They for sale?

France has SLBMs

three oil tankes that act like replenish ships doesnt mean squat

>muh nukes
i mean yeah only an idiot will think that if france gets defeated it will use nukes
LOL

t. bong

>They for sale?
It's Chinese, of course it's for sale. They don't care if you're a druglord, they'll still sell it to you provided you pay them up-front.

>i mean yeah only an idiot will think that if france gets defeated it will use nukes
No you use nukes when you get attacked

Nah, it's clearly that fucking retarded greekposter who's been on Jow Forums lately. He's been in a few threads.

im from italy actually i used to do quite a lot of NIAPC for france italy spain greece and turkey

i have seen the state of bullshit everyone has user

>three oil tankes that act like replenish ships doesnt mean squat
They're not oil tankers. They're actual RAS capable ships, not some

do you even fucking know what replenish means and what RAS?

are you actually saying that me saying replenish is wrong but you saying replenish is right?

Most PLAN ships have export variants. The Type 055 isnt one of them tho.

What?

There is a definitive difference between an oil tanker and replenishment oiler. A oil tanker cannot and does not RAS/UREP or whatever you want to call it.

You calling France's replenishment oilers, oil tankers do not make them oil tankers and you're yet to acknowledge that France beats both in tonnage for auxiliaries that can RAS.

what on earth are you talking about
only usa to my knowledge has ACTUAL duble hulled oil tankers on their fleet

the rest has RAS quite literally what im saying is that france RAS capable is actually the ones that do ALL the replenish of the navy ships not just oil and water

Having a double hull for complying with MARPOL or not does not stop you from RAS, so I have no idea why you're bringing that up. There are a good number of navies that operate double hull auxiliaries.

>france RAS capable is actually the ones that do ALL the replenish of the navy ships not just oil and water
Only to ships that require it. Much like any other RAS capable auxiliary in any other navy.

yes it does stop you you cant fit ras systems on a traditional oil tanker without having to resort on major redesigns

only AUX ships have ras on them and still it has nothing to do with my original reply that france uses their tankers as a general aux ships for their fleet which considering the ammo cargo they have compared to the rest in the med sea is not enough

No Pajeet.

I highly doubt that they wouldn't sell it if given an attractive offer.

which country has the money for the initial cost tho?

I'm not really talking about who would actually buy it, just that China would absolutely sell to anyone interested with the cash to back it up.

well yeah thats my point its a big commitment to slap a totally new weapon system on your invetory especially one that has a gazzilion other weapon systems

>if money is out of question China would
woah sounds like literally every country in the world selling shit to our new second greatest ally of democracy and freedom and champion of human rights and morals the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia as long as the price is right

The Greek navy is trash, don't compare it to the vastly superior French navy unless you mean it to be a butt of a joke. All your ships are shit that Germany makes.

>because surely its about the SHIP and not the armament

you must be american

um... that was a international coalition. 15+ did the bulk of the bombing smoothbrain.

No guns

google a bit before you reply back france literally started bombing days before the muricans arrived and after the 6th day they stopped most of their shorties because they didnt had ammunitions for it

No son. I was literally on the Kearsarge for the operation. The USS Ponce delivered a bunch of cruise missiles to open operations followed shortly after by a ton us assets

German ships have awful armaments.

You are as bad as the damn Italians with your revisionists history. Let me guess, the French liberated themselves in ww2 right lmao

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>yes it does stop you you cant fit ras systems on a traditional oil tanker without having to resort on major redesigns
I never suggested such a thing.

>only AUX ships have ras on them
And I never suggest otherwise.

>my original reply that france uses their tankers as a general aux ships for their fleet which considering the ammo cargo they have compared to the rest in the med sea is not enough
That wasn't your point. To quote you:
>their logistics line is SHORT and certently not enough for the med sea let alone worldwide
>hell both greece and turkey have MORE logistics ships behind them than france
Which is wrong.

>france has literally 3 oil tankers that act like replishing vessels too..
And the two other nations you compared them to have fewer or lighter logistics ships.

posting wiki as a trusted source

washingtonpost.com/world/nato-runs-short-on-some-munitions-in-libya/2011/04/15/AF3O7ElD_story.html?noredirect=on

literally from 2011

I was physically there and am not going to go in super depth to try to prove to a retard such as yourself that the Americans and UK organized and led the way in on that operation.

Your own article supports how minor of a role the French had in the first couple sentences.

i mean you are either THE retard or you are just trying to project yet again the
>!!!111!!! MURICA STRONK

my argument was that france didnt had any sort of logistics capability despite the fact that their ships was a shy 4 hours trip from FRANCE

literally nothing more

>Popdopapdpapdolous
kek

>"france literally started bombing days before the muricans arrived and after the 6th day they stopped most of their shorties because they didnt had ammunitions for it"

No that is your point and its a quote. That was also a blatant lie. Your ass got exposed and now you are back peddling.

Better luck next time Léo

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>france got logistics problem
>had to stop doing most of the shorties
>post proof that said france had logistics problems

>NOOOO YOU ARE A LIAR

well isnt that just a typical day at Jow Forums

France was not bombing fool. That is blatant horse shit. This imaginary logistical problem is nonsense along with it. This is the same sort of French bullshit we see after every NATO action the French are not able or refuse to participate in.

>bu but but we were there too guys!

His point was literally that French logistics suck, not that France is stronk because they bombed whenever wherever (although that's how one could have misread his posts which you did).

see

Day 1

The bullshit is that he is pretending that the French were bombing before the Americans arrived. US/UK NATO force started that engagement and the French were wayyyy behind the curve.

But anyway, cope with this reality how you want frog. I gotta run. Later Leo

>buy 5
>board them
>find out its a bolted tin box covered by plastic sheeting
lelelele

Keen eyes can spot the photoshop in that image, like how on a cloudy day the freaking prow shines like its chromed.

They wouldn’t. Just like how they wouldn’t sell type 052C/D snd the US won’t sell f22

Stfu Ameritard.

China goes further than this by selling to terrorist groups and criminals

wow, reminds me of another nation I know. You know, the one that gave a bunch of weapons to "freedom fighters" to Afghanistan in the 70s and 80s

Listen fuckface. There is no morality in great power politics. The fact that you think selling things to people you don't like really highlights how immature and stupid you are.

Talk about being a schizo, I'm not even an American, neither am I making some statement on morality. Take your medication.

>shilling for the great satan despite not being from there
Talk about pathetic and shameful.

Post your source

Just because I'm not chiming into your obsession with America doesn't mean I'm "shilling" for them. Take your medication

I'm not even the guy you were talking to previously.

>not being able to distinguish between different anons while calling others schizo
Yup, checks out.

Funny, you talk exactly the same.

Maybe to an actual schizo like yourself.

>no u

Here's my fantasy setup for a franco-nized MN 055
Class: l' éclat
Hulls: 4 (C701 Dragon d'Azur, C702 Perle Brillante, C703 Lune Perçant, C704 Tempête Rapide)
Displacement: 13200 tons full load
VLS: 124, combination of Aster 30 Blk1, Blk2, SCALP EG/Naval, Crotale VT1, imported YJ-18 and YJ-12
Others: Euro ASROC
everything else is the same as PLAN 055, except systems need to integrate Euro functionalities.

BOOM, people around the world is gonna be speaking langue française again.

>YJ-18
why? exocets are good
NSM's are also good

>exocets are good
back in the 80's, maybe.

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Holy shit Jow Forums needs to buy one of these and turn it into it's own nation state.

>t. chang

You aren't French, Chang.
Nobody want to buy your cheap, doesn't-meet-spec garbage.

How do we stop China?

>cheap to make
>have multiple ways to launch them
>nobody can really defend against a barrage of missiles

hmm
id say they are quite good still

Stop buying their goods. There, you defeated China.

The escalator-nation is doing it's part, what are you doing?

Me? Getting welfare checks and shitposting on Jow Forums

>stop buying their goods
>suddenly the same goods on american or european working hands costs x300 more
>still wont buy it cause we cant afford it now

ah yeah

Export more Amerimutt QUALITY escalators to China

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Ouch, are they gonna be okay?

>export all the shitty elevators to chinkland to grind up bug legs
>keep all the functional ones for actual people
Based.

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>functional ones for actual people

youtube.com/watch?v=KaGNZi36znA

ummmm

pls buy
need mo jobs fo them shipyards

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It would be an abusing turnabout, given that the Frogs sold the Chinks ships with LM2500 gas turbines that allowed them to build their modern fleet
>seriously, everything that isn’t Soviet surplus is based on what they got from the French

>w*ps
>people
Oh sweetie

>keep all the functional ones
so none
>for actual people
so none

It was actually Russian fans there for a football match
t. Roman

Theoretically, what's stopping me from setting up my own McNavy©, except money of course?

Absolutely false. You’re a fucking retard.
It was the US that sold the LM2500.
And PLAN ships run DN80 derivatives.
Go read a fucking book, fag.

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The entire premise of your argument is flawed. It doesn't cost 300x (where did you get this number?) more to produce goods in the West.

You are right, producing anything in the West is literally impossible due to the lack of any vertically integrated production chains!

nytimes.com/2019/01/28/technology/iphones-apple-china-made.html

Not to mention, an actual lack of skilled workers. Imagine that. White people not being able to compete in terms of skills with Chinese peasant workers, leading to the absolute unfeasibility of domestic iPhone productions. Let that sink in.

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of the flaws in his argument, you go after the 300x hyperbole?
The real mistake he made is assuming production locale is a binary choice, the west or China. It's not. In America's case, very little manufacturing would be on-shored again. They're going to South East Asia, and to a smaller extent, India.

The caveat in this is that changing final assembly location does not remove China from the production chain. The truth is, China has moved up market in the last 20 years. The reason why the entire global consumer electronics industry is clustered around the pearl delta region is because a large portion of the supply chain is there.

35 Percent. That's the content requirement for country of origin. A Made in Vietnam alarm clock only has to have 35% Vietnamese parts to qualify. The Buy American Act has a 50% content requirement.

Yep. That's the global economy.

>Just give all Jow Forumsommando's citizen ship of your armada and the UN will be forced to recognize the sovereignty of your Libertarian McNavy© nation.
The only obstacle is money.

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You got that all backward

you CANNOT have the same production rate at the same production cost in the west vs china or india
PERIOD
its not even a hyperbole
lets say they move to bulgaria (i would have said greece that they are slightly recovering nowdays so bulgaria it is)
they gonna have to face not only the +30% increased wage but also the mandatory paid shit holidays bla bla
PLUS china has compartmentalise their entire country so that if an area increase its minimum wage lets say gansu they can move the production to Qinghai and vice versa untill the said area drops again back

you simply cannot have this shit anywhere in the world

take usa for example their minimum wage are +255% above china

how on earth are you gonna mitigate the cost? LOL

i mean look at this
the amount of iq missing from those spammers that have literally no basic understand how a firewall works is literally the only proof someone needs

Everyone knows that the great copypasta doesn't do jack shit because you aren't actually Chinese. They do it to annoy you.