Hypothetical Civil War

So Jow Forums say shit hits the fan and a civil war happens over election fraud, or some type of major event and pits basically the left wing vs the right wing.

What would happen in that scenario? Tactically, strategically, etc?

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"California would have very short supply lines and the opposition would be crossing deserts and mountains to get there.

As much as conservatives might hate it, having this stronghold would be decisive. The Pacific states would be able to project power without any fear of California being invaded. The Army of the Pacific would likely attack through New Mexico, Arizona and Texas, with Mexican help, gaining access to the Gulf with the help of liberal Texans. There they can be resupplied by ship through Mexico."

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I like that post. I can see the Central Valley in California causing alot of problems

Why are Jow Forumsfags the only idiots who are too stupid to even post on the right board? I happen to know that Jow Forums has huge cross populations with /an/, /o/, and /mlp/ among others but I never see people accidentally posting pony threads here. Only Jow Forumsfags.

Agreed it would be a solid strategic point, though realistically the west coast would splinter into a chaos zone with large gangs/cartels fighting for power, plus the Chinese owned ports will be protected by hella mercenaries if not themselves. then theres the doomsday people in the hills that will never side with the city folk

Entirely this. Save for the cities like Fresno, Madera, Manteca, etc... But the people who grow the food are the angry conservatives who are heavily armed. Mountain routes into California would also be difficult to cross. Especially in areas that fall in the state of "Jefferson." The Mojave as a whole would also be hell to cross with supplies. A lot of angry conservative desert rats out there.

The cities of California would be cutoff from the rest of the country.

And the cities would descend into anarchy with niggers and spics preying on rich whites.

It's almost like a siege of an effective strategic move for the long game war.

There wouldn't be clean battle lines like the last one. Read up on the breakup of Yugoslavia to see the sort of fun we'd be in for. And with the US military too busy to play world police, regional hotspots all over the world would start going up.

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The fundamental culture and society California is trying to force is unsustainable and the state would turn weak and incompetent fast.

The patriots will triumph and wipe the treasonous fucks off the map and Liberty will prevail! I know im prepared to fight and die for what I believe in and I highly doubt the other side is even remotely ready to do the same!

true but it can still fight a war though and not be affected by long term consequences of their flawed system, look at the soviets

"Civil War" will not be a "traditional" war. There will be an increase in lone wolf attacks, that's about it.

The Soviet Union wasn't composed of primitive niggers and lazy Mexicans though...

Exactly this. All it takes is one guy to decide he's had enough to cause some serious issues. The Metcalf sniper comes to mind.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metcalf_sniper_attack

>Metcalf sniper attack
>7.62×39
Yeah, I bet he was an autistic Jow Forumsommando.

Enjoy trying to survive as a separate entity with no water imports.

Oh wait you wont survive, you'll become a Chinese protectorate.

Can't they get water from Mexico, Oregon or Seattle, etc?

Anti-material caliber is banned in CA. You would have to import from somewhere else.

California itself, or at least the California people think of when they think of California, is barely able to sustain itself. All the large cities have high unemployment/underemployment, high gang violence, high homelessness and require outside resources to continue existance. LA is a major feat in urban development in the desert, but without those aqueducts the entire city would literally dry up.

Well, I'm just imaging some angry kommando finally losing his shit, and decided to start shooting up transformers with his SKS.

>implying CA would be stable enough to coordinate anything
It would eat itself alive you'd have to be a retard to believe that California would be able to feed itself, let alone project power.

I'd imagine the "decider" for if Cali turned into chaos or outright capitulated immediately would be how much of the naval stations there side with the "red" side of things. That would tip things from "horrible but potentially managable" to "utterly fucked" if a few destroyers decided to sit outside of the harbors and toss tomahawks into the "blue" HQs and shutting down the only other supply route into coastal CA, because the eastern inland regions are all but guaranteed to be aligned heavily with "red"

The isolated secessionist get picked off one by one and America barely even notices.

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The only shooting of the second USCW are clearance operations against the defeated, like a string of Wacos or LA riots, that enjoy overwhelming popular support

The "military defecting" trope is ridiculous--the people who win the political games are 140+ IQ Harvardians who are far smarter than the average imageboard poster. If there was any chance of that happening at all the "civilian government" would gut the military instead of giving it ever more capable equipment and SOCOM a blank check and a backdoor around the AUMF.

The left vs. right shit is what keeps our country divided and weak. Most people can agree on most things. It's politicians and the super-wealthy that have an interest in dividing the public.

>What would happen in that scenario? Tactically, strategically, etc?
Leftists
>Their mismatched groups could start things off by taking over a city hall or two or hundred, and declaring their own governments across the US, eventually forming coalitions and junk
>Leftists could amass a great deal of wealth from donations, confiscations, and foreign support.
>They are in a race against the clock though, as cities are resource dependent. Some of their first moves will need to focus on capturing ports, strategic highways and borders with other countries to secure a constant stream of food, fuel, water, medicine, and ammo. They will be able to afford these things with their amassed wealth and have things delivered to them via black market smuggling (gangs)
>They dont have much weaponry, but they can take steps to change that with their connections to gangs (the ones they buy their drugs from), foreign support, and confiscation
>They have a great deal of manpower concentrated in mostly city areas and some suburbs. The revolutionary forces could quickly expand out from the cities, reconnect with their suburban allies, and press on
>However, they are woefully prepared for combat and sustaining operations. What members they have that are experienced in logistics and war will have to act quickly to order things around
>The untested and often bizarre beliefs that many leftist groups support might cause a great deal of controversy and frustration among their own forces. The rigidity and authoritarian necessities of modern warfare doesnt often coincide with their philosophies. They will either have to learn to but the reasons for their revolution aside to efficiently fight, or risk getting wiped out
cont.

>most people can agree on most thing

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Jow Forums and antifa twitter accounts are not "most people".

>right vs left
Lmfao. Lefty whites will be slaughtered by their pets almost instantly, then it's almost purely racial battle lines. Come into a big city, you can feel the tension and decades of repressed hatred building up.

Conflict between groups and government branches are what keeps the system too busy for radicals to take power. This is by design.

Don't forget the handicap of having an army of useless naggers

Rightists
>Their mismatched groups could start things off by engaging in violent attacks against Leftist, violent or not, organizations. Although in this day and age the Rightists are often on the defense, defending what policy objectives they currently maintain or has recently been gained through governmental means. It is more likely that, at least for now, Rightist groups form in reaction to a Leftist uprising. These mismatched groups would find themselves on common territory, whilst leftist groups would have a sort of "island effect". A great deal of coalition-building would have to take place.
>Rightists also have access to great deals of wealth, but given that much of the American right is made up of the White poor and rich, it will be the wealthy ones that determine which groups get how much support. Alternatively, foreign powers could also provide support, albeit with patronage.
>Rightists find themselves in resource rich areas. However, there is a considerable risk of being cut off from sea routes, cutting access to necessities like medicine and assistance to Internally Displaced Persons. Additionally, these groups have to watch over massive tracks of land with significantly fewer soldiers than what leftists have concentrated. Great Mobility will be necessary for Rightists to defend and attack.
>Rightists have a great deal of weaponry, possessing assault rifles, battle rifles, even fully automatic heavy machine guns. Steps would have to be taken to standardize the types of ammo used to simplify logistics
Cont.

Rightists pt 2
>They do not have as great a wealth of manpower as the Leftists do, and each loss is one that can scarcely be afforded. However, there is a considerable treasure of war and logistic experience among many Rightists, and many Rightists groups have been preparing for the end of the world since the 1980s.
>There is a great deal of diversity of ideas within the Right-Wing Spectrum of politics. Everything ranging from Anarcho-Capitalists to Esoteric Hitlerists. Some groups would be completely fine accepting female or minority fighters into their groups, whilst others would refuse to fight along side such groups. These ideological disagreements could cause infighting if these philosophies cannot put aside their distrust for one another.

>Additionally, these groups have to watch over massive tracks of land with significantly fewer soldiers than what leftists have concentrated.
That's a good thing you tard. It gives more room for guerilla warfare tactics, and if you think that a 2ACW will be traditional warfare I'm going to laugh at you.
Best of luck crossing the boomer-laced highway filled with bubba's IEDs.

Yeah because lone wolf violence never escalates into group violenc-

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The way I see it, the road to civil wars (and perhaps wars in general) is a long process of decline in political discourse and society itself to the point where even something insignificant gets blown out of proportion and becomes the excuse everyone's been looking for. Remember, the Nullification Crisis did not start the US Civil War despite how big it was, but the Attack on Harpers Ferry 27 years later effectively did, even though it was a raid of virtually no strategic consequence. Things hadn't deteriorated badly enough in 1832 to get the ball rolling, but by 1859, they had.

Every mass shooting, every riot, every twitter spate, every person who shrieks "FUCK WHYTE PIPO" or "FUCK NIGGERS" in public, every Confederate statue getting torn down, every scandal (real or fake), every youtuber who gets banned for wrongthink... It all contributes to the erosion of social trust, bit by bit. Yes, each one of these things is insignificant, but cumulatively their effect is devastating.

You're getting a lot of people who are "checking out" of society because they can no longer take it, but you're also getting an increasing number of people (both the vocal and the quiet) who see everyone who thinks differently of them not only as the enemy, but a deadly enemy, a plague upon society that has to be exterminated.

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jews could be wiped out in 2 months and completely removed from the west coast
once that goes down the entire western half of the country is red and after 1/2 year of letting niggers and spics riot loot and starve in the cities people go in a clean up whats left of blue resistance.

jaykwon and jose arent gonna be controlling waterways and raiding national guard armories

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>the people who win the political games are 140+ IQ Harvardians

OY VEY PACK IT IN FELLOW GOYIM!! DA JEWS ARE TOO SMART TO EVER BE OVERTHROWN!!!
WE SHOULD ALL JUST START TALKING ABOUT WHY WE NEED TO INVADE IRAN!!!

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They'll be in the National Guard themselves and far more endeared to their units than some racist teenager from the internet.

>the people who win the political games are 140+ IQ Harvardians

Except when they don't

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