Super Tucano BTFO

Super Tucano
ENGINE = 1,196 kW
Maximum Speed = 590 km/h
Service ceiling = 10,668 m
Empty weight= 3,200 kg (7,055 lb)
Max. takeoff weight= 5,400 kg (11,905 lb)


P-47 Thunderbolt
ENGINE = 1,938 kW
Maximum Speed = 697 km/h
Service ceiling = 13,100 m
Empty weight= 10,000 lb (4,535 kg)
Max. takeoff weight= 17,500 lb (7,938 kg)


How come Brazil with modern technology can't surpass stuff made before computers even existed.

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I'm out of the loop on the Tucano. Can I get a QRD why anyone is using a turboprop aircraft in the Current Year+4?

Turboprop > Radial

Long time in airspace (ground support), cheap to produce for use in uncontested airspace.

US is going to give those planes to some 3rd world countries, and they are afraid someone may steal their technology as those countries are not 100% trusted.

That's why they are buying an airplane model made by Brazil, if anyone steals them they won't even care. It is Brazillian technology. Nothing to do with american technology.

>if anyone steals them
It'd be like someone stealing a Yugo

I had my yugo stolen back in the 80's, I literally fucking cried

The criteria OP uses for comparison is irrelevant.

Add in electronics and guided munitions to your comparison.

One well placed 500 pound bomb is better than dropping several bombs hoping to hit a target.

The Tucano uses some US technologies though.

Because people think that cheaper = better, when the Tucano is (for an established Air Force) neither cheaper nor better

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>can take off from dirt strip
>can fly 30,000 ft to avoid manpads or AA guns
>can drop precision guided bombs
>can shoot down drug smuggling cessnas
>can conduct recon with advanced sensors
>only costs roughly $9 million a plane
>only costs $400 per flight hour
>makes A-10 fans cry
It’s a good plane that can serve in most regions of the world.

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It can also be refueled by 55 gallon drums. Do you understand how simple that is logistically. There’s a reason this plane keeps landing orders.

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Most planes can be refueled using 55 gallon drums. It sucks, but you can do it

Nigger JP5 doesn’t come in barrels

So how are you refueling your Tucano with barrels then?

Aggressive shilling on Jow Forums. Clearly the DoD lurks here and are newfags.

Why does a turbo prop need jet fuel?

so it can fly dumbass

Used cooking oil.

Why do people care so hard about this thing? It's meant to be cheap and easy, not cutting edge.

Do you put gas in your diesel engine as well?

Tucano is the .22LR of planes.

A-10 is the 12 gauge.

Cheap and easy is sexy. It's like the AK of the sky.

Because...that’s what they’re designed to run on?
Do...do you know what a turboprop IS?

No they are not

Then what, exactly, are they designed to run on?

The reason it keeps landing orders is aggressive lobbying and the USAF desperately trying to keep up "combat pilot" numbers despite the fact that unmanned aircraft are vastly superior for COIN.

>can fly 30,000 ft to avoid manpads

Not even close

Due to the MI-complex cheap and easy is cutting edge.

How so? It can Definately fly at 30,000ft

It's reasonable, no? Since the P-47 was the peak of aircraft design of it's time and the Super Tucano is the realization that you don't need peak performance to do the job correctly.

Better than a helicopter for COIN. Turboprops require a lot less maintenance and can loiter longer/carry more payload.

They're obviously not for serious wars.

Is manned aircraft in the modern battlefield even a thing which will keep going for the next 10-20 years?

Sensors and comms are so sophisticated now is there literally any reason to train pilots just to drop explosives on 3rd-worlders?

Also? With the state of modern BVR engagement envelopes I bet AIs are good enough to do most of what a human pilot does anyway.

>comparing air combat to CAS

robots have a much easier time with aerial combat.

Jp8 or equivalent you fucking retard

Which is jet fuel.
Specifically, it’s Jet A (read as: the kind you would put in a civilian jet) with a few additives, corrosion inhibitors, anti-icing additives and such. But you could put Jet A in a Tucano and it would work perfectly fine.

t. Work as a lineman at an airport. Have fueled multiple military helis and ospreys

Well, it”s not exactly Jet A. But it’s similar enough that they’re basically interchangeable

Exactly. Jp8 can come in 55 gallon drums

When did I say it couldn’t?

Well, you're basically comparing a interceptor to COIN plane.