Replaced by a worse plane

>replaced by a worse plane

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>replaced by a worse plane

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Replaced by a worse plane

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are you saying the plane that would eventually become the f14 is better than it

The F-14 still never met the range or loiter time requirements of the fleet air defense mission. The F-111B met all requirements after Grumman sunk much money into CWIP only for the Navy to cancel it

f111b was too heavy for carrier use.

It was 4000lbs heavier than the F-14, we had much heavier aircraft like the A-3 on our carriers at the time

>replaced by a worse plane

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>Replaced by a worse bullet

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>The F-14 still never met the range or loiter time requirements of the fleet air defense mission. The F-111B met all requirements after Grumman sunk much money into CWIP only for the Navy to cancel it
Would it have outlasted the F-14 if they had selected it? The internal weapons bay and air to ground capability probably would have proven more useful in more recent times.

Did we really need to physically destroy them? Its not like the Iranians would have marched over the ocean to steal them out of the boneyard.

>replaced by a worse president.

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Probably not, still a swing wing maintenance whore.

I miss Bush

>gets replaced by an entirely gay doctrine

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>replaced by a worse missile

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Replaced by a younger sister which is better, But big sister still doing good job nevertheless.

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>replaced by a worse bullet

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rangeban boomers now

Then the navy should have asked for less range or loiter to start with, how is that the designers problem??

The supersonic fighter was even better. We can probably build a superior supersonic fighter flying boat today.

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Is 14 the boomer number?

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What do you miss?

Bad economy?
high oil prices?
Canceling military projects?
dead soldiers?

>laughs in great economy and higher employment and larger middle class

The Iranians have gone to pretty great lengths to get parts, actually, including spies.

>larger middle class

Look at this fucking retard and laugh.

The bush economy was absolutely bonkers for pretty much every year until the last 2 of his presidency user. The .com bubble burst wasnt that large in terms to day-to-day. The housing market didnt start to smell fishy until 06-07 depending where you lived, and it wasnt until around 08 that it went into free fall

Look at how you cant ACTUALLY refute it.
It's beautiful

>ended nightmare of public healthcare
>ended enslavement to china
>ended black poverty, employment rate highest singe slavery
>ended destruction of middle class
promiseskept.com/

I think the last president that had this kind of positive impact on America is maybe Theodore Roosevelt, but even Teddy didn't approach some of these accomplishments.

Obama is nothing by comparison, literally spent $10 to give $1 to the people during the recession, he's a joke who raised our debt considerably.

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>y-y-y-yyou cant refute!
>post refuting him literally below

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>Trump
>running a budget deficit at the same level as Obama did in the recession

Trump great, Obama bad... Jow Forums and economy.

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>TRUMPS PLANS WILL LEAD TO RECESSION RIGHT NOW
You've been saying that since he got elected, we have operated on the Trump plan for almost 4 years now with huge economic improvement.

>Deficit exploded
>Bonds in the shitter
>Tump trying to bang the fed back into QE and free money because he has no idea how economics works
>Only thing floating the market is artificial buy-backs
>Market volatility at 2007 levels
>99% of Americans are in the worst economic shape they've ever been since the Great Depression

When we stop measuring the success of the economy on the basis of how 350 people are doing financially, it's going to be a different story. Rich people executing buy backs with a Republican public-to-private tax funnel while the bond market repeats 2007 isn't "huge economic improvement". No in addition to another massive recession I'm going to have to listen to idiots like you bitch and complain how Democrats tanked the economy again.

Literately my only economic hope for the next 18 months is that the two houses I bought in the last recession sell before this one hits, and that the recession hits before 2020 so there's no way Republicans can duck out of it.

Squawk ident

>>Tump trying to bang the fed back into QE and free money because he has no idea how economics works

They can't and that's what the scariest part of this is. QE sucked on an economic magnitude we've never seen before, but it was still the least sucky of all the options that were around when housing securities ate shit. Trump legitimately thinks that the Government can just print more money to bail people like him out like we did last time. We can't though because we're still holding onto all those shitty structured mortgage securities and junk bonds. Another round of QE will tank the economy, and that's why the Fed is telling Trump to fuck himself on lowering interest rates.

>projected graph was completely wrong

lmao

>Hurr Obama good orange man bad

Leftypol being hypocrites as always

>being this retarded
It's hard to even explain something so simple because you'd expect anyone with basic cognitive function to figure it out on his own.

Deficit causes debt, because money is borrowed to cover the deficit. If you have a large deficit, the debt will increase. Obama completely negated the deficit despite the recession, but the debt increased while he was doing so. The person responsible for that debt isn't Obama, it's the retard who created the massive deficit. Presidents don't magically change things the moment they get into office.

This applies to other issues too. If you set a tendency, it will continue until something makes it change. If Obama set the tendency for reduces in black unemployment, Trump isn't responsible for the black unemployment going down when he got into office.

I don't like Obama and he also caused a lot of shit like pushing for racial discrimination, but if you're out of your debt despite talking about such simple things.

>if we cut taxes it'll kill the economy!

lol who the fuck falls for this?

>Deficit exploded
That's been the case with literally every president since Clinton.

>obama debt grew by 1.5 trillion per year in his first 3 years
>trump debt grew 0.6 trillion per year in his first 3 years
>prediction failed
>it's gonna happennnnn!
llelelelelelellelelel

I can FEEEL you crying

cant wait for trump to exit office with the best economy america has EVER had and you faggots to attribute the win to brobongo the fag trannyfucker

>>obama debt grew by 1.5 trillion per year in his first 3 years
>trump debt grew 0.6 trillion per year in his first 3 years

Tell me the difference between these two periods in time, please and thank you.

Read my post again retard.

Dilate

Republicans had the house and senate for the first two years of Trump, Democrats had the house and senate the first two years of Obama.

AAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAC?RRYRYYYYYYYCRYYYYYCRYYYYYAHHAHAHAHA RUB IT ON MY NIPPLE MMMMMMMHMMMMMMMMM ITS SO GOOOOD

You're expecting basic reading comprehension from a Trump supporter? I've never met a single one that can elaborate on something past a Fox News talking point.

>post below is pro Trump and does nothing to refute his claims

>99% of Americans are the worst they've been since the GD
.....And who exactly is your source for that?

This went from F14s to LITERALLY HITLER very fast

>muh faux news
Still watching cable, not enough programming huh?

It's Jow Forums, what did you expect?

The fan of the guy who gets fucked by a tranny ruined the thread right here That's a permaban but mod will just delete thread and ban the trump supporters as always.

(its ok bro i have dsl)

>look at me I'm retarded
Whatever floats your boat I suppose. We all know that you wouldn't be acting like this if you had an actual argument.

Generally I'm always hopeful that I'm dealing with someone who isn't a hopeless retard, unless it's Armatard specifically. I remember some of the stupid shit I used to post in my teenage years or early 20s and I'm happy that I was corrected and sometimes even flamed for my edginess.

That's not what I said, don't bastardize my words in a quote you dishonest piece of Trumpist shit.

Remember: easiest board to troll.
Don't mind if I post some planes and shit.

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Obama literally gifted the internet to foreigners. That's the equivalent of giving them Alaska or something, no money in the exchange, straight up gift.

There are "people" on this board who think he's not a joke?

He literally just replaced Great Depression with GD.

What you said:
>99% of Americans are in the worst economic shape they've ever been since the Great Depression
What he said:
>99% of Americans are the worst they've been since the GD

How did he bastardize your words?

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what happens if you hump the seat?

>How did he bastardize your words?

Are you serious right now?

>My car is in the worst exterior shape it's ever been in since Tuesday
>My car is in the worst shape it's ever been in since TU.

No wonder you support Trump.

You shit into maximum overdrive, I assume.

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He said, desperately avoiding the question and attacking am abbreviation. Now answer my question:
You said that 99% of Americans are the worst off they've been since the Great Depression.
Who is your source for that?

The seating position reminds me of that one episode of South Park.

Imagine you've been flying for hours on a patrol, and you suddenly need to take a giant stinky shit in that.

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Ok then answer the question he asked
>99% of Americans are in the worst economic shape they've ever been since the Great Depression
>.....And who exactly is your source for that?

>You said that 99% of Americans are the worst off they've been since the Great Depression.

No one said that though, you've completely changed the parameters and end-state of the deceleration and hoped no one would notice it. You see this kind of shit all the time with Trump supporting retards because they think their clever when they're really just idiots. I know exactly what you're about to do because I'm smarter than you and I have this argument for a living. I say, Americans as a mean have the least real purchasing power they've had since about the early 1930s, a combination of inflation and sticky wages. This is a fact easily verifiable with some basic economic charts like inflation, adjusted real wage, things of that nature. You swing back and say "NUHH-UHH YOU SAIHAD DEY WAS DUH WORST OFF EVER! MUH WWII! MUH SMALL POX! MUH PHONEZ N SHEET! MUH BREAD AND CIRCUZ!"

You're an idiot. You're not cute. You're not clever. You're not smart. You're intellectually dishonest and out of your depth since you can't even honestly approach the paradigm, that is blisteringly obvious. Argue honestly, or be dismissed like the child you are.

>Derail 101
You know what you did and you didn't have to

tfw no stelf eagle

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>99% of Americans are in the worst economic shape they've ever been since the Great Depression

got an actual source for this or what?

POST A SOURCE FAGGOT

Pew goes over it pretty well in general, though their model only pushes back to the 70s. The long story short is that real wage isn't adjusting to inflation and hasn't since basically the end of the 60s and our last truly massive economic expansion. For all the luxury and safety we live in, we have about 1/7th of our Grandparents purchasing power and 1/15th of our Great Grandparents purchasing power. Wage growth is nothing anymore while cost keeps going up. Combine that with the fact that basically no one under 35 has any real liquidity or even assets because almost no one borne between 1985 and 2000 can buy anything serious.

pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/08/07/for-most-us-workers-real-wages-have-barely-budged-for-decades/

For all of our opulence, John and Jane Q. Public are economically the worst they've ever been post-industrialization in this Country.

>wages are stagnant

that doesn't mean "99% of Americans are in the worst economic shape they've ever been since the Great Depression"

so do you have a source for this quote or something to back it up or what?

>Dr. Frankeinstein's time in Lybia

Classic Yugos

Not really, they just slapped F-22 exhausts and canards on the model

I don't even know why I bother. You idiots either shift the arguent or just stick your head in the sand like you are now. What do you want Warren Buffet in 4K saying it? Or is any source not going to be a real source? If you can't accept that real purchasing power is the worst it's been, double so when you ratio it against inflation. Quadruple when you make it a function of liquidity vs inflation to real wage ratio. Times ten if you start comparing that figure to pay tranches and see that any growth we have had in individual PP has been about 10% of the population. All that after you've been shown in black and white, by a top tier research agency I really don't want to talk to you because it's obvious you're going to fall on any sword you can to deflect for whatever reason.

This isn't even a stab at Trump really, he's just an idiot following the actions of those before him. It's just the reality of what hyper-capitalistic infinite growth models has done to the United States. Again ,even on a super ficial level I would love to see you point out a period of time between the war and now when the economy has been worst for the majority of individual Americans.

>1 point = worst shape since great depression

jesus christ this is embarrassing

Stop avoiding the question. Do you or do you not have an actual source that directly states that 99% of Americans are the worst off economically that they've been since the Great Depression? And if so, who is this source and would you be so kind as to provide a link?

Are you literate? That's a legitimate question, no joke, shit, or like. Like, what was your score last time you took a reading test?

Oh, I know. But the model looks too damn cool, and looking cool is obviously all that matters.
I love Yugo aircraft. They have such a unique twist to them, a blend of both East and West. Like pic related, which was built quite literally as a flying insurgent. It can take off from literally anywhere, it's light as feathers, and even if your air force is demolished you'd still have some of these to pester a foreign invader with.

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your logic is specious at best, now do you actually have something to back it up or are you going off a single datatpoint that you admit doesn't even go back to the timeframe you state it does

>are economically the worst they've ever been post-industrialization
This is extremely false.

I just gave you one... I ask again, are you literate?

14 year old thai ladyboys are an inherently boomer aspect as well, I think you're right

>No one said that though
You said it here >99% of Americans are in the worst economic shape they've ever been since the Great Depression
Post the source.

It's really impressive that such a small and isolated nation managed to produce a few different and relatively successful airframes, in relatively big numbers

>John and Jane Q. Public are economically the worst they've ever been post-industrialization in this Country.

the shit people will tell themselves

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It wasn't small or isolated.

>For all of our opulence, John and Jane Q. Public are economically the worst they've ever been post-industrialization in this Country.
OK since you don't have the source for claiming
>99% of Americans are in the worst economic shape they've ever been since the Great Depression
Do you have the source that people were better off before industrial age lol?

More than you, apparently, because the source you provided did not even mention the Great Depression. Or 99% of Americans.
And it also mentioned that, while raw wages have been relatively stagnant since the late 70's, most workers have much more in benefits, which are a form of payment.

It's about twice the size of Chicago and landlocked to boot. Also under sanctions for 40 years.

Compared to other countries with an aerospace industry, it was

>>landlocked
nigga wat

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One of the worst movies of all time.

Yugoslavia had a huge coastline, combine Croatia and Montenegro to get an idea. They were obviously a land power, but that coastline was not insignificant. And I thought sanctions were placed at the 90s, after Yugoslavia proper (so to say) collapsed?
They really made some fine aircraft with their (relatively) limited sources, though.

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Serbia still operates some J-22s