Hey Jow Forumsomrades, HBO's new Chernobyl show is out and I need help identifying this rifle from the trailer...

It's a mosin carbine of some sort. No bayonet. Could be Russian, could be Chinese, hell could even be Airsoft.

>Mosins were issued in FUCKING AFGHANISTAN
>Conscript in Ukraine not being given whatever bullshit they had lying about
>Not knowing the USSR had multiple levels of priority for troops and was issuing AKMs, AK74s, and mosins simultaneously.
Yeah, you're a faggot

That guy is probably more like a police officer than a soldier.

M91/59??

>can't get the details right
Which details?

Why the fuck are they all British

The creators wanted to make the show easier to relate to so you didn't feel like you were watching a documentary or foreign film

I can relate to Russiqns more easily than Brits desu.

Stellan Skarsgard is Swedish. Kinda brings him full circle considering the first movie most Americans ever saw him in was The Hunt For Red October.

>my daddy was in duh army so I know who was issued what! Wah hbo bad!

Ftfy

But it kills it for me, like why are white people in cinema always fucking British, even in America there’s so many Brits taking acting jobs. I also like how the guy from Mad Men that hung himself, hangs himself after he records.

not that guy but hbo is pretty bad
>british
>white

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>Why the fuck are they all British
Well, I imagine the thought process went something like this:
>We can have our actors try to do Russian accents, which will inevitably end up coming out wrong and turning our serious drama into a bad cartoon.
>Or we can just have them use their natural British accents which will still sound foreign enough to an American audience.

Actors never do Russian accents well, and it is for the best that they didn't even try.

You see, user-kun. The issue here is that was true for every single one of my older male relatives. That's how conscription works.
Likewise, they were from the Ukraine border region. They actually knew a few people who were called up to clean up shit in Chernobyl.

But I mean, fuck do I know. A liberal arts degree film-maker from Bongistan who most likely needed to get around the assault rifle ban sure knows more about the Ukrainian/Belorussian equipment during the Warsaw Pact than I have any chance to.

I’d rather they at least try and fail at a Slavic accent than have a totally different and foreign accent. They’re supposed to be in Ukraine not London. Like that one girl from the avengers.

All the actual soldiers in the show have AK74s and shit, the guy in OP is from a military gtoup called in to quell civilian unrest, how about you go shoot up some krocodile like your cosins

hes one of the hunters sent in to hunt down and kill pets

unrealistic expectations
it would just complicate things since they would need to find a bunch of Russian actors and translate the script into Russian for them and they would have to have a bunch of interpreters on the set for whenever the director needs to speak to them about something. Plus most normies wouldn't want to watch it if it's in a foreign language.

>implying normies will watch it anyway

>making shit up to sound cool on Jow Forums

I bet you can tell me all about BTRs your babushka drove too

In the previous thread, some of the posters were worried that the series, being a contemporary production, would inject some modern identity politics into the script to significantly deviate from historical record, such as have a Soviet scientist of African American origin be the main hero.

Today these fears were vindicated:

>As you may expect from a miniseries set in the Soviet Union during the 1980s, there isn't much diversity or female representation in HBO's Chernobyl. But one of the few women in power is Emily Watson's Chernobyl character Ulana Khomyuk. Ulana is a nuclear physicist who investigates what led to the real-life explosion at the Chernobyl nuclear power station in Pripyat, Ukraine. But while Watson's costars Jared Harris and Stellan Skarsgård depict people from history, Ulana never existed. Yet, Chernobyl creator Craig Mazin explained to Variety's TV Take podcast how the character of Ulana still represents a very real part of the scientific landscape in the Soviet Union at the time.

>The show portrays Khomyuk as the only woman involved in the containment of the natural disaster, however, the Soviet era history shows that she never existed.

>While Legasov and Shcherbina are historical figures, Khomyuk is the fictional embodiment of the dozens of scientists who helped investigate the crisis as it unfolded.

>Portrayed by the brilliant Emily Watson, Khomyuk understands the gravity of the situation better than anyone, and questions authorities on crucial issues at a time when officials are struggling to understand the extent of destruction at the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant on the night of April 25, 1986.

>Hours after the explosion at the plant near Pripyat, Khomyuk detects an alarming level of radiation sitting in her office in Minsk, realizing that the situation in Chernobyl is far worse than officials have led people to believe.

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>With the Chernobyl accident occurring in 1986, there's actually a fair amount of documentation about the human-created catastrophe. And Chernobyl writer Mazin told Variety how much research he did for the series. But while he noted how the show is "accurate to how dude-heavy Chernobyl was" due to many women not being in positions of political power, he created Ulana to reflect the real-life women who were prominent in medical and science fields in the Soviet Union.

>"Very few women were ever in the kind of overall ruling political body of the Soviet Union," Mazin told TV Take. "But one area where the Soviets were actually more progressive than we were was in the area of science and medicine, particularly medicine. The Soviet Union had quite a large percentage of female doctors."

>Mazin noted how the Soviet Union lost millions of men during WWII and so women began to fill positions they had never had the opportunity to do before. "And yes, they were absolutely included in positions of science," Mazin said. "And so I wanted to be able to show that and this was one area where I could do it authentically and historically."

It's on HBO, they probably will.

Anyway expecting it to be in Russian (an irrelevant shit language), or for them to use shitty russian accents, is an autistic and dumb demand.

What's more important is that they get the units of measurement right for the radiation, and get the individual events correct

>fictional embodiment of the dozens of scientists
wheres the issue?

>And so I wanted to be able to show that and this was one area where I could do it authentically and historically."

Wtf is the problem?

This guy knows

>fictional
>authentically and historically

>Hey guys what kind of bolt-action rifle in Soviet Ukraine might this be?

its a dramatization of events, not a 100% accurate documentary

>We made sure we only had whamen in a role that was actually staffed by them instead of shoehorning a chick into an unrealistic position
Sounds like they went out of their way to not fuck it up like usual

It's not made up, it's just nothing out of the ordinary.
Pretty much any ex-Commie person on this board who isn't underage has had his father and all uncles serving in the army at some point. Likewise, knowning people who went to clean up shit around Chernobyl is not all that rare either. People have done worse for less.

It's why there are so many movies, documentaries, books and even games about it. And why I choose to shit on this one in particular, given that it's basically someone's fan-fiction in comparison.

It's pretty accurate so far though, the guy they march up to the roof at gunpoint to report on the reactor actually got forced up there, and he died from the radiation.

>ex-Commie person
No such thing, commie and person don't belong together and you never stop being a sub human.

Point out specific inaccuracies or GTFO

yes the details are accurate but the show isn't trying to be a 1:1 recreation, its why ARS symptoms are getting sped up and its why they're inventing this character to take the place of dozens of other people. It's a five episode show so they need to cut corners

>its why ARS symptoms are getting sped up
This is going to e a big hangup for people, they'll toss shit at the show for it just watch.

Loved the 1st episode and will watch the whole thing but as I found out the directors angle there are holes in it. Since the initial accident is covered the show is going into the tug of war between nuclear scientists and bureaucrats with basically the bureaucrats trying to downplay the situation over the scientists speaking truth to power.

While absolutely correct in pointing out the insane cover up it turns out the Soviet bureaucrats were right over the total evacuation being a overreaction. The radiation levels caused far less deaths than originally thought. This docudrama will miss this part of the story.

We evacuated people during 3MI over a fucking steam vent. When your reactor blows up, you get everyone the fuck out.

>this much coping and excuses to put womyn in the show.
No one who had any idea of how bad it could have been would have willing gone near that cluster fuck let alone any women

No joking, looks like a Arisaka.

The only women in the show so far are a nurse in the maternity ward, and a firefighter's wife (who actually existed and their story arc is from a book on the accident)

Right but that was the area around the plant. The Chernobyl evacuation was a overreach and the actual civilian cancer cases were caused by contaminated milk and produce not proximity to the nuclear power plant.

>The Chernobyl evacuation was a overreach
I don't think so, given the situation I think it was an appropriate precaution.

>lid blows off a nuclear fucking reactor
>burns into the open air for like a month
>I dunno tovarisch should,we evacuate the town??????

>I dunno tovarisch should,we evacuate the town??????

Nah, sounds expensive, and it will make us look bad. It's probably fine, besides I'm sure it's not that much radiation.

>Evacuate
>No cancer because you evacuated
>Obviously because the people who evacuated didn't die you didn't need to evacuate

I agree to disagree , at least read this Forbes article on possible over dramatizing the events.
forbes.com/sites/michaelshellenberger/2019/05/09/the-reason-they-fictionalize-nuclear-disasters-like-chernobyl-is-because-they-kill-so-few-people/#20d2bd3241fc

I'm studying to be an RP tech, I'm well aware. The point stands, your reactor blows you fucking evacuate.

The bong government has gave Hollywood massive tax breaks for filming here so that probably why there are more brits in films and shows

Evacuation is fine but 20/20 hindsight they should have dumped all the milk and thoroughly vetted the food supply instead closing off 100s of miles of unaffected land.

Have you considered just because Man in the High Castle depicts the best timeline doesn't make the writers actually based?

Yeah, so what you're saying is they didn't do ENOUGH.

You know damn well what they did. They may as well have made her a trans nigger too

Retard

Holy shit, what? That's some schizo shit dude

uh oh posting a teevee show in Jow Forums? that's the no-no.

He asked for help identifying a rifle, frigg off

I mean, it makes it better than most entertainment these days.

It's okay, I know sarcasm can be hard to see sometimes. I'm autistic, too, we all make mistakes.

Sorry, the last thread god mod'd so I was too focused on that. My bad

>expecting it to be in Russian (an irrelevant shit language)
Second most popular language on the interturd, friend.

And? Everything but English, maybe French/German, is an irrelevant shit language.

Because an all Russian cast is magnitudes harder to put together, and fake Russian accents are unacceptable.

Michelle Pfeiffer did a good one in The Russia House - a comfy little spy movie that too few people remember.

It's either a really skewed Moist Nugget or an Arisaka trying to be passed off as a Nugget.

and it made them look like a bunch of retards for cutting off all communication with the outside world / evacuating the city, getting proper medical assistance, not to mention making the situation worse all for >muh lenin
>then everyone clapped / banged the table furiously
sounds pretty spot on to me

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could it be a Finn nugget?

Guys

>at least read this Forbes article
You can't be fucking serious

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the article is right though. Nuke power is easily the safest form of baseload energy production.

By a LONG way, yeah.

Still, that other user was fucking retarded for saying evacuation was an overreaction. The nearly non existent injury rate in the nuclear industry is a direct result of NOT thinking such things are an overreaction.

>ALARA YOU FUCKING FAGGOTS

>Right but that was the area around the plant.
Tell that to Belarus

Jow Forums is only aware of four nuggets
>91/30
>Finn
>M44
>Handnugget

/msg/ would beg to differ. And it is a Mosin, specifically a M91/59 or a M38.(probably the M91/59).

>Mosins were issued in FUCKING AFGHANISTAN
[citation needed]

>The Chernobyl evacuation was a overreach

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>forbes.com/sites/michaelshellenberger/2019/05/09/the-reason-they-fictionalize-nuclear-disasters-like-chernobyl-is-because-they-kill-so-few-people
Here is the guy who said it:
>With hindsight, we can say the evacuation was a mistake,” said Philip Thomas, a professor of risk management who led a recent research project on nuclear accidents. “We would have recommended that nobody be evacuated.”
Now i don't agree there should have been no evac but i do think it should have been only the hot areas, at least scaled back to some degree.
Also since everyone here is such a nuclear expert explain how 3,000 plant workers contuined to operate reactor 1,2 and 3 for years afterward? Did they all die as well?

t.bh that was my first thought as well

Terrible russian accents are entertaining, though.

Hi guys this was from bbc series a few years ago which I think was better than the first chernobyl episode.
Better performances and more of what happened in the control room.
This is a short bbc docudrama done brilliantly.
Enjoyed the first episode of chernobyl but this bbc one is class also

dailymotion.com/video/x6tufjj

cringe. Confirmed for having zero taste

Ah, the wisdom of 20/20 hindsight. The exact right call is always easy to make when you know how things turned out in the end and have 30+ years worth of detailed information that was unavailable to people at the time, who were making their decisions with extremely limited information and under extreme stress.

Yes, the evacuation was the exact right call to make for people without all that blessed hindsight to help them out. It’s better to do it and then slowly let people back in as you confirm that areas are safe than to leave them there to possibly get irradiated. In situations like that, you always err on the side of caution.

The exact right call would have been to hand out iodine pills and the HBO drama is sure to point this out. I just learned more here. This wasn't 20/20 hindsight. If you want read this study.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5941133/
>According to the projected dose estimates calculated on the basis of the measured exposure rates, no evacuation was required for the overwhelming majority of the public in the 30-km zone
>However, another factor, related to the reactor situation, was taken into account
>The possibility that the core bottom would be breached, resulting in important releases of radioactive materials
>if the core were to interact with the pressure suppression pool beneath the reactor, could not be excluded
So now we get the truth. The reason a full evacuation was ordered was over the possibility of another explosion, not radiation levels. I take back everything i said.

It’s not hard to have at least an accent, I understand it being in English but c’mon.

Thank you for the only realistic answer. Not that I hate Brits but holy shit how come so many are in American shows. Could you imagine Sherlock Holmes played by an American.

>and fake Russian accents are unacceptable.
I’m sorry I forgot those people acted for a living

This

>Could you imagine Sherlock Holmes played by an American.
Why yes old bean. I can, actually.

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