These 5 are the: -Project 885 Severodvinsk -Project 971.1 Gepard Project 971 Kuzbass -Project 945A Pskov -Project 671RTMK Obninsk And to a lesser extent: -Project 945A Nizhny Novgorod
Mason Lopez
That's what, one for every SSBN?
Aiden Davis
>this is your nation on post-communism Truly, the only drug more dangerous than communism itself.
Owen Howard
>inb4 “that’s okay, because they’ll build thirty seven brand new submarines next year”
Carson Ward
So 1 Yasen, 2 Akulas, a Sierra II, a Victor III, and a partially-working Sierra II variant? I feel like the Yasen is the only one of the mix that could go toe to toe with a Flight-III LA class, and maybe a Virginia.
Caleb King
Dunno, reportedly Yasen is much slower than its western equivalents when running at the same noise level.
Ethan Harris
From a brief Wikipedia scan, it looks like it tops out at 28 kn in silent running, but they'd be cavitating at that speed in most operational depths, I suspect. Meanwhile, wiki claims the Virginia hits 25 kn max. At the end of the day, there's pretty much zero chance Wikipedia is accurate on either given the classified nature of submarines, but given the fact that they're already looking to develop a successor to the Yasen, the Russians may be displeased with it.
Hudson Roberts
Thats 10 perfectly capable SSNs by U.S. standards
Bentley Anderson
russia has 4 oscar 2 active wtf is he saying
Ethan Lopez
>Oscar 2 >SSN
Isaac Kelly
I'm not surprised, they probably lack the resources the nuclear sub program really needs, which they arguably didn't have when they had the entire Soviet Union to call upon. The Navy was always the lowest priority of all the branches and most of its boats had to suffer through the 90's where they undoubtedly saw pretty rough usage.
Ethan Diaz
I mean, their sub fleet basically is their navy. Even their major surface ships like the Kuznetsov were primarily tasked with defending SSBN bastions in case of war. If they can't even maintain their SSNs, Russia's navy is in a lot of trouble.
Christopher Bennett
No, that money has been changed to pay for 72 PakFa's
Jose Sanders
I think the number was 76, but the point still stands. Russia desperately needs to figure out what it wants to focus its limited money on if it wants to produce an effective military. Operating less than 100 modern fighters in one place, and 5 SSNs in the other is a complete mess.
Jeremiah Reed
>retired naval officer >name in livejournal "Блoг Aлeкcaндpa Шишкинa" (Blog of Alexandr Shishkin) >redirect from his livejournal >vz.ru/society/2018/2/26/909612.html >Teкcт: Aлeкcaндp Шишкин, инжeнep-кopaблecтpoитeль >shipbuilding engineer Alexandr Shishkin, civilian, unemployed, and probably never was employed
Just some info for those who don't wanna have shit being poured inside of their heads.
It could become a serious issue for them in the near future, but this article is referring to nuclear attack submarines, or SSNs. It is worth noting that their SSBN (nuclear missile launching sub) fleet primarily consists of one ancient Typhoon, and fairly-outdated Delta-IIIs and IVs, along with 3 more modern Borei. However, Russia has allegedly cancelled further procurement of the Borei class, so they're likely going to see a further degradation of their SSBN capability in the near future. Given the state of Russia's conventional forces, maintaining a credible nuclear deterrent is absolutely imperative for their continued survival as a state, so I doubt they'll allow themselves to become vulnerable to a first strike if possible.
Logan Barnes
>pay no attention to his first hand knowledge as a naval officer
Liam Torres
its russophobic and not fake
Logan Price
>russophobia
Thomas Martin
yes
Elijah Gutierrez
>civilian, unemployed literally who in literally who online buzzjournalfeed.blog 10/10 Wikipedia source
NATO fags eat up their own rancid propaganda but then lash out when reality hits them like a truck and one of these submarines is revealed to be tracking their precious carriers on their exercises.
pathetic.
Cooper Adams
>literally who in literally who online
Angel Peterson
Considering we have more operational carriers than the slavs have SSNs, I think NATO will be just fine.
>carrier >operational in name only. in reality they are just useless junk made for propaganda. you couldnt even stop russian subs from tracking your carriers and exercises. even your newest one cant even launch planes even though its been in construction for +15 years
Lincoln Carter
Oof, vatnik seeth.
Landon Jones
>your newest one cant even launch planes Neither can yours, Ivan.
>Americans let Russians follow them and pretend not to notice
This is nothing new.
Colton Rogers
Funnily enough the Soviets put a fuckhuge amount of emphasis on submarines, the fact that the sub fleet is in this shape is not doing any favors whatsoever for the VMF. I wonder how the merchant fleet is holding up.
I see Admiral Gorshkov has risen from the dead to shitpost with us. We are all truly blessed on this day/night. Bet you also masturbate to Moskva carriers.
Nolan Miller
Ok retard
Nicholas Anderson
Their subs were literally the only place where their navy posed a signifcant threat to the USN. Without that, they're gonna be relegated to being a regional power forever.
Caleb Miller
>M-m-merely an act!.. ROFL.
Hunter Cruz
Turning around to try and stop a submarine from moving along the same heading you are is how you start international incidents. Freedom of navigation cuts in all directions.
Carson Campbell
this is sad. after a certain point it feels like beating up on a downie kid.
Christian Cox
>"Remind you that because of my education and health conditions I have issues with finding a job. Besides, I just don't wanna spend time on anything except my livejournal (don't wanna spend my time working to pay for food, rent, medicines). So anyone who interested in my blog, you have to pay me every month. Here's my yandex wallet and visa." I bet this shithead hasn't worked a single day in his entire life, lmao.
>Лeнингpaдcкий кopaблecтpoитeльный инcтитyт >Leningrad Shipbuilding University >only civilian specialities >nigger would call him naval officer
Can this be trusted though? I would imagine the Russians with their history of kgb and propaganda shit probably runs a solid disinformation club. I mean our own navy and airforce constantly plays the game of >"Russia beat us in this made up game we did, since we don't have enough toys. Gibs money plox." How do we know this isn't just the Russians playing a weird game?
Grayson Lewis
>I bet this shithead hasn't worked a single day in his entire life He's Russian, so you're probably right.
Colton Moore
Welp, I imagine the Office of Naval Intelligence has a very, very good idea of which Russian subs put out to sea and when, so some random article wouldn't likely change the US Navy's assessment of the situation. Especially since a lot of an SSN's job involves tracking enemy submarines, if the Russians are only running 5 fast attack boats, they'll know.
Could just be some rando larping, but I'm not really sure why a Russian would claim things are worse than they are, considering how bad things are at first glance.
Jaxson Garcia
Developing a successor is future-proofing their Navy. The Yasen class allows them to barely catch up to western navies with comparable capability.
Jacob Bailey
Well, I think the Husky class (current name for the successor in the media) is supposed to be smaller and faster like the Akula. The Yasens were supposed to counter the LA class boats, but got delayed so long that flight-III LA's outclass them, and that's not to mention the Virginias.
It’s not, though. It’s an SSGN, as its main role is to fire cruise missiles at carrier groups. While most US SSNs have a VLS as well, their main role is still different from missile boats like the Oscars. The closest US equivalent would be the 4 or so converted Ohio class boats that had their missile tubes turned into extensive VLS for cruise missiles.
I don't know, just having the shadow Russian boats pick up when they leave port kill it would likely have been dismissed as an accident for eight months or so it would take the Russians to get a 'rescue' team to the boat. Once they confirmed it had caught a torpedo rather then just suffering a fatal accident in Russian tradition they'd raise a fuss, but nobody would care much that Americans might have killed a Russian submarine a year ago.
David Mitchell
>seething with bitterness, the vatnik's imagination produces vivid fantasies of a rich and powerful Russia
I love recognizing the exact same talking points copy pasted in multiple threads throughout the day. Have fun in your dying country, Vlad. Maybe the next regime change will finally be a good one.
Anthony Ortiz
>Maybe the next regime change will finally be a good one. >where in reality regime change happened That what I call a good one, nigger.
anything that carries nuclear warheads is an SSN that bullshit distinction that usa makes is just their own way of spending more money on something that already existed
Parker Sanders
Nice pile of bullshit you posted there. >It could become a serious issue for them in the near future Russia has by far the most modern nuclear forces on the planet. It's the US who relies on a fleet of aging Ohio SSBNs armed with obsolete 80s SLBMs with no real replacemet and grandpa's pencil-dick Minuteman ICBMs from the fucking 60s. >It is worth noting that their SSBN (nuclear missile launching sub) fleet primarily consists of one ancient Typhoon, and fairly-outdated Delta-IIIs and IVs, along with 3 more modern Borei. There's only one Delta III in service, and Delta IV subs are not older than an average Ohio washtub the US has for SSBN. The main difference is that Russia stopped producing Delta IV and switched to top notch Borei, while the US kept crapping out the obsolete design until the late 90s. >Russia has allegedly cancelled further procurement of the Borei class You wish you fucking clown faggot. Meanwhile in real life it's the US who still can't replace their 70s rusted washtubs they have for SSBNs. Now shut your whore trap and sit the fuck down, faggot scum.
Everything is fake news about RUSSIA we have 5000000 armatas, 1500000 pak fas and nearly 350 fully nuclear armed subs along with over 12000 icbms
Austin Edwards
It would've been funny if it wasn't so ironic seeing how it's the Us who keeps claiming its stealth flying rustbuckets have 0.000000000001m2 RCS.
Nolan Davis
>this one russaboo screeching that yanks are sharting on his dream
Delicious, please keep the hits coming ameribros
Austin Taylor
Their demographics crunch is starting to reach the age of new recruits, too. Where will they find enough men of sufficient quality to crew these things?
t. Zeihan
Evan Davis
>anything that carries nuclear warheads is an SSN
never go full retard
Owen Hill
why are these garbage threads so entertaining? watching chinks seethe isnt nearly as fun as watching vatniks cope.
>Where will they find enough men of sufficient quality to crew these things? By 2050 Russian military will be majority Muslim and China will have absorbed most of Asian Russia
Blake Sanchez
>anything that carries nuclear warheads is an SSN
God you're a moron.
Christopher Morales
There's no rush to build a new SSBN if the Russian navy poses little credible threat to them.
Jose Johnson
t. has never read anything about submarines
Juan Kelly
God, the AIDS must be getting to this one’s brain.
Charles Morales
Well, the Chinese are fairly intelligent as a people compared to the Russians, so while Chinese shills may overinflate their own capabilities, they simply aren’t capable of the intense, concentrated stupidity that your average Russian nationalist can dish out.
Elijah Adams
China should to a land zerg grab for that sweet oil in siberia.
Jonathan Scott
sounds like CIA propaganda.
Cameron Brooks
They're already buying up a ton of the forests in the region because the Russians are too poor to develop logging operations. I imagine other resources are being bought up by China as well.
Andrew Wilson
>CIA propaganda >because the CIA doesn't want the US military to increase
wat
Matthew Wilson
do you also have AIDS?
Xavier Hall
>he doesn't know
DOD is 85% red state at low level and ~60% red at high level. CIA is >90% blue.
>the sky is blue >prove it fag, that pic's a shop!
It's common knowledge if you've ever worked in either.
Mason Martinez
Is that the crane that went plunging through its flight deck?
Nathaniel Brown
this
Jaxon Kelly
>It's common knowledge That's not a source. Considering the long history of the CIA being staunchly anticommunist, if they are primarily democrat, that's a recent change.
Henry Gonzalez
Yep, the crane's family later died in a totally unrelated mugging 2 weeks later. Real tragedy all around.
Daniel Moore
Can't wait for Russia to just wind up with one SSN, but it's the fucking Omega and it bankrupted their shipbuilding companies to make it.
