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my man just got some brass over bolt, use some pliers and suck it up my guy

should’ve built an ar-10

I'm the guy that wanted to convert a g3 into a bullpup (I have the machining skills to do it) but I can't get the fucking thing to work properly.

> he used the forward assist

>I had to take the entire gun apart
You had to push out both pins? Did you get winded jiggling the gun to make the rest fall apart?
>put a dent in the bolt
What were you using to make a dent in the bolt?

Dont use low grain cheapies boyo
150 and up.
Also buy a new bolt head kuz yer fucked m80

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Why would you buy a shit tier clone of an already shit rifle?
Oh that's right, to be a contrarian dick suck.

You're doing it wrong.

God that setup is fucking cool

I run the cheapest steel cased through my PTR, in a few dozen different surplus $3 mags, and it's been 100%

I bet you post in PC help threads saying your computer works fine, fucking retard.

>Ever believing anything, ever, at any given time from Jow Forums
>Ever taking any advice from Jow Forums
>Ever thinking that Jow Forums is a legitimate source of knowledge
I mean I know you're trolling, but holy shit. If you actually take Jow Forums's advice on anything at all, you are the biggest retard of all time.
More than half of Jow Forums doesn't even fucking own guns. What more reason do you need to abandon this fucking website?

i bet you start pc help threads in Jow Forums despite not reading the sticky and whine when no one helps you

I can tell from you making this post which is a Rifle Help thread

We need a sticky like on Jow Forums that says Jow Forums is not your firearms support forum

Not him, but you clicked on the thread didn’t you? Or is your PC actually broken?

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Fake news

>made on h&k tooling!
>just as good!
>no jams in 1000 rounds!
>try a different mag
poorfags and roller locks lmao

Look at this illiterate monkey. Doesn't even know anything about the word salad he just cobbled together. Sad.

I'm assuming this is a new rifle. PTR mentions a break in period in their rifle manuals. When I first bought my PTR-91, I thought I had a defective rifle due to the fact that I had multiple FTE within the first magazine. Some shells failed to extract from the chamber entirely, while others ended up in various states of semi-extraction. (Somewhat like yours if I remember correctly) The problem gradually began to correct itself over the first few magazines. Eventually, after 100+ rounds, the gun functioned flawlessly. Since the break in, I've probably put 2000 rounds through mine without a FTE.

Did yours have a retardedly strong charging handle? Someone else in /brg/ mentioned theirs being so tight they had to send it back. I think they're just cobbling shit together like DSA at this point. Battle rifles are ogre.

I'm not sure about the specific rifle you mentioned, but he charging handle on my PTR-91 is very strong, as it should be. The resistance on my rifle is not the result of metal on metal friction, but is the proper spring force required to reliably cycle the action. My thought is that anyone who decides to carry one of these heavy rifles should be strong enough to pull the charging handle. For what it's worth, my suggestion is that if you're not up to lugging around a rifle that is sure to give you a workout, seek something lighter than a G3/HK-91 variant.

The weight of the rifle itself isn't an issue, and I would say the motion of pulling the action is closest to a row. I have an exceptionally strong row, 120x5, probably higher but my gym doesn't have higher weights than that. I would presume my 1 rep max to be around 150-160lbs or so. Tell me what other single rifle requires that much strength to simply charge the weapon. I have a bone bruise on my inner knuckle and the side of my hand is bleeding all for just 6-7/10 rounds to be successful. Honestly if that's normal for a g3 fuck the entire platform, it's not even a gun at that point, it's a joke. There's no way it is though, I think this is just shit QC on PTRs part. I see videos of armlets pulling the handle with ease.

Like I said, I can only comment on my experience with my own rifle. Yours could have a totally different issue than mine, but the symptoms do sound similar to what I had going on with mine out of the box. For me, I had shells hanging in the chamber. This could prevent the action from cycling without excessive force on the charging handle. I suspect you have an issue with a tight bolt rather than a charging handle defect. In my case, I disassembled, cleaned and lubed my rifle. Then, without chambering a round, I cycled the charging handle back and forth a few hundred times. This helped to wear in the action without having to deal with the frustration of clearing jams. (If you're a car guy, think of the process like breaking in a new camshaft.)
After manually cycling my bolt this way, the action became much more reliable with only a couple FTE over the course of 2-3 magazines. After that, the rifle was thoroughly broken in and has worked flawlessly since.
I think PTR should either break these things in at the factory, or be more forthcoming about the wear-in process. Due to the nature of the roller-delayed blowback design, the initial tightness in these actions is almost guaranteed to cause some FTE issues. It seems like a huge marketing oversight to have customers disappointed in their purchase within the first few shots. (I know I was, but have since changed my mind...) All of this could easily be avoided with a simple disclosure or an extra step in the finishing process.

>I had to take the entire gun apart & pry this thing out, & I put a dent in the bolt.
No way a brass case is damaging the bolt.

Single axis bipods are only cool in theory.

Post picks of the damage. Any troll can pull the action back and pinch a casing in it.

>I have a bone bruise on my inner knuckle and the side of my hand is bleeding all for just 6-7/10 rounds to be successful.
Every heard of tools caveman?

>I have an exceptionally strong row, 120x5, probably higher but my gym doesn't have higher weights than that. I would presume my 1 rep max to be around 150-160lbs
>exceptionally strong row...my 1 rep max to be around 150-160lbs
Wow if you’re as smart as you are strong that would explain a lot of this thread.

At any rate
>have multiple failure with one mag
>blame the rifle
Also if your hands are bleeding from charging the rifle maybe you should just consider living in a bubble. Outdoor activities clearly aren’t meant for you.

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Lol

It's called a "dont buy a PTR you cheap-ass fucking casual".

Lift more.

A 160lb row is not exceptional and whoever told you that is laughing at you. That being said get the extended charging handle it makes charging easier and much more comfortable

>exceptionally strong row
Dude I do 3 sets of 8 at 140lbs and I’m not even fit

I don't train 1rm, can't because the weights don't go high enough. I know where I stand, even the ripped manlets can't row that much. Sure, roidmonkey powerlifters can do more.

Let's assume it took 120lbs of pressure to pull back... I mean just let that sink in, a firearm that takes 120lbs of pressure to charge the weapon. That's not made for a human. Every other gun can be charged with a pinky and minimal effort. The thing is too tight, no question, quit trying to defend their shitty quality. It's out of spec.

Single arm dumbell rows faggot. No you don't, you'd be fucking massive.

>sub 1 pl8 row for five reps is super strong
>g-guys I don't have lady muscles

You do realize that intermediate/decent lifters row 185+ 5X5 with relative ease? Whoever is telling you that you're the stronk is a retard.

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Does it not rotate on that collar? Because it seems like it would.

>have the machining skills to do it
You do?
>can't get the fucking thing to work
Clearly you dont

>my gym doesn't have higher weights

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This

Also, this.

How does brass dent steel?

I busted the paddle release off my ptr (totally my fault, not a defect resulting in a break) and they fixed it for free, only took like 2 weeks too.

The brass case put a dent in your steel bolt? Really? Did that really happen or are you just being a massive faggot?

Spoiler it didn't really

>why did you tell me it's a good gun?
>mine is good
>wtf why won't you help meeee I'm a machinist! retard!
cringe

>BraSs FuEl cAn'T DeNt sTeEL BeAMs

>he fell for the PTR meme

>assume it took 120lbs of pressure to pull back
imagine being such a god damn weakling that you think this lmao

Why can't

retarded plebbitors

like yourself

figure out how to

use single spaced formatting?

You're
100%
Gay

HK clones can take the wind out of your sails if they are not built right.

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like any gun that isn't built right

Holy shit.

No

You

>Rifle fucks up
>Has bad malfunction
>People are such dick riding faggots they cant believe a gun could fuck up

No, OPs description of what happened is very, very unlikely.
Brass is far, far softer than the steel used in the bolt so to say that it dented the bolt is suspicious. How the round is lodged in there, if you know how the rifle works, is also sort of suspicious.

the steel can do this to the brass and he expects us to believe the brass dented the bolt

I thought you couldn’t post porn on this board.

>C93
Found the issue

That's just astounding

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>century
It's like rolling the dice but the dice are really sticks of lit dynamite.

PTR hasn't used the original HK approved tooling machine and surplus parts for years now. That's how they got their rep as making the best G3 clone. Reminds me of when Springfield ran out of original M-14 parts and their rep went to shit.

Buying unusual guns without knowing what to check for can also cause that effect.

Where the hell did you snag that sexy sexy furniture? I'm looking at a few sites and it all says sold out

Who makes good G3 clones?

Kek. Only PTR. Better than DSA makes FALs by a huge margin. That's why the pretext for this thread is funny.

>Kek
Well you were close. MKEK is the company.
thefirearmblog.com/blog/2019/01/25/shot-2019-zeniths-new-hk91-g3-style-rifle/

Zenith is importing Turkish G3s this year.

OP update.

I charged the shit out of the handle and it's starting to show some improvement. I'm at like 200 charges and I can do it without using a retarded amount of strength.

No improvement on the FTF/FTE issue, haven't taken it out shooting again, but upon research the issue is not isolated to my gun. There are a shit ton of forum posts stating the exact same issue, and the response is usually "ya gotta break her in." The manual also states specifically that you'll experience hella FTF/FTE in the first 300 rounds. I'll eat my words if it's a break in issue, but goddamn what a shit show to sell a gun to people in that condition. I have seen malfunctions I didn't even know were possible that required complete breakdown to clear.

>Turkish
You think that shit will be better? The only places that make shittier guns than American mom n pop shops are Turkey and Brazil.

Yeah but Turkey has fielded the G3 as their rifle for ages, it's all made on existing HK tooling.

Bullshit, as much as it sucks to admit, canik makes better guns than many american manufacturers

damn, sorry user, I got the heavy barrel railed version and it's been smooth as butter, but I guess the premium options get more attention, hope you don't give up on the g3 or ptr, sure they'd make a wrong right

What you need is a glock brand glock.

...or maybe an aero precision m5

aka gun is built like shit

Well shit, now I gotta get a PTR. Mind telling us that awesome setup user?
Also is it true that they take bayonets?

When I was breaking mine in I occasionally ran into a weird issue where it would fail to eject. Determined the problem was the extractor not keeping the the base of the spent casing against the bolt head so the ejector never struck it properly. Bending the extractor spring a little resolved the issue for me and that was 1000 rounds ago. If you don't want to do that a new extractor spring is like $6 and will be faster than sending it back to PTR.

Go ahead and post your "dented bolt" faggot.

You need a different cocking tube cap to accept bayonets. They're pretty cheap though.

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That is an amazing setup user. Thank you for the info.

Loling at your life

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Steel wins in bras vs steel. What he's describing can't happen.

>ptr doesn't use the HK tooling anymore...
Uhhh, sauce? It makes no sense that they would scrap that.

And they do use surplus parts. Gi model uses surplus steel lower and furniture. Not sure if the trigger packs are surplus. They don't use surplus barrels and bolts iirc, arguably the most important parts. But I don't think old ptr did, nor would you really want to sell a factory rifle with worn barrels and bolts.

They did have a few problems with bolts failing a few years ago, according to Hkpro... but I think that's been worked out. Of course OP says otherwise... but it seems pretty dubious because brass would give before the steel bolt ever does...

Not trying to suck PTR's dick, but this post seems fucky.

Honest question, how are they appreciably better? I've heard good things, but they're also apparently the most expensive of the G3 builds. Is it really worth it?