Four (4) Missiles

>trying to lie this fucking hard
nice try chang

Based pajeets.

imagine betting btfo by fuckin poo in loos and still thinking grorious zhonggo has a chance against the US

F35's total internal loadout is 4 as well.

J20 however is based on the F22's loadout of 2 side missiles.

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>same amount of missiles as stealth mode F-35
>isn't stealth

American stealth technology has been proven time and time again to be faulty and unreliable.

and chinese stealth technology has proven to not exist

>the F-35 has a beast mode

how can vatniks and insectoids even compete?

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Beast mode doesn't exist yet, and I can guarantee there will be some issues with that thing carrying 6 JDAMs

Good thing our "carrying 14 giant fucking missiles" technology works fine then, huh.

I count six

China has been focused on other technology that America can only ever dream of. Chinese computer technology surpasses any western system by decades and the Chinese navy has stood its ground against American aggression. The J-20 has sacrificed a little bit of payload for other advantages not known to the F-35.

I think he means the Chinese are going to copy (big surprise) Japanese tactics and ram the plane into a ship.

t.

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t. chink state media

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Retards

OP means internal stores.

Maybe you'll unlock travelling if you keep shilling, Chang! Get those Commie Good Boy Points!

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By detecting the F35 on radar and shooting it down

OP can't count

See, you say that...

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I count 4 JDAMs, not 6

two internal

F-22 carries 6 AIM-120 and 2 AIM-9 internally

>Beast mode doesn't exist yet

Imagine having to lie to yourself like this.

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My country singed the deal for these moneyburners this week.
Could just as well have replaced the old F16's with new ones for a fraction of the cost of the F35 replacements.
Its not like we will ever need strealth when we only ever bomb muslims in te desert in nato ops.
Fucking LM lobyshits.

Those F-35's are not much more expensive than a new F-16 would cost you, and they will be cheaper in the long run since they physically last longer.

>14 AMRAAMS
I’m somehow okay with this

is that as much 25mm as it can carry? i feel like it isn't nearly anough.

when the fuck are they going to need it?

Top Gun 2

>beast mode makes the stealth fighter not stealth
Stupid mutts

so that's why the changs are not labeling the J20 "full stealth", they stole faulty and unreliable stealth technology and couldn't innovate upon it.

I thought the big moneyburner aspect was the development cost of the thing? Which the US ate the majority of.

icing guerillas in modified trucks doesn't require advanced countermeasures.

>needing stealth for 99% of the stuff the USAF does now
>It's easily removable

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dogfighting doctrine isn't exactly followed anymore, unless you're russia.

>Air to air obviously implies you're going up against a peer adversary, so you throw away your biggest advatage.
Stupid mutts are stupid mutts
>stealth aircraft designed to be very hard to detect
>put shit on it rhat makes it easier to detect
Stupid mutt

>implying gulf states, iran, etc. in any way constitute "peer adversaries"

>mutts use gorrilion dollar tech to BTFO retarded arabs
>still lose
How's Afganistan going my goblino friend?

We dont really fight peer adversaries these days. having extra munitions in instances where enemy doesn't have resources to shoot you down or field effective anti air is a benefit. besides f35 is designed around being a jack of all trades.

Great, ask any company with a Pentagon contract.

>we don't fight peer adversaries
but you're trying to completely overhaul your doctrine to fight a peer, and you fags are failing. I'm sure Russia and china are shaking in their boots of the trannies, spics, nogs, and women in your military. Oh and your retarded navy, and expensive air force as well.
>muh jack of all trades
Ever heard of the F-101?

Just wait until we get working micromissiles

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the only thing russia is shaking is all the saltwater from their boots after having their only carrier get turned into an expensive paperweight clogging up their docks.

the two on the side are internally stored munitions that fold out, then have the bay doors close behind them.

Initially, the F-22 also has flown with just 4 AIM-120A/Bs, only later it carried 6 AIM-120C.

The PL-15s are big missiles with superior 200+km range to the AIM-120D. China might want lower ranged and smaller diameter missiles with ranges like the AMRAAM-D to carry 6 internally.

Comparisson between bay sizes.

J-20 actually has slightly wider bays than the F-22.

The PL-15 is just a darn big missile.

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And J-20 actually has HMDS and HOBS SRAAMs.

The F-22 still has no capability to use the AIM-9X HOBS capability because of no HMDS.

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And your navy is still trying to find out how to see tankers in front of them.

>expensive air force
>detriment when you have resources to keep it running
poorfag detected

yeah if the F-35 is as bad as people think it is, imagine how shit that info must have been when it was stolen

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I don't know if those are pl15s
Actually I don't know what they are at all

Better to have a navy than no navy, Sasha.

They definitely aren't Pl-15s
Pic related is a real one

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They're PL15s

That's not the PL-15, that's the still undesignated PL-XX VLRAAM (anti AWACS missile)

The PL-15 is an evolution of the PL-12 with dual pulse engine.

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>Beast Mode
The Airforce is run by fucking weebs

More like retards

>a bunch of young, college educated nerds are coincidentally weebs
nah

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>being that low totam pole airmen having to set all those 25mm rounds

>has been proven
what

>fighter pilots
>nerds

nigger, ever tired to open your mouth to the stuff you know shit about ?

Chicoms have a hard time differentiating from the two, and we have no idea the specs of either, much less if it is in service or just testing.

This looks like a captive weight test. Look at the color difference between the engine and the head, along with no fins beyond very small rearword ones.

Missiles are stored in the internal bays.

For an air-to-ground mission, you really don't need to toss on more AIMs, you need more ground ordnance.

so then why not get drones for a fraction of the cost?

but we do have a lot of drones.
its just nice to have the option on manned aircraft too.

>Could just as well have replaced the old F16's with new ones
>for a fraction of the cost of the F35 replacements

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them pilots need fly hours yo

The only question will be if it’s accidental or not

"That one time in literally the end of the 90's when an early '80s proof-of-concept stealth bomber that pioneered the possibilities of stealth optimization got caught by a then-modern RADAR system"

>be russia
>every carrier in the navy is sinking
>can’t dock it because building on the water has caught fire (???)
>can we just talk about how much America sucks?

"just upgrade the avionics"
"the airframe is fine, can't you just make it stealth?"
why waste money developing a ground-up system, when you can waste money trying to apply those lessons to an out-of-date skeleton of an aircraft of which 90% of the complex parts will be replaced, just so we can keep the name/designation?

>be American
>live off debt-fueled economy
>have opioid and meth epidemic
>literally regressed to developing status
>talks about Russia to forget about the problems at home

>be american
>be lefty and hate usa
>pretend to be russian

Never underestimate a pack of angry spics and niggers. A single Raqueese from the marine corps could probably take on 10 or more changs and pangs, not to mention run farther faster with more weight.

>Just let foreigners fight our wars, the Romans just did it wrong
Stupid mutt is proud he is being replaced.

>being this asshurt that America is still the top dog

By the time it's running external ordinance they won't have little things like 'radar' or 'missiles' or 'running water' or 'electricity.'

what is scaling: the post

You can see the depth of the payload bay - How bad at lying are you?

>t. neverserved
Nogs in the Cream Corn are either motor T or cooks, not combat arms.

J-20 has 4 bombs and 2 AA missiles for its stealth mode while F-35 only has 2 bombs and 2 AA. J-20 obviously wins the stealth department.

And the two external pylons which totally destroy any stealthy aspect the plane might have going for it.

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and why not?
the technology, equipment, and infrastructure is already in place. I'd wager some of the people involved in the original 15/16 birds are even still alive. they could have been brought in as contracted consultants to help.

something that I've always wondered about. did the bean counters really ever sit down and crunch the numbers on this? should there have been a full ramp of of the f22, a re-invention of the f-15/f-16, or was the f-35 really just a money pit.

What sized bombs.

It's not the eighties anymore, you are not getting a $20 mil F-16 anymore.