Post guns that were too good for this world
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Josiah Brown
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Brayden Cook
>pick up that can
Cooper Parker
I shouldn't even have to use these, there should be an old select-fire colt laying in every American's closet.
Asher Martin
>over engineered
>extremely complicated
>bulky
>ugly as fuck
>B-but it fire cool!
Adam Edwards
watch your mouth boy
David Johnson
Literally any slav gun that isn't an AK
>SR1,2,3
>AS VAL/VSS
>9a-91
>a91
>the original ak200/ak12
>pk variants
>every ots
>grozas
The list goes on
Justin Watson
it looks bulky, but i heard it's actually good to wield and very light. and while the action is incredibly complicated, it's much easier to field strip than an AR
Joseph Bennett
Papasha approves this post.
Levi Diaz
The FAL in .280 British. We had to dick around with .30 Cal for sixty years before the military finally decided that 6.8 might be a good idea.
Anthony Rodriguez
On top of that the size of the platform and complexity of action could be reduced significantly if they got rid of that autistic 3-round burst and made it feed and operate more like a P90, although that bizarre tumbling firing chamber is pretty neat the action is a bit of a mess, one way in which watchmakers might not be optimal picks for a firearm design team. I'm sure if you sicced a 3D designer and some good software on this thing it's weight and complexity could be significantly reduced and you could also cut back a lot of the hollow plastic shell to get rid of some of the chonk.
Leo Morgan
But those weren’t canceled
Jordan Cooper
A couple of those were canceled due to Russia being poor as fuck
Jayden Flores
I don't get why someone doesn't produce an FAL clone in 6.8 or something nowadays
John Stewart
they took this from us
Ian Price
Kek I still want to see the rifling
Jeremiah Evans
it's a water pipe my dude
Jonathan Gray
So basically what the belgians did with the concept
Camden Myers
>IPG's 1 and 2
>Simplified and carrying 120 or 75 round mags.
y the fucc my pp hard?!
Luke Long
Name?
Asher Young
VBR CAR and CAR-2, so obscure it's on an offshoot wiki as opposed to normal mainline wikipedia.
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Asher Taylor
It was a meme
Mason Ward
>Le COD gun!!!! XDDDD
You must be over 18 to post here
Joseph Gray
Everyone who looks at this and gets scared should be banned from voting for their caveman like behavior.
Sebastian Brooks
>Knows G11 from COD.
You must be over 18 to post here.
Angel Bell
It was on COD like 10 years ago you fucking jabroni
Jose Nguyen
Jackson Morgan
I think its safe to say if you knew about the g11 from COD youre over 18 by now
Jaxon White
> Having pictures of kids that aren’t yours on your computer
Wow you sure showed me. You seem like a totally normal not mentally ill person
Gavin Hernandez
Have some more pics
Josiah Evans
Carson Sanders
That gap is really weird. Never seen another firearm with something like that
Luis Phillips
I know brother, it was a joke. Just like his top secret patented bolt design everyone wanted to steal from him
Asher Butler
based tumblrposter
Elijah Ortiz
Do I need to say it?
Robert Fisher
The lack of a meemore SA58 from DSA is shocking.
Aaron Collins
Thanks
Jayden Bailey
because rehashing an old design with a meme cartridge is an expensive way to find out that your niche taste is not shared by practically anyone
Julian Morris
What a faggot.
Jacob Richardson
You were supposed to just swap it for another one when doing maintenance,
Eli Perry
oh boy where the fuck do I start?
Ayden Jenkins
tfw a fucking powerplant can get the most aesthetic carbines and nobody will ever reproduce the FSP and it's fucking suffering
Isaac Wilson
To be fair I'm completely aware of why this was scrapped but I feel like if revisited in an intermediate cartridge that isn't fucking 8mm Mauser this would have been feasible.
Hudson Clark
Not too much of a mess compared to the G11, although I'm sure that enormous block of steel could easily be shrunk and streamlined.
Henry Allen
Yeah this was stupid, but it was a cool stupid. Are folding parts that are essential to the function of a firearm a good idea? No, never. But is a folding-stocked M-14 still badass? You tell me.
Sebastian Morris
>breech-fed single-shot grenade launcher that's main purpose was to be concealable
The implications of such a weapon are phenomenal. However, it's probably better these didn't go into production, as the war on terror could have gotten a whole lot messier if Achmed could plaster a convoy with a single 25mm grenade he was hiding in his pant leg.
Wyatt Davis
>aek971 and a545
Christian Diaz
>you will never be OSS infiltrating a compound with your suppressed delisle M1 CARBINE.
As far as I'm aware, these were all just modifications of existing M1 Carbines and thusly don't have a way of actually tracking "production". Illusive guns for illusive people, I guess.
Samuel Barnes
>rechamber in 10mm
>have the apex of PDWs in the palm of your hands
>compensator
>40mm
>3-way selector
I mean, it's fucking brilliant and so unfortunate it didn't take off.
Henry Ward
>incomprehensible screaming but in moon runes
Colton Smith
The complexity of the G11 aside, even giving it the benefit of the doubt of "It won't break in the field.", just seeing a video of the thing firing in semi-auto is enough to show the flaws.
It's a small round but when it fires a single shot it looks like a full sized battle rifle because of how light the gun is and because the entire assembly is recoiling. The long recoil system works for the 3-round and full-auto settings, but it seemed least efficient in semi-auto, which would be the most common mode it's firing in.
Gabriel Fisher
>American made FG-42 but better and simpler
Imagine living in a world so cucked. Then realize that you're living in the universe that the LMR wasn't adopted.
Jose Hill
>more incomprehensible screaming but with a haughty Moscovian accent because the lines are so fucking clean on this it looks like the Russian equivalent of a muscle car
Adam Wilson
Is it fair that Korobov's batshit ideas were canned because retarded communists couldn't figure out how they worked? No.
Would such an idea have been adopted literally anywhere else? Probably not unless it's 1930's Germany. But that's a discussion for another time.
William Howard
>two 30 round magazines firing 5.6x53mm flechettes with discarding sabots
>2400 RPM
>3 shot mag fed 40mm grenade launcher
>14 lbs
>in 1951
Sometimes I try to imagine what the world would be like if the SPIW program had gone through, they were using essentially the same requirements as the ACR program 40 fucking years earlier.
Tyler Johnson
Another MP-5 with a 40mm underslung.
It's fucking horseshit and such a good idea that ultimately lead nowhere.
Kayden Davis
>bulky
Its shorter than an m4, about the same height and is thinner than you think it is. You just think its bulky because it doesn't have all the same dead space with its tactical 2x4 design.
Camden Bailey
>not having a reaction image for every possible situation
who's the dingus now
Zachary Carter
God I love how the TKB-408 looks. The wood furniture and how the mag almost creates a thumbhole by lining up with the bottom of the pistol grip.
I hope that one day someone with a camera will be able to go to the Tula museum and disassemble the TKB-022 and some other Korobov designs.
Ian Kelly
The atomic era was so fucking far ahead of its time and it makes me feel awful to think about how far we would be now if everyone would have just gone along with it.
Angel Reyes
That looks disgusting
Carter Watson
>letting aesthetics stand in the way of glorious progress
You're just like the dirty commies that killed the SPIW program.
Aiden Gomez
To be fair, the Russians create a lot of neat shit that is totally alien to us in the west because of a completely different set of design parameters. What sucks is that when there is an inherently artistic deviation from those parameters that ends up taking the Russian ruggedness with the sleek usefulness and novelty of Western designs and turning it into peak aesthetics, it gets turned down and is hidden behind windows and locked in museums because some politician says it's not the status quo.
Landon Perry
We're still learning alot about atomic energy, gravity and materials science applications. We're heading to the moon and mars again. It will come but dont be surprised if its not weyland yutani and elon weyland that brings it
Eli King
That's how we went from the AK-12 and ended up with this pile of garbage And it's not because there was anything wrong with the design. It's because the re-tooling that Izmash would require to put it out there would have disrupted it's daily churning of AK-74s too much, so they decided it's not worth the hassle of making new ambi bolts and parts for the selector, took the easiest parts to swap onto the AK-14, and called it a day.
Blake Walker
God I love the spiw program, absolutely batshit
Dylan Butler
based, i have that book
Carson Bennett
>battle rifle recoil
I would lay odds that what you were watching is the 3rnd burst, not single fire. It looks like one shot but hits like a brick as you're firing 3 shots in 86 milliseconds.
The G11 was not that light and it was only firing 51gr projectiles at 3000fps. Pic related is single fire, notice the recoil.
Jason Jones
This is what chaps my ass the most. Had they put that thing out, and sold semi versions, or hell, even now if they set up a factory in the states for this (I don't know the legalities with the sanctions, fuck off) it would sell. EXTREMELY well. It's better than an AK. It's better than an AR. It was pure sex, and apparently therefore too good for this world.
Camden Morgan
the minds behind Fallout (re: Interplay and later Obsidian) gave us a peek at what our future could have looked like in a sustained Atomic age. And honestly? It's not all that far fetched. Simple automatons as robotic butlers, atomic powered cars and trucks, a strong America, it really warms my heart to think about alternatives like that. And I wish it had really happened; the unfettered progress of nuclear power, the growth of a space agency beyond what we can currently conceive, armored soldiers in atomically powered suits of armor, primitive focused energy weapons, man-portable WMDs, superweapons that were disguised as alternative energy sources, even the ideas of their alternate timeline. It's all so comfy.
It would have been a blessing to live in such a world.
Joseph Smith
Recreational davy crocketts when
Anthony Hill
Sometimes even if something is arguably better in some aspects it doesn't get adopted because there is an institution already built around another weapon. Not only in terms of political favoring or stubborn clinging to tradition, but in the fact that the tooling, parts, and training already exists for another weapon. Something that is a slight improvement may not be enough to justify changing up and disrupting anything.
I can think of an example in the West with the Johnson M1941 rifle trying to replace the M1 Garand.
As well as a Soviet example of the TKB-517 trying to replace the AK-47.
Though I wouldn't call either gun a straight upgrade of what it was trying to replace, just slightly better in some areas and possibly more troublesome in other.
Blake Parker
Not NEARLY soon enough.
Eli Myers
I always liked the Johnson, but I think the actuation would have failed them eventually. How does a reciprocating barrel even work with a suppressor? Is that even possible?
Jaxon Sanchez
I understand you're saying, and I agree with you. It's always the downfall of these threads, is because the underlying logic is that while the new system is BETTER, is it better ENOUGH? And the answer to everything is quite obviously "no". But does that make it hurt any less?
Juan Brown
It’s memory lives on in half life
Charles Turner
This was a workaround.
Josiah Miller
Agreed. Just looks like the internals of a double action revolver.
Zachary Baker
Rip Nelmo Suzano, you were too pure for this world.
Jaxson Morgan
it's not gonna sell if they charge 3k for a rifle, which given the costs of starting up a factory it probably will cost that much
Jose Ross
I also have it, love that book.
Isaac Gomez
I think I was. I rewatched youtube.com
Even when looking at the 3-round burst and it's effectively built for it, but I still question why it was needed in the first place. I see the G11 and I notice little things that stack up into the ultimate question of "Why?" I'm kind of amazed the Bundeswehr adopted it, it seems so situational, complex, and unconventional.
Matthew Perez
While that's true for the Johnson rifle it's a goddamn tragedy the Johnson LMG didn't replace the BAR, because it was better in pretty much every way.
Daniel Jones
The army raped the BAR with those shitty """Upgrades" they did to it.
Adam Bell
Tbh the Army Ordnance Board was so fucking retarded that the mass adoption of the M1 Garand was a miracle from the Heaven.
Jeremiah Wood
>Another thing stolen by the hive
>Cant even get one in america when they're cheap in canookidook
Xavier Brooks
I don't know of any plans to fit the M1941 with a suppressor. Part of the reason the Army didn't take it was because they feared the bayonet could potentially cause problems with the reciprocating barrel.
I get that too. These things are worth admiring and giving recognition when they were pretty much forgotten after any trials concluded. I just understand when some lament like something amazing was lost or soldiers were denied something that would have served them better. Yes, some of these designs lost out on a chance to shine, but the designs that did thrive and become widespread are still pretty fucking good.
Levi Davis
I'm kinda into the Chink guns just because of their novelty. Like who would think to repurpose your SKS parts and make more AKs out of them? Chinks.
Jonathan Long
Maybe it's just me, but I would pay that. People pay that much for scar 16s, or high end ARs. I'd rather have one of those beasts. Have you seen the controls being worked? It's fucking magical. This may or may not be the right vid. I'm phone fagging.
Brody King
>not 20 pounds of ass and pussy
Caleb Fisher
Also the Chang Feng / CF05 is a neat Bizon-esque pistol that looks like something straight out of Helghan.
Ryan Stewart
Yeah, it's the one. I'd reckon it can be done and sold for an average price of 2500 bucks.
Elijah Morales
>no grenade barrel
Matthew Williams
Peak killzone aesthetics
Angel Baker
Not gonna lie, I always found the type 81 more sexier than the normal ak
I just want some in burgerland god damn it, also do they still take stripper clips?
Lincoln Powell
I think the closest you can get is making your own with an fal lower mashed into an sks. Still pretty fucking kino.
Thomas Reyes
Oh god don't remind me
Hunter Young
Something like 20 made it to the US in .223 and 7.62.
They do not take stripper clips.
No SKS parts were used or modified for the Type 81.
Luke Roberts
The Johnson LMG is one that could have potentially been really good. The BAR's not a bad gun, but it was outdated in WW2. Same for the Thompson.
I can't believe they thought added MORE weight was a good idea.
Anthony Butler
There' a 87% chance that this was done by a Canadian.
Levi Bailey
It's so weird, but I really can't help but like it.