The Maus was a certified catastrophe and that's small compared to your level of autism.
Matthew Martin
>Would get BTFO by anything. FTFY
Joshua Nelson
It would br defeated by literally any terrain
Benjamin Ortiz
>guise I have a great idea, let's just take every bad thing about every type of weapon and combine them all into one giant money/resource pit
Elijah Powell
Ships are the size they are because in 99% of situations you can't build a forward base in the ocean so you have to bring everything with you. There aren't any comparable environments on land, or at least not in areas worth fighting over.
Adrian Nelson
Let's ignore all the autism for one second andentertain this thought... >Ships flex, google torsion box. Water is usually a rather flat surface to go fast in and... "soft enough to bend around the ship" in form of waves. Land is restrictive and ops picrelated would get stuck all the time. >Weight, guess how fast this is and how much energy it would take to movie it even on flat ground >Destroyer: To me that would make the most sense since Destroyers are slender and small. You could build something like the Heglund but longer where it's basically a land train (and no you couldn't get that giant railway gun thing in there), but that would be a maneuvering nightmare as well. Btw destroyers didn't sport tipple 16 or so inch artillery, but rather 5 inch single mounts, which would be more appropriate for such a thing. It goes without saying that building 10 tanks/artillery pieces instead of one landship would be in every way imaginable better and more flexible.
Because the benefit of putting a ship in water is that its a medium that is easier to move through with less friction, has automatic damping of bumbs, and requires only a tiny moving part to move a huge bulk.
Putting it on land and layering tracks is as dumb as ideas of airborne aircraft carriers. You just fail to get the basic physics.
Matthew Baker
this. until there's some kind of not only advancement, but incredibly major paradigm shift in propulsion technology, the sea is just about the only place vehicles with masses of ships can be viable in any military capacity.
Cameron Murphy
Because -anything other than extremely flat land with no obstacles would wreck its shit -it would be so heavy that it would sink into most ground -it would cost far too much fuel to move it -planes are a thing and would be able to easily spot and bomb it
You know how the Nazis never built Panzer VIII Maus, imagine all those problems but 10 fold.
Connor Gutierrez
Hey, this might actually amount to something.
>armored trains with caterpillar tracks instead of wheels
Angel Perez
Still needs solid ground and metal tracks fuck up roads.
Luke Martin
>Oh no a mountain. Looks like we’re stuck forever
Daniel Martinez
Its Called a tank, dipshit
Chase Morgan
Now imagine all those armored train cars can move independently of each other, that would be even more effective!
Gavin Jackson
You could do the same thing by getting a bunch of tanks and making them drive in a convoy, except the tanks can split up when they have to and the rest of the convoy can still move if the lead tank is destroyed.
James Sanders
Here is the largest self-powered land vehicle in the word. It weighs 2,700 tons and can carry 9,000 tons. It moves at 1 MPH.
An Arleigh Burke, by contrast, weighs about 10,000 tons and moves at 34 MPH.
And just so everyone knows, THIS is the actual crawler itself. The box on top (the thing the shuttle is sitting on there) is actually a separate piece.
These are all exactly correct. I'm more suggesting that it would work as a sort of fictitious interwar design. It satisfies a creator's desire to make something cool and unique without being as fucking stupid as "just take a fucking boat and put it on tracks."
Jackson Kelly
I guess in that sense it might work. Maybe the generals didn't think it through entirely and thought they could save money by maintaining fewer engines and training fewer drivers.
>guaranteed slow speed + fuckhueg size + massive fuel consumption and maintenance requirements = predictable path, very limited terrain accessibility, wet ground would bog it down every time due to weight, easy target due to these factors.
Jeremiah Ramirez
It might make sense if you had to fight on mars. The whole place is a desert and the atmosphere is too thin to support aircraft so big trucks would be the only option for long distance transport.
Austin Phillips
Or you could just get one of those large trucks.
BelAZ 75710: capacity 496t.
Add some armor.
And mount the 5"/54 caliber Mark 45 gun system into it. Mass: 21t.
This has more than enough spare capacity for a lot of ammo, fuel and armor.
I want this to happen just so i can watch it get destroyed by 4 Su-22s with bombs
Gavin Flores
The enemy would just build missiles large enough to blow it up and once launched in numbers, there is NOTHING that can prevent them from hitting and taking it out.
Big, slow targets just can't take the punishment that modern missile technology can give!
Even if a country had the resources to piss away pic related would be the most practical/impractical abomination ever built. And this board has already been over why Mechs/bipedal/spider armor is a bad idea.
Keeping those trucks running is a logistical nightmare and a half. As an example, the tires themselves have to be transported by 18 wheeler and are oversized load items in the USA and convoi exceptionnel in the EU.
To be fair, doesn't it move so slowly because any faster risks tipping the rocket/shuttle over?
Levi Ortiz
Tipping isn't a problem since the road it travels down is one of the flatest man-made surfaces on earth. Vibration, however, is a major problem. Checking all those fittings, pipes, valves, nozzles, and other fiddly bits is bad enough without subjecting them to an extra hour or so of rattling around.
Jayden Parker
>guns don't even have the traversal range of the OP pic
It's even worse, desu.
Luis Martinez
Lack of gigantic sand seas on Earth If we had them, sandships would be a thing
Colton Phillips
>Why aren't land ships a real thing?? >Just imagine it spewing fire just like a destroyer. Would BTFO anything. What happens when equal amount of dispersed artillery target it?
There's this little thing called the square cube law and it works really hard against very large landbound things
Jordan Martin
Ships themselves are a phenomenon created by the conditions and nature of large stretches of water. On land, you have no REASON to have a ship, and something that large becomes a liability. It's why flying carriers never caught on, they just aren't needed. It's way easier to move troops and materials with small vehicles and by foot.
Evan Rodriguez
On this subject: How big is too big for a warship? Where is the practicality threshold crossed?
Charles Morris
look up 'maximum battleship' 350m is the upper limit on length iirc
Liam Parker
>t. Wehraboo
Your Orwelllian Landship fails to even materialize due to one small fallacy that began in 1903
Have fun being a thickass Ordinance magnet for all OPFOR aviation
Luke Moore
why does that thing have anchors and bollards?
Aaron Taylor
>Anchors on the front of a giant tank That picture is retarded
Caleb Brown
>That picture is retarded thanks for pointing it out, nobody realized that yet.
Carter Kelly
Why is H.G. Wells drunkposting on Jow Forums again?
I'd rather see fortress-cities make a modern comeback, but walling off sections of city nowadays would absolutely create clogged up major arteries and wreck the economy. Having a long strip of easily identifiable batteries for both land and air use is also a really stupid idea if you think about it from a bomber's perspective.
But it would look cool.
Brandon Brown
the real redpill is that Moscow is a modern fortified city, with layers of integrated (if antiquated) air defense and missile defense
but soviet shit is old and unreliable
Chase Reyes
>tfw still no Battletrucks in the modern wasteland
They were going to call tanks 'landships' initially, but they thought that would make it too obvious to the enemy what they were prior to deployment, so they went with 'tanks' because they thought the first ones resembled large metal water tanks or something.
Damn now I want to read that series again for the nostalgia.
Jayden Scott
Fucking hell.
Ayden Sanchez
Is this before or after the Finno-Korean Hyperwar?
Cooper Ross
>Is this before or after the Finno-Korean Hyperwar? Depends on which layer of simulated universes you currently reside..
Camden Brown
This’d make a pretty gud anime though. Giant land cruisers originally built to counter a massive threat to human life, now turned into refuge cities where the only true civilizations on earth dwell anymore. Others dwelling outside land cruisers are constantly on the run from said threat, and are barbarian/bandit-tier.
Isn't the Elephant just an oversized version of the IRL Trojan?
Easton Perry
the bv206 does not need solid ground nor do its rubber tracks fuck up roads
Jonathan Johnson
otomatic otomatic otomatic otomatic
Grayson Price
>wargame flashbacks intensify
Asher Sullivan
>Spend one day fixing tracks. You mean a whole engineering division spends months on fixing the track?
Liam Wood
Land ships ARE a thing. They are called TANKS you fuckwit.
Bentley Scott
To be fair, the crawler is old and is slow by design, it does not have to move in a rush and is carrying what is basically an irreplaceable piece of equipment balanced on its ass.