Howa's new prototype for replacing JGSDF type 89 rifle confirmed on patent information web site

Howa's new prototype for replacing JGSDF type 89 rifle confirmed on patent information web site.
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>another variation of papa stoners best rifle

>weeb ar-18
ftfy

Could have sworn there were pics of a mockup of this floating around 6 months ago. Regardless, theres not much to say. The Type 89 is an AR18 with different furniture, so it stands to reason that the modernization of giving it a monolithic quadrail would resemble a SCAR, since the SCAR itself is an AR18 with a monolithic quadrail. Nihil novi sub sole, as they say.

Looks just like Taiwan’s XT107

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Type 89 parts kits when?

Never. Japs will never export that stuff. All deconned gear is stored or destroyed.

It’s an FNC dude. Not an AR18.

No, its not. Howa was literally making AR18s until they decided adopt it as their service rifle, with furniture better suited to Asian manlets. Thats what the Type 89 is.

You’re thinking of the Indonesian service rifle.

Type 89 and AR18 are completely different except for outline and locking method.
AR18 doesn't have moduled trigger mechanism like Type 89.
AR18's gas piston is short stroke, but type 89 is combination of long and short stroke piston.

>combination of long and short stroke piston.
That's not actually possible.

I think he means telescoping.

its hard to explain, but its possible

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Confirmed worst timeline
I wish they would export shit, I'm sure the US would be a gravy train for howa

No it's not.
A long stroke piston rides with the bolt/carrier the full length of the stroke. A short stroke does not.
The type 89 is a short stroke piston of the tappet style.

It’s a cultural and legal thing. Like the idea of exporting military hardware is totally alien.

Guy who originally asked the question. They had law changes in the last few years where they are trying to encourage more export by removing laws that use to forbid military equipment exports. However given its surplus there is no profit motive for a company like Howa.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_Arms_Export_Ban

Link for reference.

They’re relaxing restrictions on certain dual use and hardware that doesn’t have a lethal effect. Weapons parts will not be exported in our lifetimes, especially not for civilian use/sales.

>wants to export more military hardware
>starts giving aircraft and parts away
Japan, that's not how the export arms market works.

It does indicate there migjt be hope for Type 89 parts kits, though.

It does not. You misunderstand the politics involved.

The idea was to relax restrictions to share material with allies when on deployments and expand what can be supplied elsewhere as aid. They aren’t doing it for money, their doing it for political capital.

>Willing to sell Mitsubishi F-15s for money towards new planes
>Not willing to sell Type 89s for money towards nee rifles

Yup, good logic there.

Again... doing FMS or aid is not the same as putting stuff on the civilian market. I live/work in japan right now and have worked several FMS and ATA programs.

I’m trying to put this as simply as possible. The japs loosened export restrictions for .gov sales of certain things but are got getting into civilian markets. The money isn’t actually very important to them... their current rifles cost like $3k per unit whenever they order a run. That’s over 3x what an M4 costs from FNH or colt. Nobody is buying their stuff because they aren’t interested in selling it, and it’s generally way overpriced anyway... some argue by design.

Their logic is probably that the chance of a surplus Mit-15 being used for violence in civilian hands is practically Zero.