.357 SIG

Recoil is not proportional to energy, but rather to bullet momentum AKA power factor. Actually, the momentum of escaping gasses also contributes to recoil, but in pistols this is usually small enough to ignore.
For two projectiles with the same energy, the lighter, faster one will have less momentum.
For two projectiles with the same momentum, the lighter, faster one will have more energy.

Some .357 SIG power factors:
65gr @ 2100 fps = 136
125gr @ 1450 fps = 181
147gr @ 1250 fps = 184
You can see those power factors are in the same range as .45 ACP, so whatever differences there are in felt recoil will have more to do with the gun than the cartridge.
.357 SIG is usually in a small-frame gun, with shorter stroke and thus sharper felt recoil than a large-frame (.45/10mm) gun, but the difference is hard to quantify. And while they're not common, you can get large frame guns (particularly 1911s) in .357 SIG, which would allow a more apples-to-apples comparison of the cartridges.

357 Sig is shedding its energy at distance a lot more than other calibers. Go heavier not faster for a better handgun round.

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You could go with 9mm dillon

9x25 Dillon is best

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>shoot .38 for "years"
>if onl there were something like this but more powerful
>what if there was a gun that could shoot both rounds
>.357 sig?
Get a magnum, bruv.

Why not go with .38/.45 Clerke and load it to /SMC/Super loadings?

So 45 super necked down to 9mm?

Yes.

You want a caliber because it’s obscure? Back to plebbit for you

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>Go heavier not faster for a better handgun round.
That all depends which you're (more) concerned about, missing or not hitting hard enough.
Faster means flatter trajectory, so you can make hits.
Heavier means more retained velocity, so it hits harder and/or has enough velocity to expand.
The correct answer is "both faster and heavier", of course, so you can make hits that count, but that's not practical beyond a certain point.

Taking the light&fast approach to extremes can certainly have real problems -- by 150 yards, the 65gr .357 SIG is down to 1100 fps, and thus roughly .32 ACP energy.

But sticking to normal weights, compare 125gr .357 SIG's 1100fps at 100 yards vs .380 (or even 9mm out of a short enough barrel) at 10 yards, and it's really not lacking in momentum/energy. As long as you use bullets that work at those velocities -- and there's plenty of .355 bullets that do -- it's just fine.

Or to look at it another way, comparing the energy of 125gr .357 SIG and 230gr .45 ACP, .357 SIG has 40% more energy at the muzzle, the same energy (within 1%) at 100 yards, and only 9% less at 150.

see
shooterscalculator.com/ballistic-trajectory-chart.php?t=764ff185
shooterscalculator.com/ballistic-trajectory-chart.php?t=11343c74

All velocities according to Underwood's website.
BCs according to manufacturers for Speer Gold Dot (125gr and 230gr) and Lehigh Xtreme Defense (65gr).

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I see them on sale because people shoot plinking ammo more than defense ammo. Apparently among LEOs it is the go-to caliber for killing dogs.

In what real-world, practical scenario are you going to be making handgun shots past 100 yards?

You're not unless you're hunting with a wheelgun. Even then it's usually only 357mag that can reach out to 250-300 yards. That said past 100 is a feat, and the larger wheelgun cartridges are heavier and slower so are limited even moreso.

I built a gucci glock range toy in it. If i was building a dedicated woods gun, it would be in this caliber, firing buffalo bores stuff. Its more powerful than 9mm, but less brutal than 10mm. Allows for fast follow up shots and deep penetration. Besides a woulds gun or offensive duty weapon, which you should be using a rifle for it really has no use over 9mm, same as 40sw, or 10mm.

357sig is great in a fields compared to SBR ballistics but price.
Literally price is the only factor.

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In the Glock 31 Gen 4, the recoil is absolutely fine. Can't say anything about the single-spring Gen 3s, but my Gen 4 doesn't feel bad. I practice with S&B 140 grain like in your pic, too.

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Sig P229 and P226 police trade ins in 40 cal are real cheap now and a Sig 357 barrel is all that's needed to switch back and forth between calibers.