Would you kill an enemy soldier trying to surrender? Or an unarmed POW?

Would you kill an enemy soldier trying to surrender? Or an unarmed POW?

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If he just killed my friend before, yes

Are they white?

>itt: edginess

Depends what kind of soldier.
Sadistic murderers like ISIS dudes or Waffen SS would get the bullet unless I knew they'd go into a jail run by the people they massacred.

Depends. If I’m a military member, no. Doing so would be a war crime, and my luck is such that there would be multiple cellphone videos of the deed. If I’m an irregular militia member, defending my homeland from invaders, whoever I catch is going home in a box.

I probably would, but completely on accident

I can't even catch myself in time to not shoot someone who's out+walking off the field in paintball

Go back
It seems shitty but they're nothing but a massive liability. Then again, the nips were allegedly very fucking surprised by the somewhat humane treatment they received as POWs, never having had to endure sportsball mass beheadings, death marches, etc

Is this going to be one of those "there's no rules to war" threads? The rules against killing POWs are there to protect YOUR soldiers as well. Taking prisoners also allows you to gather intel.

No. Thats wrong

seething shitskin

No. I would make sweet love with them.

Depends on the situation.

Literally you

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It depends. Do I have the capability to harbor prisoners without jeopardizing my unit or the operation as a whole?

Battle of Fraustadt comes to mind. Swedish Calvary flank was still in full movement to support the Infantry assaulting the center of the Russian/Saxon lines. The Calvary was the anvil to close the trap and could not afford to be bogged down to prisoners from the mass surrendering Russians.

“all but a few hundred were massacred, as initially quarters could not be given, since our left flank was still in full assault” - Lieutenant Colonel Nils Gyllenstierna

”Something which I found strange I’d like to here mention, is that none of the 6000 Russians who were the Saxons help were given any mercy, but were instead all massacred; They were all dressed in white coats with red lining, with some during the retreat having turned their coats inside out to resemble Saxons in hope of mercy, but after General Renschiöld learned they were Russians, he had them taken to the front to be shot in the head.” - Alexander Magnus Dahlberg, Dragoon

Depends on their actions immediately prior to their surrender.
>A single man wanders out of the brush to surrender
Accept
>A man held up in a building kills several friendlies and then tries to surrender
"He just came out and pointed his gun at me, I had to shoot him."

In general you should accept as many surrenders as possible unless fighting commies or gooks.

Depends, my current position is such that even a single a pow would be significant hindrance to my squad so I might just shoot

also russkis are barely people

Depends. Likely not.

In todays world, someone would find out. If it was 1944 and I just liberated a camp, I might.

Depends on who's surrendering.
If it's a force known to be as sadistic as The SS or Dirlewanger then nah.
Plus, it depends if they're innocent for me like if they didn't just massacre my squad.

Only if they're
A). cute girls
B). no one else around
C). just committed war crimes of their own

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This.

Reminder that thousands of Nazis escaped justice in the immediate postwar period including Joseph Mengle.

Knowing that, it would be very hard for me to restrain myself from killing them on the spot, even though I want to respect the rules of war.

>inb4 triggered wehraboo crybabies
follow your leader, cunts.

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>they don't agree with my online hugbox so it must be a nigger conspiracy!!!

This is your brain on Jow Forums. Any questions?

>that reference tho

Oh hey rabbi

That was prior to the Geneva conventions. On the modern battlefield it is illegal as child fuck to "give no quarter" and refuse to accept surrender. If you're winning so badly that the enemy is surrendering en mass you'd better have the manpower to process prisoners anyway or you're not going to be winning for much longer.

to be fair, nigger conspiracies are where it’s at

Generally no, even low ranking soldiers have valuable intel and are still human. The only time it would be considered would be if they're dangerous, in danger of escaping or logistics prevent safe movement to the rear.

Nigger detected

Funny that picture u posted. 45th id had a bad habit of killing prisoners. They did it not only in France but in Italy too.

No, unequivocally. Doesn't matter what they did.

Only dishonorable cowards disobey the rules of war. My job as a soldier is not to be a judge and executioner but to induce the submission of the enemy either by killing him or forcing him to surrender, so that I can accomplish my objectives and win the battle. Being an honorable soldier means having principles that you follow, and principles are non-negotiable.

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More like are they communist?

What is a Nazi by any other name, the post.

Great insight into your inept mind.

It’s okay goy. Almost all of the SS was allowed to live so they could go right into the frontlines of the coldwar. Honestly godbless those guys.

Only good post in this thread, all other edgy faggots neck yourselves immediately

In this case it was Dachau SS Guards, and this was right after they walked past train cars with thousands of rotting corpses spilling out. Keep in mind that only the higher ups in the Allied forces knew anything about the genocide and so this would have been a complete shock to them. So while they certainly shouldn't have executed unarmed POWs I can understand why they did. I think a couple of the troops who carried out the reprisals were later court martialed but they got a slap on the wrist IIRC.

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>What is a Nazi by any other name, the post.

What the fuck are you even on about? Either learn to phrase your sentences correctly or shut up when adults are talking.

That's a lot of screeching sound without saying anything. Sorry you're too stupid to understand my posts.

If your monkey brain decides to give it a try and actually put together a argument I'll stop just belittling you and simply my point enough for you.

>major operation going on
>center and right flank desperately waiting on our unit to hit the enemy in the rear and cause them to break
>oh no the enemy unit in front of us surrendered
>guess we'll sit here and wait for orders and reinforcements while the rest of our friendly units are in the fight of their lives outnumbered 2-1

Geneva Convention or not you can easily imagine what a unit would do in that situation.

Depends. Is he just a kid, or is he some evil fucker?

if you dont want to shoot the you strip them of their guns and clothing and tell them to keep running, arms raised, to direction x

but yeah pows can be real hindrance especially to a small unit that needs to carry on attacking right now and not in two hours

>t. Glow-in-the-dark C.I.A. Nigger

No. Were times when we all wanted to level the city, everytime we lost a buddy.

That said, we had to keep what we had for ourselves. To look yourself in the mirror and still be able to respect yourself. In difficult periods that was many times our collective inclination, to kill everyone. But it would be no more than a momentary period of retribution that ultimately amounted to fuck all, all the while we would damn ourselves.

Had great NCOs, who had lost friends on previous tours. They'd stoke passion in all of us, but never to do wrong if it could be helped.

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If they deserved it, yes. Like a Nazi during WW2 that is known for cruelty, or a gook in Vietnam that just killed your best buddy.

If it's an ISIS fighter or otherwise terrorist, I wouldn't even care, just fucking shoot them in the head before they pull some "righteous suicide" bullshit on you.

Oh I'm sorry, were you going to spout platitudes to me about how wanting to kill Nazis without due process makes you as bad as they are? Or something along those lines? Again, I can't really tell, nor do I feel like trying. Being incoherent and then insulting people when they don't understand your stupidly worded incoherent responses doesn't reflect well upon you-- just some advice since you seem intent on taking some kind of intellectual high road that you're clearly not very well equipped for.

>I'll stop just belittling you and simply my point enough for you.

Dude, I don't care what your fucking point is if you're going to try and be coy about it. Stop wasting my time.

not really edgy when the enemy habitually fake surrenders then pulls out a grenade

Any response other than this is wrong.

American, Asian or islamist: Yes fucking immediatly
European: Gonna just tortue him

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>t. psychopath who would commit murder if there werent legal ramifications

>"I, I would kill duh natzees!"
Lol fuck off you jew loving communist shitskins.
The Germans were the only ones fighting for a pure, white & peaceful Evropa.
>inb4 muh SS!
The ends justify the means

All europeans except germanics*
germanics should be decapitated

And anglos
anglos too
All anglos except australians and NZealanders
Gonna fucking bayonet their eyballs

>>>/leftypol/

Jow Forums is a Jow Forums board nigger.

Depends on our death toll.
Also

No, it isn't. Stop trying to persuade differently. Jow Forums is Jow Forums, and Jow Forums should be Jow Forums.

My previous post, where I actually fought for what I believed rather than being no more than an internet tough guy.

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right but pol and k are similiar in the hatred for commies

it is >>>/leftypol/ who should get out, not pol

>t. normie who wouldn't

What are you, gay?

>triggered wehraboo faggot child comes out of the woodwork and samefags the thread

like fucking clockwork. Now I want to kill Nazis even more.

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No but if I caught a female soldier I would rape the shit out of her.

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No JIDF begone. k, r9k,b, tv and fit are Jow Forums boards. You wont persuade otherwise.

>Triggered cuck hilary voter, bisexual lefty comes out of the woodwork and same fags the thread

t. jeffery dahmer

No because only honorless faggots would do something in defiance of the rules of war placed upon them by the nation they swore service to. Either serve in accordance with those regulations or do not serve. Once you take up arms you are not a person but a weapon and a tool to achieve the goals of your nation. Once your duty is done then you may be as much of a faggot as you want.

You are still missing my entire point. Jow Forums should be non-political outside of advocating for firearm/weapons rights.

Politics don't belong here, I believe there is a particular board for those type of subjects, educated guess.

Blow me. You can think it, doesn't make it true. The Jow Forums I've known for ten years is unifialited to politics and advocates the weapons rights of all.

Much alike to the values of the nation I served, the 2nd Amendment is blind.

Keep Jow Forums where it belongs, on Jow Forums.

It isn't some all for me and mine, but not you.

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So you understood me perfectly, and still cried inept? So you were... Just pretending?

Well, basically yeah. You're what you hate only less ambitious.

Spoils of war.

Depends

>did they kill a friend/squaddie before surrendering
Yes
>did they try to blow us up before surrendering
No, ask him where he made all those bombs
>did he take potshots at us/missed because lolaccuracy
No
>is there a SNCO/officer around
No

Lefty pol doesn't invade other boards. They don't make daily threads about how much they want to destroy capitalists, or accuse everyone who opposes them of being a shill, and rail about how much they want to exterminate the kulaks.

But you know what? You try to browse Jow Forums or /b/ or /gif/ or any other board and there's daily threads about how much you hate niggers and jews and posters are samefagging threads that have no political relevance with nutjob conspiracy garbage. You wannabe edgelords have completely ruined Jow Forums for everyone else when there's a perfectly serviceable containment board that everyone else uses for that shit. Your brand of political opinion is only held by people with no integrity or self-respect, and so it makes sense that every single one of you is a contemptible, miserable, attention-seeking cunt.

And not only this, but you're apparently a gutless liar and coward as well, trying to shift the blame to anyone else when we can all see it clear as day. Get fucked with a duffel bag of black dick you bootlicking turd.

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Will you Jow Forumsfags please keep your tit-for-tat arguments on the relevant board? That being Jow Forums, for politics. This is Jow Forums if you've forgotten, for weapons.

It is not a complicated concept, in fact it is stupid simple.

No, I assumed that's what you were getting at but again, your strange phasing made it ambiguous.

From my view, the kind of people who keep women and little children in camps and either starve, gas, or outright kill them, are not the people who can be rehabilitated or integrated back into society. It's very hard to defend them as prisoners of war especially when you've just seen how they treat their own prisoners. And if they survive being a POW there's a good chance they'll walk away, given that the Allied high command has bigger fish to fry than a couple of concentration camp guards.

Don't mistake my meaning: Is it right to kill POWs? No, under any circumstances. But would I do it to them if I was there? Yeah, I probably would. I don't think I could tolerate allowing someone who participated in such an act to not face consequences. And obviously a lot of US and Soviet troops had the same urge when they liberated these camps, and I think it's fairly understandable.

You literally are going to lose more and more of your rights if you believe anyone and everyone should have weapons. This is not debatable. White men should not be killing their own. That's the point of the thread, would you kill an enemy soldier surrendering.

>or any other board
Jow Forums is a right wing website you fucking idiot

>You wannabe edgelords have completely ruined Jow Forums for everyone else

GOOD
You pussy as faggot normalfags have literally every other service connected to the internet pandering to you with leftwing community standards sensoring anything remotly """Offencive"""

Yet here we have this one tiny section of the internet to ourselves and you dont like it?
Too fucking bad cunt, develop thicker skin or go back to some other website that does sensor other peoples opinions for you.

>You literally are going to lose more and more of your rights if you believe anyone and everyone should have weapons

This is such a stupid statement that it doesn't dignify a response.

>This is not debatable

Yes it is. I'm debating you.

>White men should not be killing their own.

Nobody should be killing anyone unless they've don something to deserve it. If they do, it doesn't matter what skin color they are.

>That's the point of the thread, would you kill an enemy soldier surrendering.

That has nothing to do with the previous three statements. Race is not a component of this hypothetical scenario unless you make it one.

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This post is the epitome of the Amerimutt

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It depends on whether I could safely transport the prisoner to the proper detaient facilities without sacrificing my mission objectives. If there's no way I would be able to get them to base, then they're gonna die. If it's imperative to the campaign that I complete my objectives yesterday, then they're gonna die. If I am behind enemy lines, they're gonna die. If things are especially FUBAR, they're gonna die.

I would rather not shoot someone who has surrendered, but I'm not gonna just let them go if I can't transport them to base.

>Jow Forums is a right wing website you fucking idiot

I'm sorry where does it say that on the main page? Either I missed a giant official announcement or you're pulling from out of your ass in the grand tradition of hydrocephalitic retards with their backs against the wall.

>here we have this one tiny section of the internet to ourselves

Hooray, you said something that wasn't utterly wrong (by accident), I knew you could do it. But the tiny section is called Jow Forums. It's not called "greater Jow Forums". How very fucking presumptuous of you to think that most people outside Jow Forums on Jow Forums think like you or have any respect for your edgy 5 year old level of intellect, and don't want you fucking faggots to die a miserable burning death. I've been here for a decade and I ain't fucking going anywhere because of you. Fuck off right back up your mother's gaping vagina you insufferable prick.

Which posts violate rule 3?

It very much is debatable, whether you think so or not.
> White men should not be killing their own.
And yet they do, day in and day out. Which also has zero basis on Jow Forums, but yet here you are thinking this has any relevance on Jow Forums.

> That's the point of the thread, would you kill an enemy soldier surrendering.
>White men should not be killing their own.
>That's the point of the thread

Perhaps you and I are on different boards. OP's question was
>Would you kill an enemy soldier trying to surrender? Or an unarmed POW?

A question I responded to in relevance to the specific query several times, based off my experience relating to the actual topic.
WTF are you doing besides trying to say that Jow Forumsitical topics have any home here on a board not in the least suppose to be about politics?

This is a very simple stupid concept that is completely understandable to a child, yet you can't understand.

Politics belongs on Jow Forums, and discussions on Jow Forums should be about weapons and not politics. Get that simple fact through your simple head.

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Based /neutral/poster, keep fighting the good fight.

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>It depends. Do I have the capability to harbor prisoners without jeopardizing my unit or the operation as a whole?
This is the correct answer.

Jesus Christ, all these edgy kids that thinks killing unarmed surrendering soldiers is cool. Rules of warfare prohibited killing surrendering troops even if they just murdered your best fuckbuddy. If you do your a war criminal and will be treated like one.

How is doctrine relating to enemy soldiers not even tangentially related to politics? Everything is politics; that being said just because someone answered in a way you disagree with doesn't make that answer "Jow Forums".

This is your white knight instincts kicking in. There is literally nothing wrong with preferring your own, and reflecting that opinion in your wartime decisions.

>Rules of warfare prohibited killing surrendering troops even if they just murdered your best fuckbuddy
Didn't work back then, didn't work in Iraq/Afganistan, won't work in the future.

The rules are there but nobody follows it.

Which, interestingly enough, caused COs to look the other way during WW2.

Um, no, only whites vote for gun rights. Your vision is blurred through your service with non-whites. It's OK to admit that, I don't blame you. However we have to be rational and look at the data.

All of the openly racist posts.

There is when race has nothing to do with the topic at hand, it has been and remains that fucking simple.

Don't go all Clausewitz on me.

You are only Jow Forumsfagging by other means.

The guys who I fully entrusted my life with were of every color, race, and background you could name.

Which outside the contexts of being great soldiers, has no relevance.

I'm drunk as shit, but more aware of what my service meant or was than you.

Don't spout shit just because you think you are right, most who serve these days (beyond whites) develop a conservative mindset. Seen and still see as much among a host of guys I served with.

You anons have this bubble of confirmation bias (that belongs on Jow Forums), and it is like pulling teeth trying to show you that you may be wrong.

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this is a better fit for you

Based

Bluepilled and Cringe

This faggot has some real homosexual tendencies.

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>german leader bad
>professor lebewitz told me so

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Nope, I'd probably be the coward that shoots at empty shit or is already dead.

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Only under the most extreme of circumstances.

Fuck off Jow Forums and go back to where you belong. Known Men who weren't white that I'd bet all my possessions are better men than you, and I would not sweat such a wager.

What you Jow Forumsfags don't get is that every individual is their own determiner of their own worth. Something you learn when your life and well-being is in the hands of others.

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>race has nothing to do with the topic at hand
That's your opinion. You have had certain life experiences, and others have had theirs. It isn't Jow Forums to recognize this.

We can rephrase OPs question to:
>Under what circumstances would you kill an enemy soldier trying to surrender?

Your mistake is assuming that anything with which goes against the orthodoxy of your worldview is Jow Forums.

The law requires me to say no

if my superiors give me orders to kill then yes I will do it
>why?
just following orders

Honestly a fair point.

My life experiences and life lived since has been based off the people that I've known. Treating all persons encountered since as fellow human beings, and give them the decency they deserve. I'm a minority in my apartment building, but have encountered nothing but good people when I'm good to them. I live around a sizable homeless population and a plethora of drug-users, and have no problem.

I treat those around me as my equals because they are, and those are the values and merits of my experience in service.

Wish many of you had the same experience as mine, but recognize all the same that my experience is my own.

I just hate hatred on the most simple of self-perceived justifications, but can realize that some have reason for their bias.

Still firmly believe this topic has no relevance on Jow Forums. Certainly the subject has merit, but not on Jow Forums. That is my entire point from the beginning of my involvement in this thread.

Nuremberg has proven that that's not a valid excuse anymore. You'll get raked over the coals for that now a days

So women and children are exempt from Justice?

I'm genuinely curious as I find killing Muslims pointless without killing their women and children as their culture creates a surplus of men by it's practices.

How does leaving roots ever kill the weeds?