Alternate history thread

weapons that could have been

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>John Cantius Garand tinkering with bullpups before it was cool

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sorta looks like an uglier (subjective obviously) FAL, its definitely not as aesthetic as pic related FAMAS/luger lol

reminds me of a sturmgewehr 45 desu

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this one too

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> 410 box mag
fascinating

he cant keep getting away with it

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JUST RELEASE A MODEL WITH A FUCKING THUMB SAFETY GOD DAMN IT
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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The most pure aesthetic 5.56 rifle of its era, but never adopted by anyone except Italians, Turks and Norwegians because too heavy and expensive.

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The Turks make an AR-15 upper in .410 which is pretty neat.

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Five-Seven before the Five-Seven, but also full-giggle.

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As a Frenchman, I appreciate your appreciation for underappreciated french firearms.

american gov't FALs. not a lot of change i'd imagine other than accessories but the idea of having us surplus fals is pretty neat.

Fuck the Five-Seven, H&K's had the slickest looks

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>You will never own an FR-F2
J'vous aime, mais maudit que votre gouvernment me fait chier des fois.

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I hope one day I'll be able to see one of the prototypes in person. A man can dream.

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Not the baguette but you can own a FR-F1 now, user. They're now C&R eligible.

Their government destroyed the FR-F2's.

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They're still manufactured (rarely) and in use, I'm sure eventually you'll be able to get your hands on one of them. You might have to get an Estonian or Lithuanian contract one and spend a lot of time and money to get one imported but you'll get one eventually fren.

I am surprisingly okay with this

>the Harpers Ferry Armory reopens after the civil war
>Troops storm Normandy with HFM1s

Et c'est pas fini mon ami, nos chers copains au (((parlement européen))) sont lentement mais sûrement entrain de serrer la laisse autour de notre cou. J'aimerais tellement posséder un FR-F1 ou un HK SL7.

You can't get firearms imported into France I think.

Tell that to the muslims.

And also, our country's armement industry got BTFO by our gubmint long ago. Look at Saint-Etienne, one of France's major industrial cities being known for its works in metallurgy and firearms, with if course the Manufacture d'Armes de St-Etienne (MAS) located there. Since the MAS closed, it's a fucking ghost town. There's no jobs to find there that's why nobody goes there, and even though there's a gunsmithing school located there, you might aswell go to Liege in Belgium because it's in tight relations with Fabrique National d'Herstal.

Kek, obviously criminals don't have any restrictions, what do you expect.

Brits especially have a fuckton of those. Even more sad, those developments would have been so much more better than what they have now.
>.280 British
>EM-2

Those brown noses even ditched their own ongoing strategic space program.

Wouldn't be able to get surplus FALs for the same reason as no actual surplus M14s, that fucktarded ATF machine gun receiver rule. At best you might get parts kits and loose components.

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T'es bienvenu au Canada :)

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Mignon la pic, mais le fait que les restrictions au Canada vont sûrement devenir de plus en plus nombreuses avec le govt en place me repousse un peu. Et en plus tu peux pas avoir de clones d'HK91 là-bas parce que le govt les trouvent trop effrayants non?

Also, while on the subject of Canada, you guys may be interested to learn that our stupid fucking laws caused a new branch of AR development.
First, with a NOT-AR that is essentially a halfway point between an AR-10 and an FAL, called the Alberta Tactical Modern Hunter...

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Then with an offshoot of the AR-102...
L'élection en Octobre va être un massacre pour les Libéraux et la platforme des Conservateurs inclu l'abolissement des restrictions sur le nombre de cartouches dans un chargeur etc.

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It still hurts

A scaled-down version of the Modern Hunter, in .223/5.56 and more coming.

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I'd love to have an FR-F1 too, is aesthetic as fuck

With this, so many things would have been solved way ahead. In my honest opinion.
>ref: I genuinely trust in rigorous finnish military driven autism in creating insanely good all-weather weaponry

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Merveilleux. Ne laissez personne marcher sur vos droits. Ceux qui veulent sacrifier la liberté de tout le monde pour garder leur petit confort quotidien et leur faux sens de sécurité merci à daddy gouvernement ne méritent ni la liberté,ni le confort, ni la sécurité. Et puis quand j'y pense, vous avez pas d'HK mais vous avez des SIG SG542 non?

>Rate of fire: Rounds per minute

La liste darmes prohibées était conçu par des morons et inclus, sans joke, la HK G11.
Ils on créée une exception sur les limites de cartouches pour la Lee-Enfield... même si les armes à feu non-semiautomatiques n'ont pas de limites sur le nombre de cartouches...
C'est pas des cent watts.
Would you buy an AR-18 derivative in 7.62x39?
Firearm manufacturing up here is getting fucking wacky, lol.

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The A2 grip is coming off but yeah that looks skookum

Ouais j'en ai entendu parler que les gonzes du gubmint qui ont crées la liste sont attardés. Mais avec ce que tu viens de dire, c'est encore pire que L'AWB aux U.S bordel. Le G11 interdit kek. Je m'en soucie pas. Y'a toujours pas de changements de la liste prévus après tout ce temps? Vous avez pas d'équivalents du GOA ou autres organisations qui défendent le droit des possésseurs d'armes chez vous?

There are plans to bring 'em into the US.
Hopefully the teething pains will be sorted out by the time that happens.

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Ils veulent prohiber une bonne couple de modèles, mais même l'étude que les Libéraux, eu-même, ont fait démontre que les Canadien(nes) ne veulent pas plus de restrictions, à part d'une couples de vielles connasses à Toronto.

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Fuck ultra fucking yes. J'suis heureux de voir que les jeunes gens sont relativement contre ce genres de conneries. Il a été fait quand ce sondage? Seulement au Québec où l'ensemble du Canada? D'ailleurs, est-ce que les québécois sont plutot pro-armes par rapport aux canadiens anglos?

2018/2019, le pays au complet.
Le gouvernement du Québec est les plus anti-arme, mais les citoyens ne le sont clairement pas.

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What about the Kilary type gas system makes it superior and more reliable than the AK? Could someone explain?

Génial. Enfin de l'espoir.
>Québec 93% against AWB
Glad d'être Français dans ces situations.

Comme j'ai dit, t'es le bienvenu.
Just don't move to Montreal. The entire fucking island is going to implode sooner than later.

It's nice to see the Leafs are getting more and more tired of bullshit restrictions

>Would you buy an AR-18 derivative in 7.62x39?
I'd definitely be interested in checking out one.

Any plans for the same but in 6,5 Grendel?

>Montreal is an island
Tiens je savais même pas tellement chuis pas renseigné sur le Canada. J'ai un frère qui s'est barré au Quebec y'a 7 ans pour ses études, faudrait que je lui en demande plus. Y'a biens une école d'armurerie au Quebec IIRC?

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>1900
Bit optimistic don't ya think

A luger mechanism in a rifle? Genuinely curious to see how effective that could be seeing as the lock would covert the front post as soon as you let a commie catch one.

I've been full SHALL for a long time, but clearly more people than I thought have been hiding their powerlevel.
Pretty sure that's in the works if not already released yet.
Aucune idée. Sorry.

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>Pretty sure that's in the works if not already released yet.
That's the next Jow Forums fab then.

eh honestly much prefer the 33
speaking of which when's zenith getting more of those fuckers?

beautiful

its a lever delayed blowback system, not gas. as for more reliable than the ak im not sure i have heard conflicting reports

Y'all know Grendel was just George Kellgren's other company, right? AKA the precursor of Keltec, the pictured Grendel P30 became the PMR-30.

And naturally I forgot the fucking picture, thanks Captcha.

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Dope, would buy one

Yeah, he's a living legend.

I'm aware, since I've had a couple of his more rarer products for a while. R31 is on my list of soon(tm) purchases.

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beautiful...

The T20A1, a derivative of the M1 Garand built by Winchester Repeating Arms, redesigned with a pistol grip, select-fire capability, and now able to accept 20 round magazines as well as off-the-shelf optics. Standard issue rifle of Confederate States Army paratroopers during the Second World war.

I got the idea from visiting the Cody Firearms Museum a few years ago where they have an actual Winchester-made M1 prototype with a box magazine and pistol grip on display.

>BOLD WHITE TEXT FLASHES ON THE SCREEN
>WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW MORE?

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:-(

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What's this?

The Madsen LAR, produced in both 7.62x51 NATO and 7.62x39, was also proposed for Finnish usage.
In this version its a strange but beautiful gun, with more rugged folding-stock and tube-stock versions being made too. It however fell into an odd hole in-between battle rifles and assault rifles, not being able of excelling in either, and as such ending up in the shadow of other rifles.

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HK SL7, I think.

Is that a FAMAS?

Yes.

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