Chose Greece’s new planes

I wouldn't buy Chinese because I'm not a stupid third world country
I wouldn't buy the F-35 because the Uncle Sam's personal bitch like Poland
I wouldn't wait for the SCAF because it will be a big piece of shit like the Typhoon
I would just go buy a bunch of Rafale B and C, it'll do the work. Greeks know that Dassault is famous for making good planes

>I wouldn't buy Chinese because I'm not a stupid third world country
>greece
you sure, bud?

Ok, Pierre.

>Rafale
>F-15E
>I would just go buy a bunch of Rafale B and C, it'll do the work. Greeks know that Dassault is famous for making good planes

Why not a GRIPEN

May as well buy the Su50 and throw western electronics in it. Can’t be too bad. Have the U.S study then too so they don’t REEEEE at the purchase

Sven, just accept that no one wants to buy your slightly shittier F-16.

F-15SA/QA or similar for my money.

It would shit on the Turkroaches just as effectively as the F35, and Greece will never actually use the damn thing anyways.

what about the gripen? isnt the cost per flight hour stupidly low?
but the f-15 would be the best choice

A modern F-15 order is gonna cost way more than a similar number of F-35s.

Wait two years and buy the F-35. The longer you wait the more you save.

Nothing besides what's taking place (upgrading F-16s to block 72), and then extending the upgrade to the block 50s (making them block 50+ Advanced using the removed equipment off the upgraded aircraft). Same with the few block 30s that will remain in service.
Also, buy any Mirage 2000-5s that can be bought used (from France, UAE, Qatar) in order to replace the F-4 PI2000 and the original M2000s that were not upgraded. On all of the ones that remain, install Link16.
No need to buy a new plane until the roaches get close to getting one.

The F-35 is the only one of those that I would trust, which is saying a lot.

The Gripen E maybe

Gripen E
or
F/A-18 E/F

F/A-18 has a proven combat record and is a over built airframe for just land ops.

>F/A 18 E/F
throw in a few Gs as well.

I'm sure greece can cut a deal for those f-35s that never made it to turkey.

F20
Super hornet engine
Composite use to reduce empty weight by 20-30%
It would have thrust to weight ratio of over 3:1

This is what you need on the small islands, something that can take off on a short runway, point nose up, and ge to 20km altitude like a rocket.

>upgrade all f-16s to f-16v
>retire all mirage & phantoms
>purchase 4 squadrons of F-35
>hai gets a bunch of industrial offsets meant for tai

GO BIG OR GO HOME BOYS

If you get F35 you will be raped, its meant for large countries that can absorb the operational needs.

Just get F15.

wait why?

Anyone besides Turkey Greece is likely to scrap with?

F-35 is a cuck plane.

F-22 is how old? And how many have we sold to other countries? F-35 is brand new and we're to anyone with a big enough wallet?

Just save money and go with a Typhoon or Rafale. As much I'd like to see a totally broke country start showing off new multi-million dollar stealth VTOL fighters for the lulz, it just doesn't make any actual sense for them if they needed new planes so badly.

Sorry for grammar. Very stoned. Mean to say we're selling the 35 to anyone, yet we still keep the 22 to ourselves.

You’re an idiot

Macedonia?

The 22 is out of production and no one wants to foot the bill to put it back.

No, but Germany does.

>Just save money and go with a Typhoon
F-35A is cheaper than the Eurodorito.

This.

Can Japan even export that?

Yes, but nobody will buy Japanese aircraft because they're far more expensive than their competitors

>upgrade F-16s to the latest standards
>possibly buy and refurbish second hand airframes if needed
>wait until the 2030s
>cheap, possibly second hand F-35s available
>European maintenance centers well established
>ALIS hopefully sorted out
>operating costs tolerable

Given finances, I don'y advocate any new platforms induction today. 5-7 years from now you can look to induct the F-35, if finances permit.

But mainly my plan would be:

F-16V, and Mirage 2K upgrades for now. Both in service and cheaper for the HAF to maintain, equip, train with and overhaul as all the necessary infrastructure is already there.

Each new F-16 or M2K, or upgrade will cost substantially less than a single unit of a new platform, whether that's a Rafale, or F-35 etc. Not just due to price tag, but also aforementioned efficiency savings.

Try to negotiate significant transfer of tech and in house production/assembley if buying any new units.

That way you'll have cost-effective AESA multirole platforms. M2K could be the prime A2G arm, and the F-16V and F-16V upgrades for existing Block 50s? would massively improve effectiveness.

Also, buy some more AEW&C. 4 just aren't enough. My airforce (Pakistan) recently used the enemies lack of 24/7 AEW&C coverage in a local theatre to win air dominance in a local engagement. This'll help prevent you from being caught with your pants down against the TuAF etc. I also understand the need for cost-effective solutions to provide new and improved capabilities on a constrained budget, hence this answer.

Regards,

Hi,

F-35 VTOL isn't neccesary for HAF. Also, having had word from some of our pilots who've been around the F-35. I can safely say that it's the best fighter in the world right now.

With the tech comes new capabilities. And right now new fighting concepts are being developed with the F-35.

Older aircraft and airforces are simply unprepared for what this aircraft has to offer.

Regards,

>Macedonia?
Nah they made peace last year. Greece even lifted its veto on Macedonia's EU accession

If they buy now or in the immediate future, F-35
otherwise wait how the Franco-German 6th gen turns out and maybe buy that to have an EU design

I agree, except I don't think they need any indigeneous capabilities/tech transfer, since the US is more than willing to sell

Buy whatever my advisors deem as enough F/A-18s, use the money I saved to fund a man made river leading to the nearest ocean so that my country is no longer land locked, solving a much bigger issue.

This. So much this.

Nothing will piss roaches off as much, as GREEKS flying THEIR F-35s.

they need something to deal with the S-400

F35 with AARGM-ER and SDB2/Spear3 stand a chance

F35 with NSM would deal with their navy

>Greece
>Landlocked
mutts, everybody.

North Macedonia now.