When, not if the Republicans "compromise" by giving Democrats far more away than they will get us in return, what is most likely to happen next year when the culmination of pic related concludes? What is most likely for us to expect from this?
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Bullshit about the ARs will go though the house, one or two faux republicans will let it go through the senate, presidential veto and/or supreme court shuts it down for the uncons. shit it is.
If not AR specifically, it'll be whatever unique thing the next 10 totally-not-let-through-the-system-by-(((incompetence))) mass shooters will use.
5 Parkland-tier FBI and/or LEO "failures"
3 Sutherland "he wasn't able to own a gun/ wacko accessory he used but the shitlibs will fail to mention it" scenarios
1 more Vegas with a dead "lone wolf" shooter
I'm fully convinced the uptake in mass shootings is engineered by certain tribesmen and their lackeys, especially given the new information that came out about Op Fast & Furious.
Any American that doubts their government would try to manipulate them in such a way is retarded, naive/uninformed, or is working for the powers that be. This shit makes me sick.
It was worth losing guns as long as I can stick it to orange cheeto man with my votes and chance to score my weed rights
>presidential veto
>He still trusts Trump
Nigga, election's over. You don't gotta pretend no more, not for another year and a half at least.
>What is most likely for us to expect from this?
Lots of impotent screaming and burning of political capital from the House while the Senate, SCOTUS, and White House do pic related.
Nothing policy wise with the Republicans still controlling most of the government. What we will see is another round of panic buying as the Dems throw a tantrum. If you didn't learn you lesson after Sand Hook and stock up when prices came back to earth, this holiday season is your chance to fix that with all the good deals that'll be out there.
Why have I never seen her milkers?
You're a moron if you think Trump would sign a 1994 style AWB, and this is coming from someone that thinks Trump is mostly full of shit. If there's one thing Trump is good at it's playing to his base, and he knows that his base almost universally cares about 2A rights. It's no coincidence that the two justices he's put on the SCOTUS are pro-2A Constitutionalists, It'd make no sense to do that and then sign an AWB that Kavanaugh has said he would see as unconstitional, hell, just look up the dissent he wrote on Heller v. DC.
>Kavanaugh dissented from that ruling; he would have struck down both the ban on semi-automatic rifles and the registration requirements.
>Kavanaugh reasoned that handguns, which are mostly semi-automatic, are protected by the Second Amendment, and he saw no real difference, from a constitutional perspective, between handguns and semi-automatic rifles.
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Question for Americans.
1. You get a wall
2. You now have to submit to stricter gun controls.
Deal or no deal?
*sigh*
SHALL
>I'm the retard for making an educated guess that the Republican president won't piss off the entire pro-gun voting base before his final re-election.
....How much stricter?
No deal. As much as we need to get the circus that is our immigration situation under control there is essentially no situation were I'd be willing to give up any of my natural rights.
Blacks cannot legally touch a gun. No based black people as well.
>presidential veto
If nothing else this was the best reason for Trump to ever be president. Even if you don't want the shit he wants done, he's a smart guy and has everybodies best interest in mind. If anyone will veto the living shit out of bad laws it's him. He's totally the right guy to have got shit done or at least put his foot down and say that's a bad deal.
I can't believe policy is just based off
>orange man bad
>guns bad
This is ridiculous I'd rather just get shot over something more principled.
Nobody falls for that ultimatum besides the handful of retards that are the kind to religiously watch MSM.
With a Dem House and GOP Senate, there will be a whole lot of shit flinging with nothing being done.
The GOP lost the House, they no longer have any reason to compromise.
Based Nancy wears the pansty in this house
*sigh*
Well REGULATED.
They aren't abolishing guns, they're regulating them
Fuck off, kike. The ""regulation"" in the amendment has nothing to do with the arms themselves you illiterate fuck.
All these gun """"""regulations"""""" are infringements, and all these laws pile up and eventually BAM, all guns are gone.
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED. ALL GUN REGULATIONS ARE INFRINGEMENTS.
And by the way, fuck off of all these threads. You're the same fucker who replies to my SHALL everytime. Get a life.
>t. Don't know what regulated meant in the 18th century
>the 2nd amendment has nothing to do with guns
There isn't a single state where you can't own guns even with all the regulations.
So goddamn illiterate.
>>>/reddit/
Well regulated meant regulated. As in by having a legit Officer be in control of a militia regiment in times of war instead of just having a bunch of militia regiments fucking off doing shit for themselves instead of contributing to the fight. That’s what it means. It has nothing to do with regulating weapons at all. It’s only about making sure when shit actually hits the fan. You can have some form of top down leadership even for the militias.
They are regulated. There isn't a state that doesn't already have a pile of gun laws. You're just retarded and don't understand the ones that already exist. Real cute how you try to tomateoh toh matto the wording but you should probably wash your fucking mouth out with a 223 round so you don't sound like such a faggot.
>I can't disprove you so ill just say your facts are bait and call it a day
Faggot
>they're well regulated
You're the kind of guy that wipes once after taking a shit and says his ass is clean despite the smell and your mom spending her 401k on oxyclean to get the shit stains out of your tighty whities. Regulated does not mean well regulated
Look up what "well regulated" meant in 18th century English.
Sounds like you understand how to play with your ass better than deal with gun issues, you should probably stick with being an ass master, fag.
It's not even pure conspiracy, the government has literally been confirmed to have proposed false flag attacks before
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'well regulated' in context of the document specifically refereed to trained and properly cleaned and readied.
>lmao who cares if it's only a single shot .22, at least we're allowing you to have it
>for now
Obviously if someone mentioned a well-regulated clock they were talking about clock control. Common sense clock control.
I think you missed the point of the post you're responding to entirely.
Did you know what touching a handgun in the state of new york without a pistol permit is an immediate felony? Even if you're at the range with your uncle/father/grandfather/brother/god.
>willingly trusting an NYC Liberal
I doubt he'd actually do it either, but come the fuck on you retarded MIGAnigger. He spoke in support of the AWB in the past, and the NRA currently has a known traitor that told people who wanted "assault weapons" to join the Marines. If they capitulate, we're fucked, big time.
Trump owns guns you retard.
We should bring back poll taxes. Poor people could still vote, they'd just have to pay for it.
>You get a wall
We already have one you retard.
>a well regulated militias being neccessary for the security of the state.
>the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
Retard.
No deal. Wall is common sense now. I thought it was a bad idea to start with because of the scale. How big it should be is what's going to be a big deciding factor on it. Even the chain link fences are better than nothing. It's probably a good start since other things can be built in place there. I was really against a wall a couple decades ago because it didn't seem like a big enough wall. Even a smaller one can have the same effect with less impact and more reason to pay attention to building it better when it needs upkeep.
You know everyone is fine with people immigrating to the united states, why isn't expats and immigration away a bigger issue? It happens, not only do you have a net loss of people from them not doing so well here no matter how much it's better than other places, you got people leaving it. NET LOSS. Immigrating people is a fake news issue about bigger policy problems. You're fucking replaceable. "Business as usual but rebel against the status quo" is really the only argument against the wall it's contradictory nonsense.
They’re already regulated you illiterate baiting kumquat.
I mean people immigrating away from the united states. Not to it.>why isn't expats and immigration away a bigger issue?
So did Obama and yet you want to place your trust in someone who is blatantly Antigun to magically repeal gun laws
>Even the chain link fences are better than nothing
Nice thing about a chain link fence is, after they pull it up/ cut a hole in it, you get an idea where they are coming from.
Then you can start posting sentries with rifles in those areas
WHY DON'T WE ALL MOVE OUR ASSES TO MAINE ARIZONA AND WYOMING AND KEEP OUR GUN RIGHTS FOREVER INSTEAD OF BEING SPREAD OUT THIN AND GETTING OUTVOTED BUT LIBERALS?
OH WAIT MOLON LABIA OR SOME OTHER FAGGY SHIT
So they can amend the 2nd and bye bye gun rights for good? Great idea!
>this is coming from someone that thinks Trump is mostly full of shit
>Calls them a MIGAnigger
Nigger can you even read?
They're just going to end up selling more guns like Obongo.
Wyoming would be the most ideal.
Not when I'm either drunk, tired or both.
Stop staying up at night worrying about another federal AWB. The new hot thing is applying god knows what limitations to your FFL at the state and federal levels.
The recent developments they are likely to try and haven't been pushed back in the courts yet include:
1. Shall-issue permit to purchase laws for semi-autos
2. Background checks for all ammo purchases, effectively killing online ammo buying in your state
3. Magazine limits
They'll pass these and not give a shit what you have at home. They want to target the suppliers, because it's much harder to mobilize a defense around FFLs.
>Give up your rights today
>We’ll build something tomorrow
Hell fucking no. This is the whole recipe for how people have been getting played on this shit for decades.
You know trump dosen't care about the drug war and told the old attorney general to back off mj cases?
Trump jas already built a part of the wall and construction and continues , it's just that both dems and reps are cock blocking on paying for it
What happened to Mexico paying for it?
>Fuck the wall
>Keep as many guns as you want and just shoot the Mexicans as and when you need to
What was liberal 30 years ago is conservative now.
Times have changed and the left demonizes anyone right of karl marx.
Yes, Trump is NYC liberal...and in 2018, he might as well be a texan big game hunting bible thumping gun slinger in the eyes of democratic socialists.
20 years ago you could without risk to your reputation and career in saying you don't approve of gay marriage, now it's considered normal and now the left is trying to normalize furries and pedos.
The only parts that were built were replacements for old barriers. There aren't any new walls.
that was never realistic
new walls will kill the jaguars
I'm not even joking, jaguars are returning to the mountains of California but they need to traverse from Mexico to do it
fucking love big cats
Trump is literally a New York liberal that was excommunicated by the Democrats for heresy (not kowtowing to Obama). He's still the same guy he ever was underneath.
Look at how he's changed the Republican party, which used to be about free trade and lassez faire to full on protectionism. He's not in favour of gun rights for all and never has been. At some point in the future he's going to pivot and sell gun control to his base in the same way he sold protectionism, and they're all going to go for it. Look at what he says, he really wants to enact gun control legislation, he said as much after Parkland. What's keeping him off that path (for now) are the Republican aides around him. But those are being thinned out and replaced by people loyal to Trump first, party second. And you are all fools who refuse to see what's staring you in the face.
The dude literally said he'd seriously consider any bans that were passed to him on his desk. The fucking guy said not even 2 months ago that he was gonna EO some gun control until he forgot about all that shit and got his panties in a bunch over the migrant caravan.
Face it, he doesn't give a fuck about your rights, dude. He fucking played all of us. We're lucky things are as good as they are.
Guys we have to compromise, and give them everything they want. It’s the only way!
Obama himself admitted he'd never owned a gun, you retard
Yeah exactly. See I didn't get that at first. That's part of the reason why I was against the wall. I kind of thought we should build like some missile silos and cannons and shit there with a huge fucking wall that could eat a lot of 40mm rounds before it gets breached. Like really big, you can see it from space if you were up there looking down. Even just a silly little fence seems like a better than great idea now. If things can get through it then yeah you can improve it with sentries or more likely just make it bigger later. The smallest thing helps sentries and making it too big in scale isn't a the best solution.
wtf I hate Constitutional rights now.
WHITE MEN: LOVING THAT DIVERSITY, YET? HOW DO YOU THINK THE NEXT 20,30,40,50 YEARS ARE GOING TO LOOK? UNIFIED, OR COMPLETELY RACE-WAR AGAINST WHITE PEOPLE?
Digits ring true
I'm far more worried about the Republicucks. Democrats will do what they do trying to grab guns, but the GOP establishment will fold like a cheap suit
I need them as well for "scientific" reasons
>If there's one thing Trump is good at it's playing to his base
Dude I fully agree that the idea that Trump would pass an AWB is ludicrous, but he's not playing to his base anymore. It's the otherway around. Trump routinely goes back on his promises and his base finds excuses or pretends he actually meant another thing all along.
If Trump could somehow personally profit from an AWB he would do it in a second and anyone who questions him would be a cuck.
Sadly the (((eskimos))) and self-hating white people are intend on throwing the great republic into chaos. There will eventually be fracturing along racial/state lines, smaller (white majority) states will continue the spirit of founders. But largest successor state will slowly devolve into Brazil. All in all, bad times.
Get some niggers! So ready to wipe you dirty fucks off the face of the earth! Fucking Ungrateful scumbags need put down!
Blackpill concern troll please fuck off back to Shareblue. Nothing’s going to happen on the federal level.
>but he's not playing to his base anymore. It's the otherway around.
Trump has never been playing to a base. He's true chaotic neutral if you wanted to have good alignment left right alignment bad. Which is just what we needed. The only big pro-gun measure was the silencer bill and shillary started talking about how surpressors would have made the issue worse. The gunman ignoring laws did the most effective thing he could to try and hurt as many people as possible and it didn't involve a gun silencer. Compromising with democrats is done on the basis they have good faith of upholding any sort of bargain. The only bargain you can expect them to uphold is trying to get rid of guns entirely. Nobody mentions CCW reciprocity anymore and that was the basis of scrapping the silencer bill along with an atrocity committed without any fucking gun silencers.Most likely even in that incidence a silencer would have been more likely to make a gun malfunction sooner.
>favour
Concern troll bong fuck right off.
BONG DETECTED
Stupid word filter. I said left good right bad.
>infringed
>regulated
How bad did you fail 7th grade english?
No deal, gun laws are unconstitutional.
would rather have a wall to keep fucking caravans of shitters waltzing in and exploiting the system than jaguars in commiefornia.
just bring the jaguars over the wall.
Cutting funding to Mexico as well as sanctions are on the table.
Ask bigger than you want to the point of absurdity and insult; then negotiate down from there so you end up getting what you want or even more, while making the other party feel big for resisting.
Art of the deal.
You all could of voted for Hillary Clinton and you would of had better gun rights than under Trump.
What good is a wall if there's tens of millions of illegals here already and their offspring shitting up this country?
even if something does get through....which it won't, we still have a pretty good looking court to strike it down as unconstitutional.
I have faith in Punished Kavanaugh
Im a 1 issue voter unless my 1 issue isnt at stake. No deal famalam.
You could spend a $100 billion building it (knowing government contracts, that'll be the cost for just some chain link) and it would still be cheaper than the $135 billion a year illegal aliens cost us now. Even manning it with someone every 1/8 or a quarter mile would still be cheaper.
People say ladders exist and all that, but one could argue why bother having doors in your house when people can just kick it down?
Big difference having something, anything at all than literally nothing.
Trump already is rich, much like he said on the campaign trail, he can't be bought out.
I'm not saying he's a saint, but is it really that outrageous to think that Trump, a guy who grey up in the 70's loves America and wants to place America first in world politics, he's anti war and anti drug crusade because he's a true liberal meaning fucking leave me alone.
Sure he's said some bad stuff, like considering bumpstock bans but raisedtge idea as A B Testing the response and pushing it off to the ATF so they get shit on at the tine and then later he can go against it.
Voting on deregulation of silencers and the national ccw during the media frenzy after vegas was smart. He's going to wait and load the supreme court and 9th circuit with pro 2 A judges and revisit the issue in his second term.
You don't have to like the guy, but he's not dumb, he's a shrewd as fuck playing XD chess. If anything this is fun for him as a challenge.
Most politicians don't think long game, Trump does, because he's not a politician, he's a closer.
This but unironically.
The only time Republicans care about gun rights is when Democrats try to take them away. When Republicans have a supermajority gun rights take a back seat to tax cuts, corporate deregulation, immigration, militarization, abortion, harsher criminal sentences, drug regulation, investigation into democrats, and flavor of the day social issues like bathroom bills.
>what is the supreme court
>what are executive orders that could arbitrarily kill all imports with the stroke of a pen
This post deserves more attention than it got. Pelosi is going to spend the next two years being the prime bully target of Trump and his party. His party, because the purple faggots are the only ones washed away by the midterms.
>all of this "T-Trump will totally cuck, w-we're still relevant" ShareBlue cope
Eat a bag of dicks while you wait for your wall to be built or the next faggy rally you go to so you can suck Trump's dick.
>Us
This, losing the house actually helps Trump as he can blame all his problrms on Dems obstructing.
Granted there are still neo con never trumpers in the republican party that are doing the same thing, and if the republicans won the house, the never trumpers would be on the chopping block in 2020.
>if you lose, you win!
The future is fucking socialism. Workers would actually need firearms in order to overthrow the shitty and decadent capitalistic society we currently are forced to live with.
Fuck off we're full.
If the republicans still controlled the house/senate they would keep the court locked, and veto anything crazy
Like I said it's only when republicans can't actually pass anything that they even talk about getting back gun rights. With the supermajority they're always the last priority.
Guess you can't even cope with the loss of the House.