Why can't Russians make a fucking targeting pod?

It was part of the plan for the F-35 in the very beginning. It was always intended to be widely exported, so the USAF set up a program to let other countries buy in early, with manufacturing rights serving as an incentive to discourage them from backing out. The US could theoretically manufacture all the F-35s at home, but outsourced production of some parts to foreign partners for political and financial reasons.

>know how to make optronic systems for helicopters

No, they actually don't. Not anymore. The optronics for Ka-52 is based on French parts, optronics for they UAVs are either from Israel or Turkey. They GEOS line of thermal cam/laser rf/targed designator designed and produced after 2010 are fucking unreliable, heavy and have abysmal performance

Everything from the engines to the missile warning system on the F-22 was domestically produced. U.S. can still produce its own planes, with the F-35 its political, Stay mad, Vatnik.

dumbass, before the Ukraine war and sanctions, Russians issued an RFQ for the targeting pod (they didn't buy too many since it was for one particular plane) and French offered the lowest price. So they picked it.
And now a russian company has built their own for Su-57... the 101KS-N.

So they can build one. Your whole thread is fucking stupid.

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>that pic
every fucking time

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F-22 doesn't even have a targeting pod. Do you even know what purpose it serves?

When did I ever mention the F-22 having a targeting pod? I was responding to his point about the U.S. not being able to 100% domestically produce a fighter aircraft.

GOES line*

>Needing a pod on a new design in 2019

Their tech industry was behind even before the collapse. Not investing heavily into microprocessor production really fucked them over.

user, you're dealing with a seething vatnik. Expecting anything to make sense is unwise.

Holy fuck, the su57 has to use a targeting pod? What a piece of shit. No wonder no one wants the thing.

isnt India interested in it?

is this the laugh at russia thread?

here is a picture showing how you can see their aircraft carrier from the ISS with the naked eye

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They decided to drop out of the program a few years ago.

no. they only were interested in it to spite the US for not letting them set up a production factory in india, but then once the US agreed with the F-16 they told russia to take the SU to the Loo

kind of hard to do that when the microprocessor boom was in the US and they didnt want to share with anyone they didnt like

The Su-57 is a standoff strike craft. It launches its payload from a very long range. It does not have to get near enough to warrant using an internal targeting equipment. If it needs to do so then it uses a targeting pod, or just send in the Bears.

Just fucking reverse-engineer it lmfao

That’s hard to do when you don’t have a very advanced compsci field in industry and academia.

Targeting pods are an external element that hurts stealth. This is why the F-22 and F-35 have all of their sensors built internally. The Su-57 requiring the use of one out of the factory is a bit baffling since it’s also advertised as a stealth fighter.

The only reason the USAF widely uses targeting pods is because the majority of their planes were built before the sensors were developed. As result, existing airframes don’t have the internal space to accommodate them.

they'll just break it because russians are ogres

why redesign a plane thats never going to come out?

it says on the image that its from a Landsat tho...

/thread

>Now that Russia isn't quite so poorly off, they could make a large shift to high-tech manufacturing, but they lack the very expensive and specialized industrial base for top end chip manufacturing.

There is also the fact that the West still pays better for talent and there is still brain drain.

why cant americans build a prop airplane why do they have to buy one from brazil?

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Still strong and dangerous.

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I wonder why some countries don't just stop with foreign aide bullshit and dump money into advancing their domestic industries
Like bruh what the fuck do we even do as a species lmao

Most countries will never have the population, money, and resources to develop and produce all of the modern products used in the western world.

I also mean that statement in regard to western countries
It's like self-inflicted wounding when we could technologically take off

not so strong with a hole in the top and a sunk dry dock

Most western countries are in an identical position. It’s not just about having an educated populace. Many major industrial operations require large amounts of cheap land and easy access to various natural resources to be profitable.

kek

>Still strong and dangerous.
You mean "still decayed and non-operational."

Not to mention last time they tried flight ops from it they lost enough planes to transfer its planes back to land.

This is retard shit bro. External pods reduce stealth and slow down the aircraft.

5th gen jets have that shit built in. Further proves the su57 isnt 5th gen

They removed the missiles years ago. It's trash.

kek

>Admiral Kuznetsov is best designed Air Craft carrier of all time
>Yankee dogs fear superior ramp
>Nothing will ever stop glorious Kuznetso- AHHHH BLYAAAT

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>Nothing will ever stop glorious Kuznetso- COUGHCOUGHCOUGH

ftfy

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m8 why are you bullying Russians? It is like picking on a crippled retard at this point.

What country are you from anyway?

Thank you for this image

because they are sub-humans

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Things Russia is good at:
>mechanical engineering
>aeronautical engineering
>aerospace engineering

Things Russia is bad at:
>electrical engineering
>computer science

Honestly the best systems possible would be Russian designs full of US electronics.

Russia is good at those things, but that doesn't mean they're as good as the USA or other western countries.

Well there's only so much shit you can take from that manlet at the gym going on about how he can fight anyone because his size is "actually an advantage", even if you know he isn't all quite there mentally.

Seeing the US is still using a Russian rocket enginer while they develope something that competes I think it's safe to say Russia is still ahead at least in that field.

bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-08-16/putin-tells-russian-scientists-to-steer-clear-of-foreigners

>The rules, which are signed by Science and Higher Education Minister Mikhail Kotyukov, require scientists to give five days' advance notice to ministry officials anytime they plan on meeting a foreign colleague. After such meetings, scientists are also required to submit a report and a list of participants in the meetings.

Don't worry. With new rules like these they'll catch up in no time.

>I wonder why some countries don't just stop with foreign aide bullshit and dump money into advancing their domestic industries
>Like bruh what the fuck do we even do as a species lmao
Majority of politicians are too old and dumb to understand. They don't realize that being able to produce advanced semiconductors is a required technology for the military these days. It's entirely possible for relatively small countries to make their own, 10 or 20 billion for advanced fabs isn't that difficult for most nations to come up with. I think even Israel makes it's own IR image sensors for their latest python versions. Russia and China just chose not to invest in these things. They're somewhat aware now but have to catch up on stuff they should have done 20 years ago.

>Spain builds a new Submarine
>It can't resurface
>Call Black Man Good and ask for the help of American Experts
>"Just make it longer bro"
>Now it can't dock because it's too long to fit
USA USA USA USA

>build carrier
>lose at least 3 aircraft due to arresting gear
>runs like shit and produces more smoke than a burning siberian forest
>sink drydock and crash crane into the deck
>gooks change design because they think it sucks
I mean makin fun of western fuckups on a thread about the Kuznetsov isn't the brightest move.

But they arent good at aerospace engineering. They cant even design a stealth jet that doesnt require a targeting pod. What are you talking about?

The us only uses soviet era rockets. Because they are dirt cheap.

Russians today are terrible engineers. They dont make anything people buy. Even lada is now owned and designed by the french.

>Honestly the best systems possible would be Russian designs full of US electronics.
I have always wanted to see one of the newer flankers with western engines and avionics. As far as I can tell it would drastically outperform the other 4th gen stuff countries still buy. The only thing that could compete is the new F15s, even then with the sukhois vectoring and more space for avionics might give it an edge.

Vectoring is a meme. Its literally worthless.

Vecause everyone likes to bully the bully that bullies the bully.
Pretty much whole Jow Forums is doing that to every possible armed forces.

By that logic F-35 is better than YF-23 because people bought the F-35.

>mechanical Engineering
Germans
>Aeronautical
French & Anglos
>Electrical and Computer
Yanks

russians are useless beyond their vast wealth of institutional knowhow of outdated ICBM and space vehicle design.

Yep. And it is. Get over it.

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>Because they are dirt cheap
You have no idea what you are talking about, the only engine that comes close to the modenized RD-180 is the SpaceX Raptor which still hasn't fired for more than a few seconds.
I'm a huge rocket nerd and can tell you the west didn't think closed cycle rocket engines were possible until after the collapse of the USSR when they found out Russia had been using them for 20 years.

>The us only uses soviet era rockets. Because they are dirt cheap.

Soyuz/R7 is the only system that is currenty capable to carry humans into space.

Before:
>Russia is on its knee's! Please help we are starving here in Russia.
>Well, lets use russian rockets, we could do our own stuff but we kinda should help Russia and its a nice synergy effect
After:
>XAXA! RUSSIA STRONG! YOU WOULD BE NOTHING WITHOUT GLORIOUS RUSSIAN ROCKETS
>...why again did we help Russia?

Watch this and get a little education. The Russians sent specs to the US hoping to sell some engines because there were broke, the US though there was a translation error on the specs because the claimed efficency wasn't possible.
Turns out the Russians had done the impossible.

youtu.be/TMbl_ofF3AM

>subhumans
come on now. we all know who the subhumans are.

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>watch this history channel hyperbole, totaly proves me right
You are missing the point entirely, if the US wanted they would have developed it in their time. If it werent for attempts to find anything useful to keep Russia afloat this would never had been used.

You are nothing but a bunch of arrogant pricks, always has been and always will be that way. That is why no one likes you but other tyrant and failed states that cant chose sympathy.

Developed in the 1960s. It's cheap and effective.

Funny things is the Russian are following fucking Malaysian example that successfully integrated Russian-Western technology into their SU-30MKM. Malaysian SU-30MKM are the only Sukhoi SU-30 series that capable of using Sidewinder, Paveway and JDAM.

"Russia will license-produce the Thales Damocles reconnaissance and target designation pod for its air force strike aircraft, following successful tests of the system with Malaysia's Sukhoi Su-30MKM multirole fighter."

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Bro. You dumb as fuck. We use the rd180 because its dirt cheap.

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No one likes Australia? Just because I know enough about rocketry to respect Russia doesn't mean I'm Russian.
I like a lot of US stuff too but Russia currently produces the best first stage engine.

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Doesnt matter what you are, if you act like one of their more retarded kinds, you will be seen as one of them.
>but Russia currently produces the best first stage engine.
Just because no one else has the need at the moment to make their own when their is the cheap hooker right around the corner. Dont act like there is any other reason.

It took like 4 years for the west to develop a replacement for the RD-180 when they needed to develop a replacement. It isn't like the RD-180 is some miracle of engineering, there just wasn't a need to develop a competitor because it was already dirt cheap.

Thanks to Russia's idiot movies in Ukraine, their entire space program is going to not exist in about 5 years. The RD-180 won't have a market in 2 years, and their soyuz program has no functional replacement and will cost more than the commercial options.

Look up staged combustion cycles if you want to learn about a topic you enjoy claiming to know about.
If the Raptor is successful the US will take the title for best first stage engine, combined with the RL-10 you will have both first stage and vacuum efficiency titles.

>remember kids, there is always that one random guy on Jow Forums that is defending russian equipment like a russian, he will claim to be from another nation from time to time, but there is always one and they all sound awefull similar.
Must be one of those strange things happening on anonymous image boards where you can claim to be everyone or not that one person.

>everyone that disagrees with me is a Russian bot
Shit I was only gone from Jow Forums for 4 years, when did it become CNN?

>Russian bot
>CNN
user, i....

Okay, at this point it just becomes trolling.

>they didn't just build the targeting pod into it like the F-35

There's no excuse for having an external pod on any airframe designed after 2000

Yeah, Slavs.

>extreme range (16km)
Laughs in SDB.

why are most of the worlds semiconductor foundries located in china and taiwan? if you ever went to war with china you would be fucked

They aren't. Most of the world's silicon is still made in the states.

I'm trying to figure out who the hell hates slavs enough to call them subhuman. Even germans, their sworn blood enemies for centuries, only called slavs subhuman as a way to get their land. There can't be any other reason I can think of...

Are you looking to get real estate in Russia?

>100lb bomb that takes the volume of a 200lb bomb
Why don't you just use a cruise missile if you're that much of a pussy

Australia needs more land, cause fuck off we're full.

globalfoundries is owned by arabs and they have like a handful of factories in the us. this lets them produce most of the worlds silicon?

statista.com/statistics/268108/world-silicon-production-by-country/
The only thing US makes most of is faggots, trannies and kikes.

You cant even run a silicon mine or a processing plant in USA because the particles are a "cancer risk" and they can't be within 50 miles of an inhabited area.

Nope

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