Gun legislation compromise edition

>Do not post threads about gun control. They belong on Jow Forums.

You have to realize how few guns they have and how their gun culture is different from the US. They have a standing militia and all their people are required to serve in it and they're issued a rifle.

Any kind of registry goes directly against American gun culture

Post your state

>compromise
We compromised with the enactment of the NFA.
We compromised in ‘86.
We compromised in ‘93.
Many of us compromised with mag caps and other retarded features.
No more compromise, fuck off.

Nah, here’s a real compromise. Treat them like cars.
You have to have a license (read as: CCW), but it’s shall issue, and reciprocates in every state
You have to have insurance, but it’ll be cheap as shit since you’d have a lot of people paying into it, but not a lot of incidents that pay out.
The only hang up would be having to register your guns. But since that’s illegal, it doesn’t matter.

BTW, that only applies if you’re in public. If you’re on private land, you can buy any firearm or DD from anybody at any time with no government interaction needed. And you can do anything you want to on your own property, sort of committing other crimes

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>hey, can i have a piece of your cake?
>hey, can i have another piece of your cake?
>hey, can i have another piece of your cake?
>hey, can i have half of your last piece of cake?
>lol, relax bro, why wont you just compromise a little?
""Compromise""

more reasonable

>a registry
That’s illegal in my state.
>have to lock up a gun you’ll need to defend your kids
Your children may be retards that play vidya and never go outside but that doesn’t mean that’s true of everyone.

Instead of forcing guns to be locked up, give adults incentives to sterilize themselves.

I don't think that more machineguns should be allowed, especially in america and if they were there should be much harder background checks and better psychologycal tests. I generally think owning a gun should be harder for people who 1. do not know how to use them properly and 2. may not be even mentally or physically able to handle a firearm. This I think should mainly be applied to the states as most european countries with a lot of guns don't have the problem of mass shootings but at least the psychological tests should be harder there as well.

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the US didnt until they started getting famous in the news. Kind of the same thing as copy cat murderers

No

really? I have thought about that once because I got the notion that you really did't hear about mass shootings before columbine. But the problem is that now they're there and the fact that that autistic cruz kid with threats on his social media account was able to buy a fully semi auto pump action .30 rifle

>do not know how to use them properly
The problem is, the vast majority of accidental shootings are due to people that training won’t actually help. Either due to them being little kids (like four or five years old) or them being idiots that know the safety rules but don’t put them in practice out of laziness or “pfft, rules are for losers”

Here my plan for compromise
1) Remove all firearm regulations at the state and federal level because they violate the 2nd amendment
2) Eliminate the BATFE

I don't care what works for the Swiss.

This.

>works for the swiss
thelocal.ch/20190513/what-you-need-to-know-about-switzerlands-gun-control-referendum

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I'll agree to gun control if you agree to outlaw abortion and take away women's suffrage.

See? Compromise.

>if there is a child in the house the guns should be locked up unless there is some way to ensure the kid has been evaluated and trained. think drivers ed. unless kid is 18
Fuck you very much, I don't need daddy government to tell me how to live my life.

As long as registration is not necessary to own, only to transfer, I'm fine with it.
Would even just flat place all semi auto firearm transfers on NFA, with e-file wait of under 10 business days (and bound to transferee or trust/business entity). All manual actions should stay with current rules because sporting purpose. Grandfathered firearms and 80% or actual DIY builds must somehow remain legal as well.

Cuck

>This I think should mainly be applied to the states as most european countries with a lot of guns don't have the problem of mass shootings
Neither does America. If you were actually interested in facts instead of political rhetoric, you could easily google statistics on "gun crime" in America, and come to a simple conclusion: gun control is not needed.

White suburban and rural American neighborhoods are as "safe" (from a statistical viewpoint) as large European countries - it´s the inner city gangbangers and narco dealers who mess up the statistics.

Battle of Poland was 1939.

Well how would you set up fun ownership reform that can actually pass?
Current background checks are absolutely useless, SBR parts of NFA are so dumb a first year CompSci tranny could come up with better definitions, and machine guns can't be registered, but can instead be easily illegally produced.

I have a idea for gun laws....

>none
Now fuck off.

>open up machinegun registry
>legalize suppresors
>legalize sbrs
yes
>more oversight on the movement of firearms. kinda like cars and bikes. you gotta transfer the title (god know how the federal government could do this with the amount of guns tho)
I don't see the point in doing this. Registration of firearms is a bad idea. Onerous paperwork doesn't stop people from killing. Look at every ban state and notice how despite all their restrictions they always have problems with gun crime and policies that unfairly punish and infringe upon people's right to arms.
>if there is a child in the house the guns should be locked up unless there is some way to ensure the kid has been evaluated and trained. think drivers ed. unless kid is 18
Then how is someone going to use their guns for self defense? Mandatory and verified training seems okay in theory but the logistics of implementing it, again, just punishes people, especially if they're poor, they might not be able to afford whatever training and licensing that they come up with. Also it's not going to change anything, because how do you enforce it? Legislating common sense doesn't work. If you own a gun, you should be in control of it. If you have kids, you should control your kids and look to educating them, the sad and unfortunate reality is that there's always going to be people too stupid or negligent and someone's going to die. That's the price of freedom. Limiting everyone elses rights because of that minority isn't worth it.

How many people and guns are their in Switzerland? America has over 300 million people and has atleast half the worlds fire arms. This is the same reason things like socialised health care doesnt work here. We are fucking huge.

fuck off

Hmm I seee ok ok good points
But
SHALL, motherfucker. Get fucked kike.

If we wanna talk crime most gun violence is done by gangs with illegal weapons. Who makes up the majority of all gangs in the usa? Oopse thats racist though.

Correction, we didn't comprise, we just gave them less of what they want. It's like dealing with a toddler that wants a bowl of ice cream but you just give them a scoop. You still gave them what they want, just not as much of what they want.

Fuck off, I wont be disarmed by kikes. Every new gun law Is one more attempt at death by a thousand cuts.

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I don't think that more free speech should be allowed, especially in america and there should be much harder background checks and better psychologycal tests. I generally think a free speech license should be harder for people who 1. do not know how to say the right things and 2. may not be even mentally or physically able to say the right things. This I think should mainly be applied to the states as most european countries with free speech don't have the problem of bigotry, but at least the psychological tests should be harder there as well.