>talk about Italian Military present past and future >post pictures of the Italian miliaty and their Tech Tanks Guns Small arms Mortars planes etc >anyone been in the Italian Miltary talk about your time and answer questions on the Italian army >ask questions about Italian Army
Ariete modernization program is the biggest shitshow you could imagine
Gabriel Davis
Yeah, I'm looking at the wikipedia article on it, and it says the missile is IR-guided. It has another picture with a similar-looking nose cone. Must either be IR-transparent or some sort of protective cover. I'm guessing it's the latter.
My uncle is a very high grade AF official, flew Tornados most of his life I think he bombed sandniggers during the gulf war and he was awarded by the madlad Berlusconi himself Now he and my aunt (mom's sister) divorced, he was a pretty odd guy
are they like the assult troops or something The British have the green jackets who do the same and the Spanish have that gay looking forgine legion group
Jacob Long
When are we getting AR70 part kits in freedomland?
Kayden Walker
Light infantry. As for specifically what roles they're being employed in I'm not all too sure, tb h.
That rifle looks a lot like the NATO 5.56 rifle in MGSV.
Alexander Adams
Italian warships had such great interiors in WWII. Gotta love that art deco.
Isaiah Sullivan
goddamn that was fucking beautiful
Aaron Jackson
>tfw the Italians have better carrier capabilities than the UK
Leo Russell
Fun fact: This joke of an army has 200 "Ariete" main battle tanks, but can only afford to keep 30 of them running.
Grayson Torres
tell me more about the italian army?
i hear they paid the taliban not to attack there outposts or the area they were in rather then actually fighting them
Grayson Sanders
and they're dated as fuck and they can't decide if and how to upgrade them andd even if they do they'll end up only upgrading a handful of them due to costs which is a fucking shame since it's one sexy machine in their defence though, it's not like the situation is any better in other euro countries, and why would you want to keep something you're not using running?
Hudson Roberts
I don't think tanks are a priority. Italy is surrounded by EU allies and most of the territory doesn't seem ideal for tanks anyway
Aaron Ortiz
Dont know much about them but there's an Italian guy training here who's pretty chill
Jayden Long
It was not really a good design to begin with, they really should've just produced Leopards under license like everyone else. Maintaining 4 battalions of MBTs is not really much to ask of one of the larger EU economies.
Justin Ortiz
nah, I'm all for domestic design, but you're right, it was DoA despite looking rad
>, they really should've just produced Leopards under license like everyone else.
Fuck off, G*rmany. G*llic fucks always ruining Europe.
Kevin Allen
Well, Challengers aren't all that good, and they don't have the logistics to make operating the Abrams feasible, so I'm not sure what other options they'd have.
Angel Nelson
The field grade from sweaty ben are a pretty good deal. Note you need to install a winter trigger yourself. Mine smells like a cigar lounge, don't know how the Italians stored the stock, but would recommend.
Connor Robinson
1. Fuck you for accusing me of being a German 2. The Leopard is a great tank regardless 3. My point was still obvious and clear, even if you replace Leopard with Leclerc or whatever the fuck.
The AR70/90? It's like the posterchild of "I want to be an AR, just worse". Pretty much the same thing you can say about the ARX, tho.
Amusing detail, for some insane reason the itas kinda sorta like the Russkies. Must be Mafia brotherhood.
Alexander Sullivan
>Amusing detail, for some insane reason the itas kinda sorta like the Russkies. Must be Mafia brotherhood. Italy had the biggest communist party in western Europe and was always kinda close diplomatically to Russia. It acted as an intermediator between the US and Russia a couple of times
Carson Anderson
Wasn't there a guy in Iraq that got the only kill in Iraq with a knife was he Brazilian or italian. He got shot couple of times but lived they made a statue of him
Ryan Lewis
The Mistral is a LOBL IR guided missile What you see is not a cover, it is the seeker window. Although it seems opaque, it is transparent to IR in the right band (IR band II if I remember correctly)
Brayden Wilson
Not really The Cavour is way smaller. However, it is fully functional unlike the QE that won't be for another 2 years
The army is always the first to get budget cuts every time a new government is elected, we are lucky the retarded in charge now haven't dumped the F-35 and left the carriers without airwings.
Jaxson James
To my understanding we only have stingers. What is that.
Carter Baker
>Now he and my aunt (mom's sister) divorced, he was a pretty odd guy
My brother (used to be a pilot on c130) said that the ones on Tornado are quite strange. In a conversation while eating he mentioned that the guys from ghedi are strange, they stay in a bunker most of the time and are the core fanatic of the air force. Something equivalent to the Folgore in terms of spirit.
Jaxson Price
Give me the quick rundown on them. Any recent interesting purchases? Where are they currently deployed?
I believe that Britain has the largest amount of delivered F35s.
Hunter Reed
The right governments in Italy don t make the big purchases, this is something the left wing does so that the loud mouth leftists keep their mouth well sealed.
Some minor purchases have been made the army bought an undisclosed number of Contower ( a periscopic armored tower that can be moved via container) the number is something superior to ten and it will be increased. The Carabinieri are receiving the first 5000 d9 submachine guns, all of them will be given to the units that work oversea.
The 17° Stormo has ordered some armored dune buggys anything between 15 and 20
The program of modernization of the Ariete tank is going to take place next year's and will upgrade all 200 machine costing more than 5 million for each of them. It will be quite radical.
The successor of the AW129 is being drawn, its name is AW249 and will be a machine on the same weight category of the Apache armed with a 20mm to save some money ( I heard rumours that they originally planned to make something with the 25mm caliber used by the F35)
Brody Gray
>The program of modernization of the Ariete tank is going to take place next year's and will upgrade all 200 machine costing more than 5 million for each of them What is included in this? 5 million is 1/2 the cost of a new tank, and last I heard the Italian army wanted to buy Leopard 2A7s.
Jack Miller
Cheers for the run down.
Leo Torres
It is not know yet what are they planning to do. However with amv that will cost more than the tank itself I have expectations. The only thing I wish for is an active protection system against ATGM if they don't include this after witnessing the massacres of mbts in Syria and Yemen then they are just crazy. google.com/amp/s/oltrelalinea.news/2018/04/05/lesercito-ed-il-nuovo-carro-armato-ariete-ii/
Dylan Taylor
In terms of big scheme of things the website of the army gives you a good idea. With a big "question mark" we still have no plan on how to replace the dardo, which does need to be replaced somehow (and we can t just rely on 250+380 freccia)
The thing that bothers me most is that nobody in the west has something to replace the good old cheap m113
Aaron Johnson
How is the spending split between Army, Air Force and Navy?
Anthony Morris
It is pure schizofrenia
So the navy lately suck the leftists dick by acting as ferry boat for illegals, as result they got a candy from the leftists , an entire fleet ( a LHD, 12 frigates, something for the special forces, and other minor units)
The airforce wants the f35B that the navy is supposed to own and the army gets nothing and they pretend to be happy.
Jace Brown
They must be adding active protection with all that money spent. It will be interesting to see what else they are adding for that cost. I figured that the navy would be getting the good toys. It only makes sense as Italy has a massive coastline. I thought next on the pay role would be the airforce as it is so vital in every operation these days and the army last due to all the mountains running through the country.
I know you could never go to war due to American world control but which nation would you love to smack down if America wasn't around?
when you capture them from the sandcoons our glowniggers keep arming
Alexander Johnson
Carabinieri work overseas? I thought they were mostly a police force. What do they do outside of Italy?
Austin Hall
Minstrel manpads
Nathaniel Long
Fuck that was great
Hudson Harris
that's the most pasta thing i ever saw ... in a good way
Sebastian Price
Why do Italians love knives?
Michael Reed
no idea but I figure it's because that was about as high-speed low-drag you could get back in the day >virgin grunts stuck in a trench shooting outdated rifles with very little ammo and low morale vs CHAD arditi rushing enemies with daggers and grenades while singing kickass marching songs
Bentley Cox
yeah he was stationed between Ghedi and Istrana he was odd in the cooles meaning of the term, he never smiled yet at dinners he always told the most racist, hilarious jokes you could imagine without the slightest change in expression, and everyone used to laugh he also used to attach cans on strings dangling from the branches of the trees on his garden and use them as target while shooting his carabing he even brought me and my cousin to the range once, he made us shoot but we were just kids, so only pellet carabine for us
Robert Moore
APS, brand new armour, autoloader, 1500 (or 1600)HP engine, you know the drill why are we still stuck with the L/44, now that's a good question
Cooper Smith
Italian martial arts have always been rather blade-heavy, since most italian communes never enforced any kind of blade-control regimen unlike, for example, the german states. Also, since most of those martial arts were designed to be used for self-defense by city-dwellers (the italian population has always been disproportionately urban due to geography and history), so the favoured blades were generally on the shorter and easier to carry and conceal end of the spectrum. Come WWI and the italian army sought to give their trench raiders (Arditi) the best hand-to-hand training they could, so they basically used the Fiore della Battaglia manual along with Milanese cane/sabre fencing and sicilian stiletto fighting to throw together a somewhat functional close combat style that proved itself extremely useful. Additionally, some of the Arditi were also taught Judo and Karate, since Italy and Japan have shared a weird bromance for most of their modern history, and the Army had taken the chance to send some instructors to be taught in dojos and the like after the Boxer rebellion.
Therefore, at the end of WWI, the italian army found itself with a comprehensive and battle-tested hand-to-hand combat style that for a variery of reasons was knife-heavy and decided to stick with it.
Tl;Dr Italians have generally always been rowdy urbanites, so most of their martial arts are based on street-brawling, with an emphasis on maneuverable and unencumbering weapons i.e. staffs, knives and shortswords along with grappling rather than fuckhueg zweihanders