I'm making a shadow box for my buddy, and obviously I don't wanna fuck it up.
In creating his rack, the relevant portion of his DD-214 reads, exactly: "...SEA SERVICE DEPLOYMENT RIBBON (2), AFGHANISTAN CAMPAIGN MEDAL (W/1 STAR)..."
Obviously the campaign medal gets a bronze star. But what about the SSD? (2) means twice awarded, right? Does that mean a bronze star for that as well?
Ribbon question
Kevin Bell
Robert White
bump
Michael James
Jackson Perez
Juan Powell
Somebody help this guy
Dominic Ortiz
yeah you are correct OP, small bronze star on the SSD.
Liam Morales
en.wikipedia.org
>A 3/16 inch bronze star is awarded for the second through the fifth award of the ribbon; the 3/16-inch silver star will be worn in lieu of five 3/16-inch bronze stars
Looks like it's 1 bronze star per award of the ribbon before a 5th award.
Nicholas Nelson
appreciate the support user
no idea what to google for this
Jack Morales
That's what I thought, thanks. Just wanted to be 100% sure. Any ideas why it's worded differently for the two awards? Just standard military fuckery?
Asher Gutierrez
If he was awarded the ribbon twice (you get one for each sea service deployment) he would have 2 bronze stars on it according to the link in
Luis Harris
I don't think that's the correct interpretation, if wikipedia is accurate.
>1 award - no stars
>2 awards - 1 bronze star
>5 awards - 4 bronze stars
>6 awards - 1 silver star
Evan Davis
Yeah, I think you're right.
Ethan Williams
Pretty confident in 1 star at this point, but will bump a couple more times, why not.
Christopher Davis
Liam Reed
Dominic Rodriguez
No idea why. My best guess would be that one is a medal and the other is a ribbon but that still doesn't make much sense.
Logan Allen
just checked my own dd214 and it says the same thing lol. stupid military
Carson Green
think I figured it out
en.wikipedia.org
>Campaign stars - For each campaign phase that a service member participates in for 1 or more days, a 316 inch bronze campaign star is worn on the suspension and service ribbon of the medal
The ribbon was awarded twice. The medal was awarded once, for participation in a single campaign, meriting one star. Looks like it is never worn without a star in general.
Final bump, closing the case on this one.
Levi Long
>GLOBAL WAR ON TERRORISM EXPEDITIONARY (CLASSIFIED)
do tell us user. we can keep a secret
Jaxson Smith
curious about that myself heh
John Long
>Looks like it's 1 bronze star per award of the ribbon before a 5th award.
Sixth, actually. Bare ribbon is 1st award. Second through fifth are denoted by bronze stars. Thus, the ribbon w/4 bronze stars indicates 5 time recipient. Sixth award is ribbon w/1silver star.
Robert Bell
The SSR can be received multiple times while a campaign medal is only ever awarded once. The stars on the ribbon denote multiple awardings while stars on the campaign medal denote how many campaigns you were in during the conflic. Modren campaign medals cop out on campaigns and do arbitrary generic shit instead of actual campaigns.
The ribbon itself denotes one awarding. The star denotes a second.
Hunter Hughes
thanks, this is the conclusion I reached as well.
wording makes sense now
Elijah Garcia
I may or may not have conducted combat operations in a country that the US wasn't officially conducting combat operations in at that time.
Samuel Rivera
>Any ideas why it's worded differently for the two awards?
The awards were given at different times, possibly at different units. The citations will have been written by different admin personnel. Whoever winds up generating the DD-214 isn’t going to waste any energy on standardizing cites. They’re on autopilot, copying whatever the citation says.
Aiden King
>Modren campaign medals cop out on campaigns and do arbitrary generic shit instead of actual campaigns.
also, "NEW DAWN" makes me fucking cringe. almost as much as OIF/OEF
Austin Gomez
Correct
Nathaniel Harris
funnily enough, it is consistent according to and makes sense according to
Kevin Russell
heh, nice
Justin Ross
>41580613
cut out the legal double speak and tell us what you did you fucking nigger
Aaron Foster
thanks for the productive thread
one last bump
Owen Carter
If there was one thing I learned in my Army career. NEVER let a Army General name anything.
Zachary Morales
He probably deployed somewhere overseas but there was not a specific campaign for that, like Okinawa or Spain. Those rate a SSD for example.
Brandon King
check the thread, the mystery has been solved
I wonder who came up with awesome shit like "Operation Overlord" or "Operation Barbarossa" tho? Some lowly contingency planner?
Cameron Bennett
ahhh fuck it another bump, I'm drunk
Noah Fisher