In a pure Jow Forumsombat situation (1 vs 1 / 1 vs many) if you could have one knife to help you in close quarters...

Gay as shit. The hand guard blocks it from you being able to turn the knife edge upside, do an upward thrust into the chest cavity.

Fairbairn says you're a homo

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Kukri would be my choice. The curved blade makes a swing deal more damage with less effort, which I appreciate

That's stupid as fuck, you posted the wrong knife. This knife, carried by SAS and plenty of spec ops. The purpose of the knife is to turn it side ways, so when you thrust into the chest, it by passes the rib cage and goes for heart, lungs, etc. So literally the only homo here is you.

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>changing grips inna knife fight
Stop watching movies, kid
Hammer grip and that’s it.

>that's stupid as fuck
That knife is the culmination of Fairbairn's life work and the final one he designed.
>b-but muh spec ops knife
Not for fighting, is for stabbing sentries unnoticed. The Fairbairn cobra was designed for "riot control", which in his time meant fucking gutting the rioters apparently.

Slash attacks dont do shit you stupid fuck.

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Weeb faggot

Jow Forumsukri bro

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You literally don't change the grip you fucktard, you pull it from the sheath as it. I'm m also in my 30s, so probably much older than your retarded ass. So continue to post, cause all you're doing is just showing how fucking dumb you are when it comes to the human anatomy, as well arguing against thousands of years of martial arts and proven combat techniques.

In the spirit of those who fought for my land of Texas, I am bound to pick the Bowie knife.

1v1, Bowie

1v many, kukri

Imagine being 30+ and arguing with children on a Himalayan salt tasting website

Nobody wins a knife fight

Incorrect.

The guy who has a gun wins.

That post literally means nothing, seeing as most ppl on 4chin are in their 30s (ty Moot for showing us that, how you lurk on our private info) it's not an arguement when I am right. Google how often SAS and other spec OPs had to engage in hand to hand, how many of them used either the double sided fairbairn, or a folder, or shit, a shovel or the rifle itself as a weapon. Many more deaths over than, than the kukri, Bowie, etc
Remember, Bowie knife was designed as a hunting knife, with fighting being 2nd. Fairbairn dagger was designed only for fighting.

TENNO HEIKA, BANZAI!!!

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came here to post kriegsmesser
beat me to it

Completely and entirely correct except for #3, replace it with a wakizashi or short gladius and its entirely correct.
>fairbairn-sykes
worst possible answer. It was a shitty ass attempt at an over glorified sentry removal tool that sucked dick even at its expressly intended task. Look at literally any contemporary opinions or accounts.
>infograph with wrong source claimed
>slashing with a pairing knife = chopping with a two pound 15" kukri
brainlet.

a real Ka-Bar

not the $7 Bud K ones from China

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>Bowie knife was designed as a hunting knife, with fighting being 2nd.
Demonstrably incorrect. The bowie knife was designed explicitly for defensive use, including against large animals. That's why original specifications called for a 9"+ blade with .25" thickness, with a sharpened clip point allowing for backcuts which were entirely a hand to hand fighting technique and secondarily aiding in the thrust for an otherwise chunky knife. Notably copies of the bowie pattern knife aimed more for utility/hunting use typically excluded the sharpened clip point, as it was both unnecessary and a slight hindrance/danger when processing game or doing general camp chores.

Im honestly baffled by the constant memery on here regarding fairbairn style knives vs XL sized actually historically respected fighting knives. Even a basic amount of research, or comparing the two in hand to each other for that matter, makes it plainly apparent which are better for actually fighting against a resistant/aware opponent. Hint: its the bigger longer ones that'd take an arm off at the forearm or cleave part way through a skull without much issue.

Whatever knoife is the biggest, and pointiest.

What the fuck is the point of a tanto, anyway?
Is it supposed to be more versatile? Is it supposed to still function well as a weapon?

Funnily enough in my country blades that are over 30cm are not considered weapons. Whereas daggers (symmetrical blades) between 5 and 30cm are weapons and are banned.

Stronger point. Useful if your steel is crappy, or your blade was originally intended for cutting up the nearly unarmored 99% of the time, and thrusting into the moderately armored 1% of the time.

If you hit someone hard with that Winchester knife it would break out of the handle lol.

I carry the weapon of my ancestors, the $5 Harbor Freight Machete.

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Most historical edged weapons were cut and thrust weapons. Even if they leaned more towards one than the another, they could still do both adequately. Only niche specialized designs could only do one thing.

traditional japanese tantos typically look like pic related

The one popularized by Cold Steel is the American tanto. The secondary edge and point have some limited utility value and their claim to fame is the strength of their point. Really though the reason why they're sturdy for thrusting is because most of them are ground retard thick and the actual design isn't that efficient for thrusting.

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>it has finger protection
You don't need finger protection since you don't parry stuff with your knife.
I would have something that can thrust, cut, allows the Capo Ferro grip (example - V-42 Stiletto was designed with one in mind) and that would have a blade about 2/3 of a grill skewer.
Right now I'm fascinated with navajas, but I wouldn't mind having a good long chef knife/bauernwehr or quillon dagger/dague

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Most historical fighting "knives" were dagger designs. Obviously specialized for the thrust, but with sufficient cutting capacity.

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More dedicated cutting designs existed, but they rarely gave up the thrusting capability.

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The clip point is a nice way of combining cutting ability (strong blade at the base) both for utility and combat with penetration (small tip). It is known in such combined purpose knives since medieval times.

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It seems obvious, really, but for combat you want a blade just heavy enough not to break in its intended purpose (cutting and stabbing into flesh and fabric, with the occasional hitting of bone). The lighter it is, the quicker it will be in the hand, and the more likely you are to hurt your enemy before he hurts you.

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This runs anathema to many modern knives, made stronger so they won't break when their owners will abuse them in ways knives were never meant to be used...

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Light and long is good for fighting. Making a knive shorter is only ever good for being able to carry, wear, potentially draw it. But in the fight itself, bigger is better.

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In close quarters? I forego the knife entirely and just decapitate the motherfucker I have to defend myself from with my bare hands. Apply weight down on the body, make a good diagonal wrenching of the head. Done.

I've actually had to stab some people. This thread is like /b/ talking about the best ways to get sex with a hot woman. It's part fantasy, part bullshit and part shit-you-heard-or-read-or-saw-in-a-movie.

yikes.

Do enlighten us then, oh great claiming-to-be-experienced one.

>capo ferro
will you counter with bonatellos defence?

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Better penetration and sturdier point.

kukrisucks for stabbing. I would prefer a stiletto type dagger any time and stab the shit out of my enemy.

Assuming they both have the same skill, the person with the longer reach. Assuming they both have the same physical measurements and skill, they both die, no one wins.

I would prefer picrelated.

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number 1 2 3 and 6 only look scary.
number 4 could be serious. number 5 - so-so, needs a closer look.

I don't get why people like caucasian daggers, unless they're not from Caucasus themselves.

But I am armenian.

Ah, I see.
Я тeбe oдин yмный вeщь cкaжy, нo тoлькo ты нe oбижaйcя - вce-тaки в Зaпaднoй Eвpoпe кинжaлы пoкpacивee бyдyт.

push dagger

Дa я и нe cпopю. Ho poднoй кaк-тo пpивычнee.

>Hammer grip and that’s it.
>Stop watching movies, kid
You know what? The more people believe this, the better my chances are of surviving a knife fight. So keep it up!

>Bowie knife was designed as a hunting knife
Yeah let me just use my 15" knife to clean some game.

Literally the only thing about crusaders I like

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Kopis

the pink one, im serious

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oh...with hand gloves of course

Mark 1 Trench Knife. Anything else is wrong.

gun

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Yeah, the classic bowie design is something like a short sword more than a knife. Bowie's knife that James Black had a 12 inch blade. That's getting pretty long for a "knife".

>Officers
1 shit tattoo and needs a hair cut
3 brown kid
4 shady beard growth
5 noodle arm

Okay, dad.
Also your pic runs counter to your statement. And I've seen 1 posted as allegedly inflicted by a karambit multiple times.

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Not a knifefag, but I'd pick something like this. You can slash and thrust with it.

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This is done by a 3'' blade or shorter. You can't get far with a camping knife. Daggers are something else to deal with

What Medieval dudes used

Sword-daggers. Pommel and cross-guard and a double edged blade. 12-16 inch blade.

I would use one of these. They were designed specifically for fighting unlike the Bowie knife. The Bowie knife was patterned after a butcher knife.
So yea one of these. The most deadly knife ever designed by man.

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Just remember that in a knife fight YOU WILL BE CUT

>fantasises about penetrating men
>not a homo
It's o/k/ bro, you're in a safe space amongst friends.

>Blocks your path

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Yeah, but in the privacy of an ambulance, so nobody will ever know you were a blubbering mess in the end, begging for his mother. Unlike the other guy.

It's all about saving face.

Trench knife imo, I'd want a guard as a last resort to punch with or protect my hand from a strike. This American Kami design seems about as good as you could get, if the guy even makes them anymore.

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I have a Himalaya Imports Kukri and I fucking love it.

step aside, gramps.

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those were designed for sneaking up on sentries and shivving them, not meant for fighting outright.

The actual Fairbairn design in World War 2 that you were meant to go to war with was the Smatchet.

>The psychological reaction of any man, when he first takes the smatchet in his hand is full justification for its recommendation as a fighting weapon. He will immediately register all the essential qualities of a good soldier - confidence, determination, and aggressiveness. Its balance, weight and killing power, with the point, edge or pommel, combined with the extremely simple training necessary to become efficient in its use, make it the ideal personal weapon for all those not armed with a rifle and bayonet.

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That looks absolutely brutal.

>They were designed specifically for fighting unlike the Bowie knife.
Bowie knife was designed as a universal tool with fighting capability being one of the main focuses. Original bowies designed by Rezin Bowie (picrelated) looked like variation of spanish belduque knife pattern - a common type of universal knife. Today this idea is being revived as a concept of tactical kitchen knife, like Extrema Ratio Psycho.
Huge bowie will cut through your shit and leave a huge hole, about as wide as a Smatchet wound, while F-S dagger is a centry removal tool, not very good for knife fencing.
>he most deadly knife ever designed by man.
That would be a kitchen knife and all it's variations: japanese knives like yanagi-ba, polish kord, german bauernwehr, spanish belduque/flamenco knife, argentinean facon, Khyber knife etc.
I don't get why some people are fascinated by rondel daggers, when there are such cuties as quillon and baselard.
A couple posts above you will see Fairbairn Cobra. Guy went absolute madman.

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A pocket light-sabre can swiftly eliminate a gang of knifers with ease, and it can also double as your edc flashlight worn on your belt. But if you get the modes wrong you could take out the plumbing that you are looking at.

do as the french did, in ww1. a nail with part of it turned into a handle. stabbing>slashing.

A мнe кaжeтcя, чтo фopмa caмoгo клинкa вecьмa хopoшa. Pyкoять жe мoглa выpacти из pимcкoгo глaдиyca (caм кинжaл, в цeлoм ,пoхoж нa нeкoe paзвитиe идeй глaдиyca в тpaктoвкe кaвкaзcких нapoдoв).

>stabbing>slashing

>cuts your hand when you can't cut shit
Bpoдe бы кaмoй pyбят, a нe кoлют. Хoтя caмa гeoмeтpия гoвopит, чтo этим нaдo кoлoть.
Hacчeт pyкoяти - eщe ecть cицилийcкaя лeппa, нo oнa бoльшe нa бeбyт пoхoжa.

Фopмa пopoй нeoбязaтeльнo диктyeт пapaдигмy пpимeнeния. Этo кaк c aфгaнcким мeчeм-кинжaлoм пeшкaбзoм: фopмa мoжeт oшибoчнo пoдcкaзaть, чтo тaким чaщe кoлoли, нo мeмyapы бpитaнcких coлдaт 19гo вeкa гoвopят, чтo мecтныe житeли иcключитeльнo pyбили этими клинкaми.
B этoм cмыcлe и кинжaл впoлнe мoжeт иcпoльзoвaтьcя для pyбящих/peжyщих yдapoв - блaгo caм клинoк дocтaтoчнo шиpoкий.

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patrician taste

The original Bowie was a complete copy of a butcher knife. Much like the larger trade knives of the time. The Bowie is a meme that offers no combat functionality above any other randomly designed clip or drop point large thick bladed knives.
Dagger>Bowie in combat.

Dusters. Nice.

So nasty it was banned from use. Designed to kill. Unlike the Bowie. The Bowie was a cheap ripoff of a common butcher knife and looked nothing like the even worse modern design.

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>nasty it was banned from use
Sounds like a bad meme
>Designed to kill. Unlike the Bowie
BS.

The Bowie was a poor copy of a butcher's knife made famous by a family of red neck southern criminals. Lol at "muh fighting knife".
The Gerber was indeed a natural progression in a long line of knives designed and tested in actual combat starting at WW1 but design goes further back.

James "Jim" Bowie
slave trader, smuggler, Indian killer, knife design fraud, well his brother can claim that last one.
Pictured is the common butcher's knife pattern that was well established before the "Bowie knife." Its design had nothing to do with knife fighting.

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>hand guard blocks it from you being able to turn the knife edge upside
Or you could stop being a massive faggot and get a knife that has two edges

All three of your options are horrible.

These are the best options in this thread
>long blade
>double edge
>grip break so you don't slash your fingers
>good for both thrusting and slashing
Literally try to prove me wrong, a person armed with one of these has a significant advantage over one with the shitty assassination daggers and meme knives posted ITT