Hypothetically speaking could the royal navy have made a difference in the pacific against the IJN had they moved a large portion of their fleet to the Pacific? Would their planes and ships be capable of holding their ground and win victories against their foes after burma and singapore?
Hypothetically speaking could the royal navy have made a difference in the pacific against the IJN had they moved a...
Justin Clark
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Lucas Barnes
yeah
Sebastian Lewis
Yeah, but Germany was the true enemy of the British. Japan was only ever a side show.
Brayden Wilson
That would have left them wide open to the germans, who were the actual threat
Oliver Campbell
no, the rn couldnt even stop unescorted ships going to norway
Adam Phillips
Britain could have stopped the Pacific War dead in its tracks in 1941 by doing the following:
>move 200+ hurricanes and spits to Malay Peninsula
>100+ bombers and attack aircraft
>Force Z now consists of 2 battleships, 2 battlecruisers, all 4 Illustrious-class carriers, and escorts
>4 mechanized divisions in addition to the 4 or 5 fortress divisions that were already there
>submarines
They needed a serious commitment because the Japs brought armored divisions and 600+ aircraft.
Ryder Walker
They would lose the air battle because the zero counter tactics were not yet developed.
Cooper Wilson
The pacific was a sideshow that took up 10% of the resources compared to europe.
Had the UK not already been involved in Europe, the Atlantic, Mediterranean and North Africa then the they could have solo'd Japan. from Indian and Austrilian Baes.
People forget that at the start of the war the US had the 16th largest army in the world and a relatively small navy.
Jace Barnes
The main issue would have been time. The UK was on the defensive, since German Air raids could strike their nerve centers, especially while they mobilize their fleet into the pacific.
Russo-Amerimutt here. We and the UK were fighting from very dangerous defensive positions. The only difference here was that America had ports on the pacific and Atlantic, meaning our navy was available to fight the two-front war, while the teabois would need to move a long-ass time to engage anyone who wasn't spitting distance away.
Luke Jones
Zeros were not some superplanes that needed special tactics to defeat. Furthermore a great portion of Japanese fighter force was A5M. Japan dominated the early months because they severely outnumbered the tiny colonial forces.
Juan Long
>the US had the 16th largest army in the world and a relatively small navy.
The US had literally the largest navy in the world when WW2 started.
Jaxson Nelson
>The only difference here was that America had ports on the pacific and Atlantic, meaning our navy was available to fight the two-front war, while the teabois would need to move a long-ass time to engage anyone who wasn't spitting distance away.
Brits had ports all over the world, including all over the Indian Ocean, Atlantic Ocean, South Pacific, and Singapore. The only ocean where Britain did not have a port in was the North Pacific.
David Harris
considering the RN's performance against the german and jap navies I'm gonna go with "no" on this one
bongs literally lost an entire carrier force to a dozen aircraft because they thought the japanese were too stupid to fly planes
Colton Harris
But their only shipyards were in the UK...
And they had ports available in Canada.
Connor Morgan
Not true at all
Jordan Ross
You seem to forget the RN destroyed the German Navy, and your second point is completely untrue
John Murphy
The Royal Navy did make a difference, they did fight in the Pacific
Elijah Torres
>TFW Royal Navy strongest Prince of Wales and Repulse got BTFO by smaller Japanese forces armed with fragile fighter and inaccurate torpedoes.
Blake Sanchez
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Hehe. Feel free to start reminding me which Japanese carriers and battleships the RN sank.
Jordan Myers
Well that's what Force Z was trying to do. A battleship, battlecruiser, and carrier is no small thing to laugh at. Unfortunately for the British they lost that force.
Had the war been only against Japan then larger elements of the Royal Navy would have posed a very big threat to Japan's ability to deploy warships or bring resources from the occupied mainland territory & islands. As thing actually were, ventually multiple British carriers were operating in the Pacific anyway. It's just that in 1941-early 1942 the Japanese had a lot of victories but they lost those gains as quickly as they achieved them.
Andrew Rodriguez
>tfw chinks & other bug people are now blowing up both their wrecks for scrap metal
Jonathan Evans
The RN was a joke in WW2.
Joshua Harris
That disgusts me. So many wrecks, graveyards, plundered. I guess that's what you can expect for people who really have no reverence for the dead because they think in a utilitarian mindset.
Jace Collins
Burgers got rekt in Pearl Harbor and in the Philippines, they rebounded by winning Midway, every little Pacific Island, to reclaiming the Philippines and setting foot in Japan before the big nuke.
Bongs got rekt in Malaysia and Singapore and were pushed back as far as modern day Bangladesh, what happened next? Why weren't they raping locals somewhere in Japan like Muhreens did in Okinawa? You don't hear about Bongs liberating their colonies, even the Dutch took back Indonesia for a short while until the locals decided to be fully independent.
At least the Brits who got their asses kicked in Dunkirk and OMG eventually kicked back Jerry's ass and set up shop in Germany.
Jack Price
>You don't hear about Bongs liberating their colonies
Wat? The Brits and Commonwealth retook Malaya, Sabah, Sarawak, Brunei and Singapore after the Japs surrendered. They also took over Indonesia until the Dutch were able to come back. Then they fought off an Indonesian invasion and then fought a decade of jungle warfare against a Communist insurgency in Malaya. The Hearts and Minds strategy originated during the latter campaign.
Kevin Murphy
>Hypothetically speaking could the royal navy have made a difference in the pacific against the IJN had they moved a large portion of their fleet to the Pacific?
They did. They had a huge fleet that supported the US at Okinawa.
>Hehe. Feel free to start reminding me which Japanese carriers and battleships the RN sank.
They sunk the carriers Shimane Maru and disabled the Kaiyō and sunk the heavy cruiser Ashigara.