I'm heading to Alaska in a few weeks for a fishing trip...

I'm heading to Alaska in a few weeks for a fishing trip. I was urged to carry some sort of bear/wildlife defense handgun due to the places we're going. Bears are a concern Everyone else is carrying a .460 or .44mag. I picked up a Glock 20 because I'll actually use it outside of this trip. What sort of holster should I get? Chest rig? Hip? Drop holster? I've only carried a Glock 19 on my hip and a Smith shield in my boot. I was leaning towards a chest rig so it wouldn't weigh my belt down during the hikes to the fishing spots. Anyone have advice in these situations?

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moon.com/travel/outdoors/admiralty-island-bear-viewing/
ammoland.com/2018/02/defense-against-bears-with-pistols-97-success-rate-37-incidents-by-caliber/
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chest rigs are shit. get a safariland als, put it on a drop leg low ride qls

never been to Alaska but if you're only running 10mm vs .44mag or similar, I hope they're hot bigboi loads. I personally like hip holsters or even a shoulder holster for any of my full sized guns. I carry an M92FS with extended mag and match compensator in an under arm shoulder holster for instance with my mags under the other arm.

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Buffalo bore 220grn hard cast lead 10mm loads are going to be what you want to pick up user

>buying a chest rig to carry pistols
At least you’ll be able to drown yourself in the trip

I'll check it out, I've always thought of drop holsters as mall ninja tier but I've never been to a place that has bears as a significant risk.
Done, I'll order some of those.

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>hikes
I've never seen someone hike with anything but a chest rig when I've researched hiking with guns.
Have you asked other dudes how they'll be carrying theirs?

My friend with the Smith 460 is on a chest rig, not sure what the .44mag guys are going with. That's why I was thinking chest rig but wanted some more ideas.

user if you think 10mm is gonna save you from one of these thickbois you're a dingus jabroni.

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Lol
44 is to week u need a deagle in .50ae

do you really want to shoot at a bear with a glock? get a .45-70 with some extreme penetrators if you really want to be safe

Don't carry a meme gun like the Glock 20. 10mm is NOT adequate for a charging pissed of Grizzly bear.

Most of the guides I know carry a Glock 20. Sure there are some that carry something bigger, but they're usually the guys that don't actually go more than a mile off the road before they start wheezing.

A real marksman would pack a .22LR, the deadliest round. One shot through the eye of a charging pissed off bear and the bullet would bounce around inside it's skull, turning its brain to mush.

He already bought the fuckin thing. Carry spray and a glock and you'd have to severely fuck up.
How many bear attacks happen in the country annually?
Here I'll help
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_bear_attacks_in_North_America#2010s
They're pretty rare and almost always happen on people completely unprepared. Wild animals typically fuck off when you start magdumping into them, whether you hit or not.

user doesn't need to get big iron just for one trip.

.45-70? Lol Boomer round.

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220 grain hardcast will be your best bet

Baste Boomer

You can fish with a Glock 20.

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Get a 10 dollar glock holster off of amazon and put in in your belt, t. Carrie's a glock 40 innawoods.

There is a Glock 20 in this. If you're going to kill bears do so with extreme prejudice.

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are these SBRs or is there some kind of loophole they exploit? been wondering.

thetruthaboutguns.com/alaskan-hiker-stops-charging-brown-bear-at-6-feet-with-10mm-handgun/

he did shoot himself in the foot during the whole thing, though.

I'm not really sure what it is. I didn't have to fill out any SBR forms or anything. Plus I'm in Alaska so it's not like I give a fuck anyways.

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based fucking Alaska. Fuck the glow niggers

>he did shoot himself in the foot during the whole thing, though.
I wonder if it was a situation like this. You have to pretend Doug is a bear even though he's filipino.

Forgot the webm

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what is that called? Does any glock fit? As in I can get a Glock 17 for it?

>Anyone have advice in these situations?
This is my Glock 20 in a Cross Breed holster.

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It's called an MCK and they make them for just about every Glock now.

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No chest rigs. The only holster worth using above the waste is a shoulder holster and only when trying to conceal really big guns. For open carry around people you know, there is no better setup than a drop holster, since it is absolutely the very fastest draw from a neutral position. The chest holster is claimed to be the best for when a bear is already on you, but if you've gotten to that point, you've already made a terrible mistake.

So looking at it online, it can be made with a non-NFA stabilizer, and an NFA straight up folding stock. I'm assuming the latter requires a tax stamp and registering it as an SBR?

Yeah. I'm thinking on ordering the stock but then it is SBR.

ugh such a pain in the fucking ass. I just want a shorty boi chambered in 9mm. I'm about to just get a Hi-point ffs.

>never been to Alaska but if you're only running 10mm vs .44mag or similar, I hope they're hot bigboi loads
I'm from there. You don't need hot 10mm just, standard (not factory underloaded
) 10mm cartridges. If the performance numbers match the 10mm specs on the wiki page, that's sufficient. Plenty of laskans carry 10mm in the bush now. Only 2 places where you might be underpowered: Kodiak or on the north slop with the polar bears.
I wouldn't worry about bears though, stay far away from the moose. They're more likely to kill you, many forests are filthy with them and they can be within 7m from you in the thick spruce forests and you won't see them. I wouldn't worry about that though since many forests are currently on fire .

I'm far from an expert but I've yet to find any hiker who carries a gun below their waist and user said he is going to be hiking a bit to get to the fishing spot.

>Kodiak or on the north slop with the polar bears.
Chichagof Island has sort of the same thing Kodak has, some say polar bears mated with Brown bears. They are bigger than the run of the mill southeast brown bear.

sorry youve never lived in a state with brown bears or real danger outside of your girlfriends side piece. this is the worst post and gross misuse of the word "boomer"
also youre gay

Haven't heard that but I haven't been anywhere close to there. But if we're doing freakish islands: my friend from baranof says admiralty and part of kupreanof are ridiculously dense with brown bear. I guess they're average size, but the density of brown bear is probably higher than anywhere else in the state. Except the inlets when the salmon run but that's temporary.

Buffalo Bore is overpriced as fuck. Underwood 220gr is actually as powerful as advertised and half as much per round.

This. Buffalo Bore is novelty ammo.

>admiralty and part of kupreanof are ridiculously dense with brown bear. I guess they're average size, but the density of brown bear is probably higher than anywhere else in the state.
yup

>"Admiralty Island lives up to its original name—Kootznoowoo, or “Fortress of the Bears” in Tlingit—with the highest concentration of brown bears in the world. The island holds an estimated 1,500 brown bears at a density of one bear per square mile."
moon.com/travel/outdoors/admiralty-island-bear-viewing/

>bear charges
>adrenaline kicks in
>untrained normie
>shoots beareyes
>w/ 22lr.
Yes. Very high chance of survival... I think 10mm is meme. Go with larger caliber. Chestrig / holster isn't that bad idea for carrying.

honestly this, transition from waders belt to pants belt.

I went up to Alaska once’s for work asked some of the native guys what they use for protection from bears and such. All said a shotgun with buckshot.

Fag

My alaskan buddies all prefer 12 gauges with brenneke slugs as bear medicine. When hunting they use big rifle rounds like .375.

For handguns, One swears by .460 SW, another by .454 casul. Several of them adore 10mm.

>tfw saving up for custom hunter in 460 for muh EDC
>tfw have to go to Alaska without it to get the money for it
Ah, the life of a poor with expensive tastes

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Dude. Just carry a g19, are you compensating for something?

Threadly reminder that bear spray is your one hundred percent best option for dealing with dangerous wildlife of literally any size in North America. Outcomes have been proven over and over again to be better with bear spray than with firearms. You might kill the animal with a gun, but there's a real good chance it injures you or returns the favor before kicking the bucket.

CARRY BEAR SPRAY. Firearms should be your second line option.

As an Alaskan I can tell you that you don't really need a holster as you can CC just about everywhere without a license. If you want a holster might try a shoulder holster, chestrig's are nice for flying/driving long distances, drop leg holster for the same reason. Personally I'd rather just CC, not as many looks from people (not that you get very many) and just stops retarded people from getting bad Ideas. Just keep your situational awareness up, all the animals you'll have to worry will be Bears and maybe moose if you don't pay attention, both of which make enough noise that you'll notice them quick enough that most holsters will be useless, might as well spend the money on an extra magazine and just reach in your pocket to retrieve your Glock.

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bring a toadline bully with you.

Would 30-30 do the trick?

Yep, "Bear Guns" are for the most part a myth, anything above 22lr is a good bear rifle, and considering %99 of the time a warning shot will scare a bear away even 22lr is a valid choice. And yes the first shot should be off the bow, (unless the fuckers three feet away) second shot and follow ups are the killshots, and if you're getting charged by a Grizzly or Black bear the head is gonna be the target. Anything that's semiautomatic and has a decent magazine capacity is the way to go. Again coming from an A/K/ user.

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Hmm... perhaps a 300 hamr instead then.

What a cuck

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I mean sure, Bears aren't the invincible killing machines people generally make them out to be, just about anything above a 22. is a good choice.

I hear .357 mag will do the trick if you shoot its foot.

Alaskan here. What area are you fishing OP? I carry a .44 in a shoulder holster but really the best option is whatever you're most comfortable with so that you actually operate it well enough is a panic.
Bear spray is also a totally viable choice. Ive used it twice. It completely shuts down its sense of smell and blinds it. Then all you have to do is get the fuck away. It also requires zero fine motor control. Just swipe the tab off and thumb the button.
Make lots of noise too cus most attacks happen when you surprise a bear.

Get a Deagle brand Deagle, Wildey Survivor, or a 460XVR.

Why in hell do you believe that a couple of 10mm holes will not mortally wound a bear?

357 mag is fine, they make rounds specifically for bears in that caliber. It still drops a fuckton of energy into anything it hits.

Don't carry a giant gun you can't aim accurately.

You are better off with a little 9mm you can reliably hit than a .44, .50 something or other where the recoil and weight is causing you to miss.

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Bear spray. Dont be the asshole OCing unless you're going backcountry

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They will, but the bear will still have time to eviscerate you before its brain realizes it's dead.

Then the wind blows back at you.

Learn to use .44 then, practice and train until you're confident. Lift weights if you're a twink. You'll never get in a shootout with a bear and think "fuck I shoulda carried a smaller round." You'll always want the biggest available.

You do you man, but statistics on bear attacks dont lie. Moose are a far bigger and more likely threat anyway, and I bet op is too dumb to run behind a tree and will probably try to quickdraw mcgraw a bull moose and get stomped into a pile of goo for his trouble

I can fire .44 mag but the sting from the trigger sucks.

I'd rather just use a .357.

Just like when you pee

Spotted the guy who gets his gun knowledge from vidya.

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>not exclusively playing Urination Simulator

9mm is sufficient for bear defense, even grizzlies.
ammoland.com/2018/02/defense-against-bears-with-pistols-97-success-rate-37-incidents-by-caliber/
The most important thing is that you hit the bear.

Looks like a brace to me.

Bears don't care about recoil, you either go ham and dump 44 mag or use a shotty. If you're in Alaskan bear country you shouldn't even carry a 9mm in the city. Most people in cities like Anchorage wear 4+ layers 7 months of the year anyway.

OP is going on a, so far, one-off trip innawoods to fucking fish.
You anons sperging about how he needs to get a big iron and git gud with it before going fishing in Alaska are retarded.

How many bear attacks can you think of where the person shot a bear with anything and the bear killed the dude for his trouble? Bears don't go out of their way to attack folks, normally, and he's not going to be alone. Alaskans carry 10mm too and seem to do alright so I don't get the big deal.

Out near Cordova. I'll definitely get bear spray while I'm up there.

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Should have just brought the g19 with Nato 124 grain ball. It is plenty for any bear

9mm has been used successfully against grizzlies just as much as 10mm

This
/thread. Op wasted his money

Hey OP if you're still here I'm actually living here in Alaska. I usually have a can of bear spray as line of defense one and I carry a glock 40mos as absolute last resort. If you have a guide they'll typically be on top of the bear issues but just make noise. Talk at a normal volume or a bit louder or just shout hey bear every few minutes. The bears aren't after you and typically they'll steer well off if they hear you. Moose is what you want to worry about but even then your guide will have more info.

>everyone I'm with has 44 mag so I need something bigger than 9mm too
now you understand that this is mostly overprepred paranoid LARPing

You know something I've noticed? The kind of guy that spends a great deal of money on some giant hand cannon, a fancy holster and a bunch of ammunition for that tiny almost infinitesimal chance they're attacked by a bear tends to be the same kind of guy that never wears his seat belt.

I'm still here thanks for the info.
That's very much against the law and retarded though, it's like not having smoke detectors in your house.

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9mm
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How can one state be so based?

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15 rounds of 10mm is WAY better than 6 rounds of .460 or .44

Brb guys, tryna telewarp from based AZ to big dick energy AK

Sick reference bro

>asked some of the native guys
You're a retard for listening to a snow nigger

Uh, user, we call them snowbacks.

This. Bunch of fucking spergs.

The purpose of a chest rig is for the firearm to be accessible when you're in a defensive position with your arms up around your head and face. For as big as bears are, they can be deceptively stealthy assholes and you may not know they're there until they pop out of a tree line right behind you.

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This is the sort of info I was looking for. Thanks user.

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You're welcome. Remember your best defense against bears is being loud as fuck and obnoxious, as a general rule they really don't like people. Keep your head on a swivel and you'll be fine. If bear wants your fish, give it to him. You can always catch another.

Chest rig, you don't want anything on your leg/belt, other then a knife

>Remember your best defense against bears is being loud as fuck and obnoxious

Niggers use the same tactics when dealing with most other races.

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