Colton White
This means we may see pakistani F-16s dogfighting with Indian F16s
1992 First, the President announced U.S. participation in a multilateral G-7 $24 billion package of support for Russia. The U.S. contribution to that package was estimated at roughly $4.5 billion in old and new funds—a commitment of $1.5 billion toward a $6 billion ruble stabilization fund; $1 billion of $4.5 billion in IMF, World Bank, and European Bank for Reconstruction and Development (EBRD) loans, counted as part of the regular U.S. contribution to those organizations; and $2 billion of an $11 billion G-7 contribution in bilateral aid, largely composed of CCC credit guarantees, Eximbank loan guarantees, and some humanitarian assistance. Second, the President proposed legislation that would, in the words of Secretary of State Baker, “unite the executive and legislative branches around a bipartisan program that can mobilize the American people” in support of assistance for the former Soviet Union.
Look at what Russia is today. It needs its balls kicked in until they rupture
Parker Scott
Vancouver Summit Initiative. On April 4, 1993, immediately following his Vancouver summit meeting with Russian President Yeltsin, President Clinton announced a $1.6 billion package of U.S. assistance to Russia. All of the programs utilized FY1993 resources, and none of the funds required new appropriations from Congress. Of the total, $924 million — $700 million in Food for Progress Program agricultural loans, $194 million in food grants, and $30 million in medical and maternal/child health grants — was additional to that already designated for Russia and the FSU. Roughly $676 million was derived from FY1993 funds and programs previously expected to go to the FSU, if not for Russia specifically.
The world gave Russia a chance after Russia terrorised the world for 70 years. Its had its chance. Russia is back threatening Armageddon and developing new nukes to target western cities. It is time for Russia to face Armageddon on its own since it loves it so much
Cameron Harris
>“The Indian side is interested in buying of 110 American F-16V fighter jets. We were forced to abandon the acquisition of Russian aircraft because of their low efficiency. In fact, compared to the US, Russian fighters are a stone age." - India press
Cool story, but not 110, but 114, not $6 billions, but $20 billions and in general it's a (another) MMRCA over again with F-18, F-16, Rafale, Eurofighter, Grippen and Mig-35. Su-35 was included in the competition in a last moment.
Tyler Garcia
>In fact, compared to the US, Russian fighters are a stone age
Truth
Chase Mitchell
NO AID TO RUSSIA EVER AGAIN FROM THE US OR EU WITHOUT IMMEDIATE AND COMPLETE NUCLEAR DISARMAMENT. DISARMAMENT TO BEGIN IMMEDIATELY.
IF NO FAVORABLE RESPONSE FIRST STRIKE THEM OFF THE PLANET
Julian Rodriguez
>In fact, compared to the F-22A, Russian fighters are a stone age
Truth, but US doesn't sale F-22. F-16 and Su-35s are in different classes.
Samuel Sanchez
i bet this guy is from artillery, too many blasts made him not only deaf but also braindead
Josiah Gonzalez
O fuck off. A typhoon or f35 or raffle or mirage 2000 will fuckup su35s the only thing its ever shot down are mig-29s. Russia makes garbage and can't even modernise its own airforce most of which dates back to the 1980s.Just how often do western jets have to vaporise Russian deigned garbage in the last 30 years before you get it.
Jaxon Long
>i bet this guy is from artillery, too many blasts made him not only deaf but also braindead
I think leaving Russia to exist given its history of threatening global nuclear Armageddon and reverting to developing new nuclear weapons is moral cowardice and a curse on future generations. The Russian population freely decided to take death despair and hate their culture. Give them what they ask for and send them to hell..why should people in American and European cities ever spend another year with Russian nukes targeting them, ever again?
Jack Taylor
It's not about Russian own airforces, silly, it's about market and competition on an international market. Indian may get their own version of Su-35S with a technology transfer and customized French or Israel avionics. And those machines will be better than Russian models and better than Chinese models (the whole fucking point of letting them into the competition). If you buy Russian weapon, you get full service and full freedom of actions. When you buy American weapon you get a black box, you get contract restrictions and you get no guarantees that Congress wouldn't block delivery.
Christian Hill
One form of securing testimony used by the Russians is to hang a man by his wrists with bandages so they will not cut or marks will be left. Then, two small incisions made into the lower abdomen to allow a portion of the intestines to hang out. After the man has taken all that he can stand without dying. He is cut down , the incisions are sewn up, and he is restored to health with the promise that the operation will not be repeated If he does as he is told.
I believe that by taking a strong attitude the Russians,they will back down . We have already yielded too much to their mongolian nature.
There are all kins of low class slime who are trying and will continue to try to wreck this country from the inside. Most of them don't know it. but they are actually working for the Russians. Some of them do know it, though. It doesn't matter whether they call themselves communists, socialists, or just plain liberals. That is what thay are doing.
The Russians are mongols. They are Slavs and a lot of them used to be ruled by ancient Byzantium. From Genghis Kahn to Stalin. they have not changed. They never will and we will never learn, at least , not until it is too late.
.... If we have to fight them , now is the time,From now on , we will get weaker and they will get stronger.
The difficulty in understanding the Russians we do not take cognizance of the fact he is not a European, but an asiatic therefore thinks deviously. We can no more understand a Russian than Chinese or a Jepanese. From what I have seen of them I have no particular desire to understand them except to ascertain how much lead or iron it takes to kill them. In addition to his other amiable characteristics, the Russians have no regard for human life and they are all out son of bitches,barbarians and chronic drunks.
General Patton
Carter Gonzalez
>don't have access to an indoor toilet
I have relatives in Russia and Ukraine. The ones in Russia refuse to visit the ones in Ukraine because they think they'll be "burned alive" and whatever other shit they saw on TV. Anyway, some of those in Russia retired and decided to move outside of their North-Eastern shithole. They had a good amount of money saved up. Obviously the family in Ukraine were telling them to go there because the living standards are the same except that everything would be cheaper for them. Well no, obviously they don't want to be burned alive so they bought a house in Russia ("near" the Ukrainian border actually). They don't have fucking running water. In 2018. No running water. And it's not the shithole they moved from, it's the western part of Russia.
Russia isn't collapsing though. They've had a period of good economical growth, but it keeps going down because it's much easier to grow an economy when you already have the technology, infrastructure and education yet hit rock bottom. And if you're really optimistic and assume they'll end up doing as well as France or Germany, the cost of military equipment and manpower will increase drastically. And with the same portion of military spending as today, they'd still be behind China or the EU. Basically Russia can never reach the goal of being as power as the Soviet Union again, because the world has changed. They can try to be a big strong country, but they can't compete with China anymore, can't rival the western world, and will most likely fall behind rising powers like India. In fact they'll end up surrounded by these powers.
Luis Gonzalez
I love how India always starts shittalking if they don't get what they want.
Everyone who is forced to work with India knows that they are trash people believing they are kings.
Brayden King
As it stands, if things progress as they do, even the Nordic countries will overtake russia in the air. Norway and Denmark will field F-35s which will rape anything russia got with ease, Sweden fielding Gripen E armed with Meteors will curbstomp any russian jet. Finland is currently looking at new jets, any of the possible jets, be it a Euro triangle, super bug, F-35 or F-16 will readily defeat the crude and inferior jet that russia fields.
India is wise to distance themselves from a failing state such as russia, especially since russia will end up being a Chinese province within a few decades.
Expect a F-16 somehow worse than the vanilla F-16 with a decade delay and 10 times as expensive.
Mason Walker
This letter was written down by Dadin’s lawyer Alexei Liptser on October 31, 2016.
Nastya! If you decide to publish this information about what is happening to me, then try to distribute it as widely as possible. This will increase my chances of staying alive. Know that there is an entire mafia operating at penal colony 7. It involves the entire administration, among them the colony’s head Major Sergey Leonidovich Kossiev and the vast majority of its employees, including the doctors.
Upon my arrival at the colony on September 10, 2016, I had practically all of my things taken away from me. Two razor blades were then planted [amongst my remaining possessions] and subsequently “discovered” during an inspection. This is a common practice here—this gives them grounds to throw all newcomers into solitary confinement, to ensure they immediately understand the hell that they found themselves in. I was put into solitary without any official orders. All of my things were taken away, including soap, my toothbrush, toothpaste, and even toilet paper. In protest of these illegal activities, I went on a hunger strike. On September 11, 2016, the colony head Kossiev came to me with three employees. Together, they started beating me. Over the course of that day, I was beaten a total four times, by 10-12 people at once. They would kick me. After the third beating, they lowered my head into a toilet right there in the holding cell.
On September 12, 2016, [several] employees cuffed my hands behind my back and hanged me up by the handcuffs. Being suspended in this manner brought about terrible pain in the wrists, twisted out my elbows, and caused horrible back pain. I was suspended like that for half an hour. Then they took off my underwear and said they would bring another prisoner to rape me unless I stopped my hunger strike.
After that, I was brought to Kossiev’s office, where he said to me in the presence of other staff: "You have been beaten very little. If I give the order, you will be beaten much worse. If you try to complain, they will kill you and bury you under the fence." After that, they beat me regularly, several times a day. Regular beatings, bullying, humiliation, insults, intolerable detention conditions – this is happening with the other prisoners, as well.
All subsequent punishments were based on blatant lies. All of the videos in which I was being “penalized” were staged: before filming, they would tell me how to behave and what to do—not to argue, not to protest, to look at the floor, [etc.]. Otherwise, they said, they would kill [me] and no one would know about it, because no one knows where I am. I cannot send letters without going through the administration first, and the administration has promised to kill me if I write any complaints. Nastya, in my first letter from penal colony 7, I wrote to you about the European Court of Human Rights in order to circumvent censorship and give the slightest hint that I was not all right and that I needed help (Note from Anastasia Zotova: I did not receive any of Ildar’s letters from prison.)
I ask you to publish this letter, because there is a real “information blockade” in this place and I see no other opportunities to break through it. I am not asking you to get me out of here or to have me transferred to another facility. I have repeatedly seen and heard how other prisoners are being beaten, so my conscience will not allow me to run away from here. I am going to fight to help others. I am not afraid of death. Most of all, I am afraid not being able to withstand the torture and surrendering. If the Anti-torture Committee [a Russian human rights NGO] has not yet been destroyed in Russia, I ask for their assistance in ensuring my right to life and security and those of other prisoners in Russia.
Dominic Bennett
>Norway and Denmark will field F-35s which will rape anything russia got with ease Good thing that intermediate range ballistic missiles are prohibited, They could wipe out all Scandinavian airbases with all that F-35s for a couple of minutes. Reagan was a truly smart person, forced Russians to sign up that treaty.
Brandon Peterson
I ask to you to openly reveal that Major Kossiev has directly threatened to murder me for any attempt to complain about what is happening. I will be glad if you find an attorney who will be able to reside in Segezha and provide legal support.
Time is against me. Surveillance footage would be able to prove [that such] torture and beatings [are happening], but it is becoming less and less likely that such footage remains intact. If I am again subjected to torture, beatings, and rape, it is unlikely that I will last more than a week. In case of my sudden death, you may be told that I committed suicide, had an accident, was shot while trying to escape, or [died] fighting with another prisoner, but this would be a lie. [My murder] would have been planned in advance to eliminate witnesses and victims of torture.
I love you and I hope to see you someday. Your Ildar
Nathan Hernandez
>according to chinese news agency >believing dog eating subhumans Come on Jow Forums, you're better than this
Thomas Brown
>Come on Jow Forums, you're better than this Is it? Remember - Jow Forums really believes that Armata broke down in the middle of a parade.
Logan Taylor
The following letter was written by Ildar Dadin to his wife Anastasia (Nastya) Zotova. Dadin was the first ever person to be convicted under Article 212.1 of Russia’s Criminal Code. The article punishes anyone who "repeatedly violates the established order by organizing or holding meetings [or] rallies". Dadin was imprisoned for organizing one-man protests. In the letter, Ildar Dadin reveals the torture that he is enduring at penal colony number 7 in the town of Segezha in Northwestern Russia. This torture is being administered by prison authorities.
i know whats cure for your insanity: go take a bath with a toaster in it to understand how insane you sound, swith places of Russia with USA besides it's USA who used nukes on civilians - TWICE go on then, nutjob - attack Russia, see what happens you lost to both ricefarmers and sandniggers and you want to fight russians? stupid redneck
Bentley Turner
i see what you did there
Hunter Brooks
Good thing the practice of dispersed road bases has been resumed throughout Scandinavia. Have fun trying to bomb every straight stretch of road on the map.
The Russians long ago killed anything good in their culture or society. Whereas people to struck out for freedom became hero's and founders in western countries. In Russia they were just murdered. All that is left is a terrible stinking dungheap based on hate, terror, fear and tyranny.
Aiden James
how many ppl Hillary killed? just stop it all this bullshit with "freedom" and tyranny
Christopher Cook
Poles are far better at maintaining things than Russians you retarded Ivan.
Jayden Thompson
See
David Anderson
i am not russian, if you imply it i am just sick of braindead americans with "freedom is not a choice" attitude FUCK you all assholes - your time will come soon enough
Juan Adams
>According to the Chinese news agency >Russian fighters are a stone age
I hate to sound like a Vatnik but where are the proofs OP?
Also JUNE 4 1989, TIANANMEN SQUARE
Easton Hernandez
Poland wants 64 F-35s too. Deal will probably be signed next year.
Owen Bell
>Poles are far better at maintaining things than Russians you retarded Ivan. Maintain your prime-minister's plane better next time.
Hunter Harris
>just stop it all this bullshit with "freedom" and tyranny
Hillary has never sent agents to a foreign country to kill dissidents with a nerve agent. Or ordered Ukrainian journalists to be shot dead. The FSB kills Russians who speak out. Russia doesn't seem very free.
Jaxon Long
Source? I know they want to replace their old mig-29s, but I didn't think they were buying F-35s.
Joshua Sullivan
Dessident? that was rogue former FSB high-ranked agent
Tell me, how USA treats traitors? with flowers and chokolade box?
John Turner
>ordered Ukrainian journalists to be shot dead dude you just sound silly now making up stories?
Caleb Watson
>Hillary has never sent agents to a foreign country to kill dissidents with a nerve agent. Israil does. Sanctions when?
Anthony Myers
yeah, pretty much. the clintons sold missile tech to the chinese in the 1990s and got away with it completely.
Zachary Watson
does US army make mandatory lobotomy to all service men? or just recruits total retards to begin with?
Blake Collins
>The acquisition of 110 US F-16 fighters will cost India’s budget only $ 6 billion, while the purchase of Russian Su-35 fighters twice as expensive How true is this though? Regardless of performance, for a country like India, the F16 deal is billion times more attractive so it's not really surprising. That is, IF the fakenews OP posted isn't fake.
Nathan Smith
It's interesting how you can tell ESL speakers apart from the distinct mistakes in their grammar. I can tell you're a Russian, as you overuse question marks in place of correct punctuation.
Christian Mitchell
wrong, who made you a linguist now? also ad hominem can't rebutte an argument? then stay silent
Henry Ramirez
Irrelevant when a single J-20 can easily shoot down any of them and only the F-22 can survive an encounter with the J-20.
Cooper Walker
>All that Vatnik derailing ITT
The point stands: NOBODY buys Moscow planes. Nobody wants them. Not India, not former Warsaw Pact states, not even the Chinese. Serbians has to be bribed to accept few beat down Moscow Flankers, since the overhaul was more costful than purchase of used F-16.
Pic related is the best plane in Russian inventory, the Aermacchi training jet.
Setting aside the unit cost, F16s are always going to have superior maintenance costs through engines and avionics alone.
Dylan Diaz
>NOBODY buys Moscow planes. Except those countries who do. The point stands, bro, the point stands.
Nathan Richardson
Did you get rejected by a Russian girl? This rage is not normal.
Christian Morgan
This actually made me happy enemy superpowers helping it Other out
Gabriel Rodriguez
'Rouge' Agent. Like those two chaps who spread the poison? Hmm. Tell my why do you suppose Skirpal fled Russia?
One political candidate, one attempted murder and least we forget Anna.
So that makes it okay for Russia to do it? Well by that bizarre logic Israel is better at it, their agents never get exposed for being moronic clowns.
Jaxson Harris
So it was only pretending to be retarded?
Oliver Howard
>So that makes it okay for Russia to do it? That makes the whole argument a hippie liberal bullshit for people from /mlp/. Hey, the world isn't a place with ponies and magical princesses who can solve all troubles with the power of friendship and love. And if you live by the "some animals are more equal than others" rule, have guts to admit it. Or else you're either a hypocrite or a moron.
Also, the whole Scripal thing looks less like a murder and more like a failed attempt to steal or buy shit from the local chemical lab. Explains why they were cured that fast, why there is no confirmation of Russian origins of the nerve agent and other shit.
Nathan Hughes
>So it was only pretending to be retarded?
No no, it was demonstrating just how good the mountain parking break is. It's so good even, that the engineers didn't know it was there, or how to turn it off. The clever tank built it's own parking break by eating it's own transmission. It's this complex Russian engineering that makes the T 14 too expensive to buy, even for the country that designed them.
Who was pretending to be retarded? Jow Forums? Naah, it wasn't.
Justin Lewis
>J-20 Taiwan(Real China) and India both has confirmed that the J-20 is only a little more stealthy than a F-15E. Weak chinese insect people can not into stealth design.
Sebastian Williams
What countries? Dude, You had to shove migs to Serbia and Your own airforce axed Su-57. Worry not, €50 deals with all objection of moscow girls
>the whole Scripal thing looks less like a murder and more like a failed attempt to steal or buy shit from the local chemical lab.
The local chemical lab... Fascinating. Tell me why they would be doing this. Is this the official message the Russian government is feeding it's citizens? Also, this is the UK. You can't buy chemicals anymore from the 'Local Chemical labs' that are just scattered all around the quaint little English town of Salisbury.
€50? Damn dude where are you, Moscow? Look out for the high roller everybody.
John Johnson
Lmao "the local chemical lab"? Or the door to door nerve agent salesman?
>pardon me sir, would but could I interest you in some ricin? >"oh no my tastes are far more.. exotic." >well have I got a treat in stock for you sir!
Owen Wright
>The local chemical lab.. Porton Down, duuuh
>You can't buy chemicals anymore from the 'Local Chemical labs' that are just scattered all around the quaint little English town of Salisbury.
Oh, man, stop being so naive. All you need to do is to find a guy with a financial troubles. Or blackmail someone. This is what spies do, and Scripal used to be one.
