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Carter Cruz
>A shittier version of the Leo 2A4 that costs 2X more
I should think not.
Blake Carter
Patlabor posting?
Patlabor posting.
Luke Wright
>implying Leopard is a good tank.
Alexander Harris
Then what does that make the Type 90?
Jack Harris
We /m/ now
Brayden Hall
Something that is unrelated to the Leopard( other than then gun of cause).
Noah Fisher
Leopards are good tanks, turks are just not good people
Jack Howard
The T34-85 is widely regarded as the best tank of WW2. In one incident, an entire company of Tiger 2's attempted to destroy a lone advancing T34-85 only to have all their rounds bounced by the T34's superior angled armor. Said T34 dispatched all the Tiger 2's with a single shot to their frontal armor that was constructed of pig iron. Wartime records indicate that the T34-85 had a K/D ratio of 50,000,000:1. The single lost vehicle due to the crew drinking too much in celebrating their 1000th Tiger kill, and then driving their tank into a 20-feet deep river of German blood. Fear of the T34 was so great, that Germans would immediately surrender upon sight of them. The prisoners were then forced to lie down, and promptly run over by T-34's to avenge the 6 million Jews. Many historians contend that the Allies only won WW2 because of the T34-85, and by extension, the T34-series as a whole.
Joseph Roberts
Ah, the infamous Tiger. Often referred to as the 'Fascist Cooker' by the Soviets. The nickname referred to when the Germans starving from lack of rations, would scavenge destroyed Tiger tanks for the precious cooked meat inside. In fact, the designers of the Tiger designed it to light every time, so that cooking of the crews was guaranteed. Of course, the Germans would often eat their own tank crews whether they were cooked or not, regardless. My grandpappy told me this in great detail when I was a young boy. Truly the horrors of war. Why couldn't rhes just use the war winning T-34 like the Red Army?
Ryan Turner
Yes it is. It's quite good, just because a 1979 vintage model of one got blown up due to poor situational awareness of its crew has no indication on its quality.
It's a near direct ripoff of the Leo 2 with an autoloader and less armor.
Asher Scott
The Type 90 is based off the ST-C which predates the Leopard 2
Julian King
Ian Bell
I heard that the U.S. Ordnance Department was aware of the Sherman being a 'Tommy Cooker', and attempted to implement various measures to address this issue. The design team was lead by Sheldon Rosenstein, a convicted child-beater, arsonist, and avid necrophiliac. Sheldon was reportedly pen-pals with Shiro Ishii, and Oskar Dirlewanger. When questioned about these letters outgoing to hostile countries, Sheldon replied that he was merely exchanging 'tips and tricks'. Sheldon's team designed a mechanism that would lock the crew hatches shut, thus trapping the crew, when smoke was detected inside the sherman after being penetrated and set alight. Not only that, but apparently there was also a following feature that was a re-take on the Brazen Bull. When the crew was burning to death, their screams would be amplified by speakers that projected outside the tank. The U.S. Ordnance Department justified these features by proclaiming that the Germans would be frightened by the hellish screams of the sherman crews being incinerated, and allied soldiers would be more motivated to fight hard, lest the same fate befall them. Sheldon also later devised a system that had a 1 in 59 chance of setting off an explosive charge in the ammunition storage every time the Sherman's engine was turned on. Supposedly, this was to 'test the crew's luck before battle'. This innovation was well-received by the U.S. Army, but was rejected for budgetary reasons. Upon receiving news of the Army's rejection, Sheldon bludgeoned his manservant to death with a fire iron in a fit of unstoppable rage. Years after the war, Sheldon tragically died in a fire, of which he had started in a New York orphanage.
Jackson Hernandez
>it's another "tank isn't invincible therefore it's shit" post
Aaron Rogers
>The first prototypes were completed in 1982
Wrong.
Blake Price
Dumb westerner, I bet you send infantry ahead of the armor too.
Jose Howard
>smaller
>autoloader
>better protected hull stowage
>better fire control
>better mobility
bundesbabies btfo
Gabriel Ward
>smaller
Marginal
>autoloader
Not an advantage
>better protected hull stowage
The armor is worse, so no.
>better fire control
It was made in 1990 and hasn't been upgraded since. No.
>better mobility
*throws track*
Jordan Adams
>auto loader of the Type 90’s quality is not an advantage
Brandon Gutierrez
Throwing a track once isn’t an argument when the Leopard 2 currently holds the silver medal in turret throwing
Dominic Stewart
Correct
>Throwing a track once isn’t an argument when the Leopard 2 currently holds the silver medal in turret throwing
Right. Because the Type 90 would've performed so much better in the same scenario.
Connor Wilson
>Patlabor
Fuck yes!
Why can't we have animes like during the 80s and 90s anymore? Animes with soul?
Nathaniel Allen
>Right. Because the Type 90 would've performed so much better in the same scenario.
Yes, sorry friendo but the Type 90 is better than the Leopard 2 in every way
Jayden Anderson
Except for having shitty armor, old ammo and old electronics?
Carson James
>except things I made up
Brandon Sanders
OOF you just dabbed on that libtard epic style
Jason Reyes
No, they're objectively true.
Joseph Hughes
~t. turret throwing champ
Dominic Thomas
>implying the type 90 wouldn't also throw it's turret in the same situation
>both have ammo in the hull
both are garbage then
Christian Howard
But the Type 90 is faster and stronger
Grayson Johnson
The Type 90 has the exact same hull rack, idiot. The Results would be the same or worse than on the Leopard 2, due to the Type 90's poor armor.
Adrian Myers
Muh dick.
Evan Smith
>stronger
Explain how a composite armor package weighing less than the leopard 2a4's is "stronger"
Cameron Gonzalez
>weight is a measure of protection
>not cross sectional density
Aiden Murphy
>the army coup d'etat the diet so shinzo abe can become shogun
based.
Wyatt Young
I mean, Japan's debt is twice its economy size. This has only happened once in the past, and they solved it by annexing Korea and Manchuria.
Chase Johnson
wrong
"Requirements of the Type 90 were completed in 1980 with two prototypes, both armed with a Japanese 120 mm gun firing Japanese ammunition, completed in 1982 to 1984. These were used in extensive trials that continued through to 1986.
A second series of four prototypes was built between 1986 and 1988 which incorporated changes as a result of trials with the first two prototypes."
Leopard 2av was finished in 1976
Joseph Wright
am i kawaiii ~~~
Bentley Ortiz
>only arguments are "no lol" and anime pics
Weebs are brainlets
Robert Brown
>muh monkey model = home version
If I had a dollar every time one of you chucklenuts compared an export to the real deal, I'd be able to buy an actual tank. Jesus.
Anthony Robinson
Just a reminder that this thread is made by a mentally ill 56%er that shitposts constantly and makes shit threads about Japanese vehicles, and shitposts on War Thunder General on /vg/!
Grayson Hughes
>implying Turk Leopard 2s are monkey models
>implying monkey model Leopard 2s even exist
Kayden Bailey
I'm sorry but it appears that you have shit taste
Dominic White
It happened because of letting Chicago eduxated traitors turn the real estate market into a casino djring the 80s, crashing the economy, and then futilely trying to keep everything afloat with debt.
Had they not done any of that stuff, theyd be fine. They are getting to the point where the interest is so high that they may well absolve all internally owned debt and do a reset. Itll be shaky but fine.
Ryan Russell
>grow a bubble for 20+ years
>whoever is in charge when it bursts is at fault for everything
Your economic illiteracy is showing.
Michael Johnson
The (((USA))) forced Japan to allow foreign companies and banks and individuals to trade and purchase its currency, opening it up to foreign pump and dump schemes. Number one of these being real estate speculation fueled by loans.
As for the Bubble, it wasnt until the mid 80s. It was steady economic expansion that matched its rebuilding of industry and steady population growth. Thats a thing that isnt mentioned a lot.
But of all the major countries of the Axis, only Japan had significant population growth and all of it internal. And it was sustained pop growth.
Parker Clark
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Nolan Rivera
>Made by rice farmers
>good
Ethan Fisher
>best tank
How many wars has it been in?
Hunter Harris
Oh sheet mang
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Angel Rogers
>Mobility kill
Sebastian Moore
/his/torian here, is this the kind of stuff you get up to in Jow Forums?
Also may I steal these for use in alternate ww2 threads?
Xavier Mitchell
based
Ayden Campbell
that picture makes me miss the old akihabara before it started getting clean and full of fucking tourists getting in the way
Ryder Walker
classic
Liam Adams
That meme is already on /his/
Blake Foster
To be fair, it probably is pretty excellent. Improved gun, good engine, tranny, armor, etc.
Best of all it has integrated C4I. It'll never see use, though.
Lincoln Parker
Oh, wait what? Thought OP was talking about the Type 10. NO, Type 90 is not the best tank in the world. That's just silly.
Elijah Hill
>knock knock-BOOM!
That's how long it takes for an M1A2 Abrams to open your door
Ayden White
>autoloader
You must be new here
Jackson Ross
When do you guys think these things will finally fuck off?
They get destroyed in droves in every western happy fun time war for oil, brush war and civil conflict but there still seems to be literally thousands of them still in use and iirc there are companies still making parts and upgrade packages for them
Elijah Sanders
>Good enough main gun
>can still kill modern armor with gun launch ATGM
>decent armor, base model lighter than modern IFV and APC
China even introduce upgrade with 125mm gun and there are country willingly to buy.
Hunter Davis
Having a top-of-the-line MBT probably makes a pretty big difference. However, the difference between a somewhat out of date MBT like the T-72B or the M60A3 and a T-55 with minor upgrades probably isn't that much, especially compared to the cost. So basically the T-55 is going to be around for another fifty years. Maybe a hundred.
Aaron Howard
>knock knock
>knock knock
>KNOCK KNOCK KNOCK KNOCK KNOCK.... knock.... knock.....................
Thats how long it takes to open the crew hatches of a burning Sherman, as the smoke builds up inside.
Isaiah Barnes
>autoloader
>only there because the japs are too small to handle anything bigger than a 105mm round
Hudson Lewis
>sherman had spring-loaded hatches
Of all the things you could go after the sherman for...
Connor Gomez
kek
Jordan Smith
That’s not the M1A2D, T14, or K2
Ian Bailey
Zachary Flores
Am I the only one fucking floored by how much boom is in that long range, relatively small package moving at "fuck you" velolicity?
Nathan Martin
The big explosion comes from the munitions in the tank, not the ATGM.
Jonathan Green
That really only makes it slightly less impressive
Mason Moore
>can still kill modern armor with gun launch ATGM
Please look into things in the future before you post. GLATGMs are ineffective against modern armor-especially ones fired out of a 100MM.
Jackson White
For me, it's the Renault FT, Panzer III, Centurion, Leopard 1 & M1 Abrams
Dominic Murphy
Cute!
Joshua Evans
There's something especially comfy about the TV OP's.
Aiden Garcia
Zachary Perry
>3UBK23M-1 (9M117M2 Boltok) extended-range warhead penetrating 850 mm at up to 6,000 m
>useless
explain