ID this shit

Could be a dropped boost stage, an intercept debris, or the remains of a failed missile.

>>implying the whole country isnt the middle of the fucking desert
>>implying the refinery couldnt be behind the photographer
Have you seen the refinery?

Next target is going to be Saudi water desalination plants

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Sure looks like it. Now we just need some confirmation on the timing and location of the photograph.

>remains of a failed missile

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Looks like part of the cruise stage, meaning the missile either failed or was intercepted.

>recovered north of their intended target
Definitely suggests an attack from either Iranian-backed militants in Iraq, or from Iran itself.

Why would Iran bogaloo'd itself into Desert Storm 3? It's like they want to be hit

The IRGC knows that the US public has little appetite for war at the moment, so they can get away with a lot before the Americans would retaliate. Meanwhile, the Saudis and Israelis are unlikely to get involved without guarantees of American support.

they already started attacking those dude try to keep up

They do. Sanctions are crushing them. They know we can't win a shooting war because they are not gonna just sit there and take it like good chumps. They will shut down the straits of hormuz and fuck the global economy, they will activate terror cells all over the western world and shit will get uber spicy. We'd basically have to glass the country. We couldn't "win" a kinetic fight against Afghani goat farmers and we sure as fuck can't "win" against Iran. Welcome to 4th generation warfare.

Obviously Iran, america must invade before they do any more damage to our allies in the free world

saudis were about to make a public stock offering on their state run oil company. This kind of puts a damper on that

>They know we can't win a shooting war
kek

It seems like the IRGC continuously goes stupid at times, forgetting that the propaganda they feed their people does not carry over to the real world. There have been consequences to their actions and something as big as hitting an oil refinery could have significant ones if it is traced back to them. The Saudis and Israelis would not work together (Saddam tried to pit them against each other in 1991 as a way to dissolve the coalition against him) but if one decides it wants a fight with Iran than it would happen, and likely bring the US into it too since there's plenty in the American government who want a go at Iran.

Saudi's only had to develop them because of DARPA. Or did you forget about those Sand Sharks, Zed? How else are they gonna battle those SandSharks unless they had Sand Torpedoes?

Name a shooting war the US has won since WWII.

It's not known if these pictures are specifically ones that were seen in Kuwait. Here's alleged video footage from Kuwait of an object flying south to Saudi-Arabia
Source: twitter.com/L0gg0l/status/1172905674445086720

I'd argue stunts like this are less about them believing their own propaganda and more about fueling it. As long as their enemies decide it's easier to just put up with periodic stunts like this rather than invoking a war and responding, the regime is able to portray an image of strength domestically.

youtube.com/watch?v=oA13akwRFBc

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Desert Storm
Name a shooting war the Iranians have won, ever.

>the US public has little appetite for war at the moment, so they can get away with a lot before the Americans would retaliate.

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lol what did we win? Land? Resources?

I was watching fox today and one of the anchors said the drones used cost specifically 15,000$ each. He was presenting it as evidence for Iran being involved because the houthi rebels might not have been able to afford the attack otherwise. But if he knew they cost 15,000$ each then there must be some public report out there somewhere that specifically names the type of drones used.

It's hard to tell with the Iranians sometimes what their goal is. To gain attention internationally or to tout some victory to their people? In the end any kind of hostility just results in more sanctions/actions which are detrimental to the Iranian people.
You're right that the world has tolerated a lot of their stunts. It results in a temporary raise in tensions, harsh words, and increased military presence, then it dies down until the next time. All it takes though is pushing things too far once and you have an actual war. This latest attack is probably the most serious and if such things continue then that may be the tipping point.

That picture is embarrassing.

Sat images up

twitter.com/AuroraIntel/status/1173326324846518272

Also VP Pence just arrived at the white house unscheduled.

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I dont know what im looking at but these dont look like small holes, pic related. Also claims that there are 19 impact sites:

mynorthwest.com/1513525/the-latest-us-says-intel-points-to-iran-for-saudi-strike/

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Why?

Barbary wars

I'd imagine at least there will be some airstrikes inside Iran. Last time Trump called it off last minute, this time things might be too serious to not respond

That's what my feeling is, the Saudi Air Force hitting some targets.

>there must be some public report out there somewhere that specifically names the type of drones used.
after googling around the only drone confirmed for use by the houthis has about a 100 mile range and a capacity to carry 100lb of explosives. Way too short ranged for this attack unless they smuggled them into saudi

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HESA_Ababil

>Artist's impression of an Ababil-R being launched from a pneumatic truck launcher.

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also link below shows the scale and use of houthi drones recently. These are suicide RC planes. They are not capable of making long range repeat strikes

bellingcat.com/news/mena/2019/01/10/houthis-use-armed-drone-to-target-yemeni-army-top-brass/

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that artist sucks

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Good thing neither USA, Saudi Arabia or Mossad are capable of planting false evidence when it suits their agenda. I mean, those photos of Saddam's WMD trucks were impeccable.

We won the setting of the stage for the planned regional destabilization we are seeing now

No that's what Israel won.

>The Houthis, who have been derided by enemies as backward and tribal, have now launched what Saudi officials estimate to be more than 140 attempted drone flights that they have shot down. Their technology has quickly evolved from small, propeller-powered surveillance drones to a larger plane-shaped model, dubbed UAV-X by United Nations investigators, that can travel more than 900 miles at a speed of 150 miles-per-hour, according to the U.N.—putting much of the Gulf, including the Saudi and Emirati capitals, within range.
defenseone.com/news/2019/05/the-d-brief-may-03-2019/156731/
>The field's distance from rebel-held territory in Yemen demonstrates the range of the Houthis' drones. U.N. investigators say the Houthis' new UAV-X drone, found in recent months during the Saudi-led coalition's war in Yemen, likely has a range of up to 1,500 kilometers (930 miles). That puts Saudi oil fields, an under-construction Emirati nuclear power plant and Dubai's busy international airport within their range.
pbs.org/newshour/world/yemen-rebel-drone-attack-targets-remote-saudi-oil-field

>UAV-X

Are you trying to say that US and Israel are separate?

>won by destabilizing the region
>half of the region is just Iranian proxies
Not helping your argument kid

fair enough.

lmfao based user
nigga tried to get him with the us and israel puppet move but in reality they're a symbiotic parasitical relationship in where they both benefit and suffer

The angle of attack was northwest, why would the Houthis bother to force the UAV-X to make a turn to attack from the NW instead of the SW, esp when attacking this refinery is already reaching the outer limits of the UAV-X?

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i that propeller or just contorl surfaces

Although, looking at the UN report this doesn't look like what's in OP's image.

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jpeg version

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did they hit sand or what ?

Debris indicate the Quds was used, not the Sumar.
Since it's pretty safe to assume the Yemeni aerospace industry isn't at its peak right now, that would mean Iran developped a version of the Sumar specifically for export/proxy.
Also, since there's more than 17 impacts recorded, that means that the video shot in Kuwait was either incomplete/inaccurate, or that the missiles were shot from several locations.
The seemilngly shorter range of the Quds compared to the Sumar basically exclude they were shot from Yemen.
>armscontrolwonk.com/archive/1208062/meet-the-quds-1/

Maybe they thought there was a bit less risk of running into AA that way? Or perhaps their preferred targets were in the NW part of the facility, and they didn't want to bother with having things try to fly over/through it. And since it had the range, well, why not?

I don't think the Saudis have that kind of close range, small target AA like CIWS or Pantsir

>US officials say

>Desert Storm
We "won" by setting very specific victory conditions that pointedly did not include overthrowing Saddam and setting up a puppet government. Because as Bush Sr. said in his book, and his idiot son proved, here was no way we could do that and come out ahead.

Control of Kuwait.

Gonna need some references images and a breakdown. You have war journalism experience, right?

And they chose to list on the Hong Kong Exchange. Dumbass Sandnigras

When I worked in a refinery we called those "Onions". They store LPG in them I believe, and that must be a propane/butane plant or LPG terminal. LPG is actually pretty safe because it wont burn unless it is vaporized and exposed to a pretty significant amount of oxygen. The tanks are probably shot since they can no longer hold pressure, but it doesn't look like there was a fire or any explosive decompression. Pretty pathetic attempt at damaging oil/gas infrastructure desu.

>Pretty pathetic attempt at damaging oil/gas infrastructure desu.

hehe
bbc.com/news/business-49710820

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>not posting the historically correct edit
Cringe.

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Well there we have it

>Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran

But we did successfully overthrow Saddam and set up a puppet government with fairly little difficulty. It was just a shitty, dumb idea to begin with. Funnily enough, Cheney and other neocons were some of the loudest voices against continuing the attack on Iraq after the Highway of Death.

ohshi-

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Can someone explain why we're calling cruise missiles drones now?

youtube.com/watch?v=s8hEtI9AI0U
Went to a

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He's gonna pussy out, just like last time.

Israelli

because liberal media says "Yemen didindu nuttin"

We can absolutely beat Iran in a conventional war. The problem is the terrorist remnants. Iraq showed that toppling a regime is ezpz, cleanup duty is hard.

Hi MBS

Drone swarms are the new defense "journalism" buzzword. Expect to see it misused a lot for the next few years.

>cleanup duty is impossible.

Watch the 4th gen warfare linked earlier in the thread.

>Iraq is Iran
Jow Forums

That's the retarded video pontificating on "muh death of the west", right?

Drone sounds scarier; to a simple mine the deep "o" phoneme and strong "d" are more ominous than something that cruises and misses.

Iran couldn't beat Iraq in a war. America beat Iraq in days. Why would Iran stand up better to America than Iraq did?

>Iran will be a conventional war
>Iran will fight like it's a conventional war
>Iran will be like Iraq all over again
>Iran will be the Tanker Wars again
>Iran is just like Iraq in every way, shape, and form
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drone swarms carrying missiles are interesting because you can saturate a defense while increasing the effective range of your missiles

drones that explode are just missiles, and missile swarms have been a thing almost as long as missiles have

Lmao Iraq was backed by everyone while Iran was in a military purge and Islamist coup. We started a tanker war with them too.

Honestly, we should just nuke Tehran and be done with it.

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>If I keep spouting strawmen eventually he'll stop replying
you're right about one thing

>say retarded things
>get retarded rebuttals
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Because everybody initially thought they were drones from Yemen.
We're now pretty sure they were cruise missiles from either Iraq or Iran.

no it's about the return to pre-westfalian warfare. Which I'm sure you know the meaning of...

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The Iranian government will be toppled in weeks at best but insurgents will fight on indefinitely. Iran can try to meme on the straits of Hormuz but America can literally throw missiles at everything that moves until everything stops moving. You wouldn't be sending a carrier into the gulf unless you're suicidal anyways, and America can happily base in Saudi airbases. If you see a way for Iran to make it a fair fight, do expand.

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Its not like there's a Radical Islam Saudi Arabian backed Genocide going on

Why not nuke TelAviv instead?

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And we'll make it to the capital within one week and bomb those evil sandniggers so hard, we'll turn the Zagros into a plain.

Yeah I heard this before, have fun when you're slogging through those mountains kid.

Bingo.

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