Under current federal law...

Under current federal law, a person can be tallied in a database and barred from purchasing or possessing a firearm due to a mental illness under two conditions: (1) if he is involuntarily committed to a mental hospital, or (2) if a court or government body declares him mentally incompetent. Nikolas Cruz was neither. Elliot Rodger was neither. There's no law that could be passed that would've prevented either shooting.

Scott Israel, the Broward County Sheriff, called on lawmakers in Washington and Tallahassee to expand police powers. By allowing officers to detain people for a mental health evaluation on the basis of "worrisome social media posts" even if no direct threats were made. How many of you are gonna be screwed when this law passes? You no longer have to break a law to be detained by the police. You no longer have to make any direct threats to be involuntarily committed. If the government thinks you're "weird" they will now have the right to unconstitutionally detain you indefinitely. Does anyone else not find this problematic? I thought this was America.

Attached: betas with guns.jpg (529x396, 36K)

Other urls found in this thread:

archive.fo/9N7TV
youtu.be/5JoyD1iPnQI
twitter.com/NSFWRedditImage

But muh children!

>Scott Israel, the Broward County Sheriff, called on lawmakers in Washington and Tallahassee to expand police powers
>Scott Israel
>Israel
stranger than fiction amirite

Attached: 1540706654752.png (450x710, 247K)

I'd rather have a few innocent spergs get v&'d over posting stupid shit than another AWB

>I thought this was America.
and it is [spoiler]:^)[/spoiler]

(((Who))) could be behind this?

Attached: 1539729470432.png (491x456, 294K)

Alt-right is a mental illness.

Don't use social media. It's a waste of time anyway and is a great way to smear the metaphorical paint that is your personal information all over the internet.

>says here in your search history that you used the term "sperg" while posting on a prohibited website
>looks like you're coming with us

Don't act like you're not just as fucked as the spergs you mock

you dumb fuck
they'll push for it regardless
democrats push for anti-gun laws in states with less than a dozen gun homicides per year

Scott (((Israel)))

Attached: C73D27BC-ECC3-4341-80A1-95A093561F98.jpg (750x1000, 159K)

What if the lack of a social media presence is one of the things they deem worrisome?

Subjective laws are bad laws, they are the definition of "slippery slope." Laws should be painstakingly precise to prevent abuse, even if it comes at the cost of some bad guys getting away. I'd rather 10 villains go free than 1 innocent be wrongfully imprisoned.

Yeah. And then lose your guns by 2025 when they consider anyone not a pitiful subject under their authority a mentally ill individual.

This

Better than going to church and getting shot

>Loophole
Don't use social media

>What if the lack of a social media presence is one of the things they deem worrisome?
Who, a judge? Going to have to do better than worrisome there. Also:
> For the first time, University of Pennsylvania research based on experimental data connects Facebook, Snapchat, and Instagram use to decreased well-being. Psychologist Melissa G. Hunt published her findings in the December Journal of Social and Clinical Psychology.

This is supposed to be Jow Forums
>faggots with a "better them than me" mentality
>"just dont use social media"
>"better than going to church and getting shot"
I bet you faggots like to larp that when the government comes you will fight too. You fucking won't. Because the time to fight would be now.

archive.fo/9N7TV

They're just going to label any nonmainstream political opinions as "mentally unstable." Did you vote for Trump? Clearly you're a racist, sexist incel who shouldn't own weapons. Scared of your house being broken into? Clearly paranoid. It's literally a Catch 22 situation. Anyone desiring firearms is clea
rly too unstable to own them. It's like that British gun channel. He got his guns taken away because of all the wrongthink in his Youtube comment section.

lol god I remember seeing this pic on Jow Forums back when this whole debacle was going on. True degenerates, fuck open carry fags like this.

Any cop that tries coming for my guns I'll make sure to send them straight to hell.

Attached: 656.jpg (564x560, 72K)

Broward county needs to be bombed.
Save us from this menace, Saint McVeigh.

youtu.be/5JoyD1iPnQI
Video very related

>implying the violent spergs aren't sponsored by the ZOG

Have you been paying attention?

>if I give X, they surely won't come after Y

What were in the comments?

I think it's a problem because they do it before/without due process. The principle behind this is quite sound, because you want to stop complete wingnuts from having firearms. If there could be a hearing before they bother to confiscate things from you, things would be much better.

For real. All these mass shooters have had multiple police contacts, batshit Twitter posts, and family members that have long known they were bananas.

I work in a public office and I get contacted regularly by paranoid schizos, some of whom are very concerning, but because they just barely manage to avoid making direct threats there's nothing the police can do. There are a shit ton of people who need to be committed, but there's no legal framework to do so. Something needs to be done about that or else rights of the sane will constantly be on the chopping block of public opinion.

Posting on Jow Forums would disqualify you and they would ask for your ISP information to make sure you're not just using incognito mode to browse "radical ideology websites" or whatever.
This type of law would also not stop pushes for another AWB. Nothing will and anyone who believes otherwise is a fool.

>This type of law would also not stop pushes for another AWB.
If a law of this sort was successful in locking up the spergs and schizos leading to reduction of mass shootings there wouldn't be public support for an AWB.

>using any form of social media whatsoever
Having a LinkedIn is ok, anything else is a liability and waste of time, it's always been that way

Yeah. Alt right are a bunch of fags who love Muh based black guys and praise Milo. Far right is where it’s at.

>thinking you're going to be allowed guns in kike run Mexico 2.0
Topkek

Only non virgins should be allowed to own guns

>no snap chat
>no twitter
>Last Facebook profile update/post w/e was 2015? 2014?
>good friends with everyone at church
>bullet proof normie facade
>moving into a house out in the country where I can build a small bunker or 3
Check-make Zionists
>I’m also posting this on a tablet with no data using public WiFi

lel. I almost agree.

>zog
National “socialists” get the McGas too. But yeah. Appeasement never works. Look at the communists any time in history and the nazis in ww2

It sounds like a short trip to stalinist bullshit, but now instead of everyone but card carrying commies being the scum of society, only socialite socialists who live by the credit card and die by the bottle are real americans. Dissent a sign of mental illness. Possibly autism. You know, those weirdos don't follow the correct social standards set by the state and the People Smarter Than You(tm). Must be autism. How far will their standards go? Minimum number of sex partners if not married and you need therapy if you drop below that, to prevent another elliot? Mandatory diversity training that's just "the state is right, we are, trust us" for anyone who says something remotely racist? Re-education for opposing ANY current law or part of the government?

The #1 rule of emerging tyranny throughout history has been: If you do not benefit the system that maintains power for the few or are in any way a threat to it, violent or not, you must be stopped.

Are you a jew in nazi germany? Bye. Capitalist in the USSR? Bye. Christian in ISIS lands? Bye. Individualists in the united states of welfare? Bye. You threaten the social order, aka the grip on power held by the few.

>not using enough social media is a sign of possible autism
>you are hereby being summoned to a state psyc evaluation
>spoilers: the result is always autism unless you are a college movie stereotype normie

>There's no law that could be passed that would've prevented either shooting.

Biometric locks on guns. No ownership under 21.

Pick your infringement.

>I thought this was America.
Calm down, Randy Marsh.

You realize you're going to get v& aswell for posts on this "troublesome racists cartoon forum", right?

This

>if we just give them this inch they won't ask for a mile
Faggots like you never learn, do you?

How about this fag does something useful and arrests that baboon trying to steal Florida's elections?

They were his guns and he was 19. I'm sure he could have essily waited 2 years to kill those kikemates of his.

Shoot yourself. Seriously.

>TV: you are a fucking loser until you've lost your V card, you're not even a real adult, you overgrown child
>books: virgins are lost causes, there's something wrong with them.
>twitter talking heads: virgins are fucking worthless lmao it's so easy to get laid
>all the other kids with their pumped up kicks: kill yourselves, virgins. you're probably going to shoot up a school. virgins are less than human.
>this goes on 24/7
>virgins don't stop being virgins because being constantly hammered down for not being like the promiscuous niggas on MTV is causing them massive distress when they would have been normal and respected members of the community regardless of their reasons for not having sex until marriage less than a lifetime ago
>they look for things to blame. black people and jews seem high on the list for an obvious root cause, but it ultimately falls on the people directly harassing them - usually fellow schoolchildren

>surely virgin mental illness is causing all this carnage, they just need to have sex lol.

>this was not an issue 50 years ago.
>50 years ago it was easier to get a machinegun, everyone got a handgun from their friends' dad, and shotguns hung in truck windows
>and nobody thought "i should kill everyone at school"

yeah but it's the virgins
they just need to have sex lol. minority is always wrong. democracy, bro.

>Let's arrest these incels because they're weird even though they haven't broken any laws
>Let's turn a blind eye to niggers, spics, and wiggers who openly brag about shooting people in their rap songs

Found it. It was a channel called EnglishShooting, they revoked his license not because of anything he said, but because police found some right wing and "extremist" comments in some of his videos. He deleted all comments on his videos so I'm not sure what the police were butthurt about. They still won't let him shoot guns even though his channel is dead.

If we set the precedent that guns can be removed without due process than this is where you'll end up, anyone with the "wrong" politics will be barred from owning firearms. "Red flag" laws need to go to SCOTUS or we're fucked.

Attached: englishshooting.png (669x1107, 653K)

So because I was born ugly that means I don't get to use the Second Amendment?

It is the virgins though. Not because they're virgins, they do it because they have 0 (zero) social skills and no coping ability, and they're perfectly happy to spend hours learning asinine gun trivia and shitposting on Jow Forums instead of learning how to properly interact with other humans

General Washington warned us about making "allies" with any nation.
I'm not sure if you're referring to the group I'm thinking of, but if libertarianism is the ideology, National Socialism is the means by which it is enacted.

>first they came for the spergs, and I said nothing, as I wasn’t a sperg
>next they came for the asocial, and I said nothing, as I wasn’t asocial
>then they came for those who expressed political dissent, and I said nothing, as I had no such views
>then they came for me, and there was no one to speak for me

Every year there's 13,000 murders in the United States. No one ever talks about preventing these murders. No one ever talks about profiles, red flags, or gun control. It's only when some rare school shooting happens that everyone starts talking about these things. These school shootings are responsible for maybe 10 deaths a year. What is 10 deaths out of 13,000? Why are normies allowed to kill 13,000 people every year and no one says a word?

If the people you relate most to are spergs and autists you deserve whatever you get. Learn to be a member of society instead of outcast from it

What boomer fucking hell is that meme

Maybe it's because we witnessed several 20th century regimes push the definition of sane and imprison people we would consider upstanding. Maybe it's because we ourselves cherry picked and politicized crazy and cut off the last leg we had to stand on.

How do you objectively define insanity under these circumstances?

A man who wants to be a woman gets state-funded HRT. Maybe even taxpayer-subsidized plastic surgery.
A man who does not identify with his appearance and role in society in any other way is mentally ill and must get the fuck over himself and learn to deal, no matter how psychotic the dysphoria is making him. Bust out the AP pills.

A mere lifetime ago they would be considered normal. Virgins until they got married and roped into one relationship they enjoyed. Not extroverted, not prone to pursuing sex for the sake of pleasure, few friends. Such people were and still are NORMAL and would be COMPLETELY UNREMARKABLE if a small slice of society were not engaged in a constant campaign of normalized harassment. In fact, all they have to do to live this life is avoid the harassment, and many still do. It's those who are targeted for it who snap. Surprise.

Elliot Roger even willingly exposed himself to it via his favorite forum, puahate, a forum dedicated to accusing people of being "born to be virgins" and being "inferior" with "bad genes" for every possible reason.

Your post is part of the problem.

>someone is hurting no one
>attack them anyways
>YOU AREN'T PART OF SOCIETY
>YOU ARE AN OUTCAST
>YOU CAN AND MUST CHANGE
>person is naturally like this, actually can't change, it's an inherited personality that will never leave the gene pool
>Act surprised when they get angry/depressed
The correct opinion is

>YOU ARE STILL A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY
>SEX IS PERSONAL CHOICE NOT PERSONAL WORTH
>ALL HUMAN LIFE IS VALUABLE

yes, I am saying your shit manufactures criminals. like gangster rap for whites, spics, and asians.

The point is that trying to limit gun rights to some perceived meme threat to society is an extremely slippery slope, one minute its the spergs, the next it is anyone who isn’t active on social media, or anyone who expresses certain points of view on said platform which obviously means they’re mentally ill with ADHD, ASPD, and god knows what else. Case in point the USSR and schizophrenia.

>Let's arrest these incels because they're weird even though they haven't broken any laws
There's the daki cuddling variety of weird and then there's bizarre-conspiracy-ranting-Facebook-schizo weird. So far the Facebook schizos have proven themselves to be a unique and identifiable threat and something should be done about them.
>Let's turn a blind eye to niggers, spics, and wiggers who openly brag about shooting people in their rap songs
Nobody does this. These people are locked up all the time. Almost all rappers have a rap sheet.

t. sperg

Checked and noted

And again I would like to remind you that this is a problem only with current american culture. Not modern man. Not society with TV. Countries with as many guns as ours and the same level of accessibility don't have this problem. It's the US in the past few decades.

But it's their fault for going crazy and not your fault for driving them crazy. I'm going to find someone who already looks a little mad on the street and I will pester him until I find a good reason to say that he was born shit and will only ever be shit over and over again until he kicks my ass. And then I will say he was the problem and we need to ban fists. That will be my best impression of "one mass shooting a month" america.

And yet there aren't mass murders every five minutes. Ignoring the very real issue of people being declared mentally ill for political reasons, the big problem is that there are tons of complete nutters out there but only a tiny minority of them are an actual threat to society. There is no reliable way to tell which ones are actually dangerous and which ones are just unbalanced. Do you really want to lock up a thousand benignly deranged people for every legitimately dangerous one?

What if we just shot people who drew or shouldered arms in inappropriate situations

No questions asked, a gun drawn without provocation or good reason is a threat to the life of every person in that room. Guns are not treated like toys or fancy watches. A gun out of a holster is a threat and can only be present to neutralize a threat. Rifles must be carried cased.

Why does the mainstream media treat incels (who have a loose connection to 3 school shootings) like they're more dangerous than MS-13 (responsible for 4000 murders), Bloods, Crips, Hells Angels,and Muslims?

UK and Germany have so much evidence that they are completely devoid of the right to free speech. trash lol.

Attached: 1505879253867.jpg (600x804, 93K)

>More government=less government
Yikes

If you're going to be insistent that nothing is ever your fault and that you're society's responsibility, then society will eventually decide you're a problem they to deal with.

Get out of this persecution complex my dude.

The actual reason? An introverted loser won't fight back. Their parents probably beat them, raped them or chained them to a radiator every day for 18+ years so most of the work involved in getting them to just lay down and take it has already been done.

An MS-13 gang member will kill your pets, rape your wife and burn down your house if you so much as call their girlfriend fat. The only people willing to start shit with those types are cops who have to uphold the rule of law no matter what, people with personal vendettas, people with strong economic incentives, and head in the clouds politicians who can make orders and not get shot.

One of the most revelatory but at the same time depressing lessons for most "incels" is that although most people aren't evil, a good chunk of the people out there will become remorseless bullies if you show that you're willing to take their shit. Walk into a room with your head down and shoulders hunched? Now at least a third of the people there are going to subconsciously mark you down as a target to be thrown under the bus or blackmailed when they need something. Journalists are just these people with fancy titles and peer groups that pressure them into doing it even harder.

Stop acting like you represent society.

Attached: "consequences".png (1632x332, 122K)

Yet for some reason everyone treats the incel like he's dangerous and scary. Bitch you're not scared of him. If you're so "brave" go start shit with MS-13, not incels.

>Nobody can ever cause another person's actions

Alright, go outside for once. Go find yourself a black man. And call him a nigger. Don't stop there. Tell him he can never be anything but a nigger. Don't respond if he tries to justify it. Keep it up. Tell him why being a nigger is bad. Tell him niggers aren't part of society, tell him they're not even meant to be US citizens. Tell him niggers aren't even human. And keep it up. Harass him over something that is part of his identity and completely out of his control and do it as hard as you can.

If he hits you it was his fault and we need to ban assault niggers.

>implying NatSoc requires big government

Have you ever read the principles of the Third Reich?
The founding fathers realized the potential for corruption and subversion through foreign nationals attaining power.
This is why the president must be born in the United States.
They didn't account for the fact that so many naturalized citizens would still hold allegiance to their own land or the nationless "Jew" couldn't ever be considered an American.

Because they are easy targets in every sense of the word. MS-13? Poor Latino immigrants stuck in a cruel and harsh country with no opportunites. Bloods and Crips? Need mo money fo dem programs. Not to mention the fact that both groups would fight back. But the incels? Misogynistic white supremacists who are a menace to everything, even if what they all do is just talk on various message boards. Point is the media is trash and deserves no respect or attention.
That always flustered me, consequences meant people calling you out on your bullshit, not having your entire career or livelihood destroyed.

It's just a way to disguise yourself as the victim and not the aggressor. I bullied some poor kid when I was a teenager and it was the exact technique I used. I'd bump into him in the hallway, call him a retard under my breath, then when he gave me a tiny shove I'd recoil back and act like he started it. Then I'd play the victim, as if I accidentally bumped into him and he pushed me after I apologized.

I feel bad about it now, and I don't do it anymore, but yes. It's done for a reason. Very few people are willing to call you out as the guy who started it because you can just lump them in with the guy you're antagonizing.

that's different because the tv man said niggers aren't acceptable targets. only quiet people who don't fuck for fun are.

Yep, that's what's going on here. One of these days a mass killing will be done with a fucking flamethrower, and they'll still blame the guns. No, it's the cultural illness that outcasts people and treats them like shit until they snap. Once they decide that they cannot fix their life to change this, they decide to kill themselves and reject society in return- by taking a bunch of people with them, most of whom they blame because those were the people treating them like shit. Our culture is sick and deranged, and it wasn't always this way. You can call me a reactionary for saying going back to how things used to be is better than this; I don't care. You know as well as I do that what I've said is true. Until we fix the underlying problem, our rights are under serious risk.

I sometimes wonder why there is a spike in these high profile mass killings over the past few years. Some people thought it was a government conspiracy; I'm not so sure about that. I think it could be because certain social media platforms became more prominent, and perhaps the behaviors that drove these killers to snap became more common as well. Perhaps an increase in social media usage by society is correlated with this.

you'd think doing the exact same thing to black people for two hundred fucking years would have clued people in

>we marginalized people who were already different enough from us to kick empathy to the curb and treat us like cattle in return
>some of them kill us for fun
>they're more racist towards us than we ever were to them
>they're allying with other people saying we're an evil race and that we need to be wiped out
>should we try being nicer?
>*sgt. vining walks down the street*
>haha look at this fucking loser, he looks like he didn't have sex in highschool
>hey loser, you're fucking worthless kill yourself
>you should get you own drinking fountain to keep your beta male incel lips away from anything girls touch, manlet!

doesnt effect me I dont use social media

>I thought this was America.
It was; past tense.

As if I needed another reason to regret the cringey bullshit I said when I was 15.

They're going to do it anyway. They want a complete ban on privately owned firearms. Every "reasonable" restriction they do is because they know they can't eat the whole pie one bite. So every time you cede ground to them in hopes of preventing future laws they are going to come back for more and you will likely never get back that which you gave up.

Oh shut the fuck up, you fucking nigger.

>tfw indefinitely detained for weirdness
>End up living in a comfy mental health facility until 2050
>Both parents pass away
>no friends
>Just wander the streets alone and lost

Attached: Plastic-Memories-crunchyroll-300x169.jpg (300x169, 8K)

>posting on social media

reap what you sew.

The tree of liberty is watered with the blood of patriots... and sometimes poor innocent victims.

Life isn’t fair and we all pay the price for freedom. A loved one of mine was gang raped by niggers. during the rape kit they did a CAT scan on her head to check for potential brain damage. On account she had been so severely beaten. When they put her in the cat scan they noticed she had tumors on her thyroid. Come to find out she not only has thyroid cancer, but cancer of the lungs and lymph nodes. My friend found out she had cancer after she got gang raped and is now in the process of dying.

My point is life sucks sometimes and the most horrible shit happens to multiple innocent people everyday. An youll never stop it. with these fucking retarded dumb shit laws. Its nothing that can be helped. Shit just happens. But not to some comfy pig whos got a herd of porkers to protect his shit. An doesn’t need to worry about rape. Nope; Violence will always happen, and all there doing is taking peoples rights to protect themselves. Fucking faggots. Also
>Israel
TOP FUCKIN KEK M8 i love a good stereotype.

Attached: 355A25E0-3E66-42CD-B3BC-BA9FFD4287C7.jpg (1434x2921, 290K)

>TFW you know why NSF guys just walked back and forth, they descended from beta LARPers.

Attached: nsf.jpg (600x245, 13K)

Ok it's not #allvirgins but it almost certainly is always people who lack social ques which most of them who do are virgins, the problem is the internet and texting instead of personal interactions, the rise in those mare it harder for people who have trouble learning social skills to get practice

Fucking repulsive hambeasts because you're desperate isn't really any better

>Woman comes presupplied with disaster fat reserves

That is some prime faggotry right there. Good job. 1 dick has been deposited in your account.

Lmao I've never had to, but you should give it a shot you've got to start somewhere not everyone gets there cute petite girl that they want.

This one of my old highschool friends is a 22yr virgin and he is which a jaded autismo now, he was at least somewhat normal but after highschool he just fell off the deep end now, one of my other buds has had multiple GFs but is saving himself for marriage and this guy acts like it's a crime against him because he could have sex but choses not too while he can't get any