Amy Coney Barrett is a gun grabber. Don't be fooled.
As proof, I offer Rickey I. Kanter v. William P. Barr, a civil case decided in March of this year in the 7th Cirtcuit. The case concerns the plaintiff's right to possess a firearm after being convicted of a non-violent felony in Wisconsin. To be clear, Barrett supports Kanter's right to possess a firearm under the 2nd Amendment, in contradiction of the panel's negative ruling. I repeat: do not be fooled.
I refer you to her dissenting opinion, beginning on p27. But more specifically, paragraph 1 on p29, where Barrett states: >It is one thing to say that certain weapons or activities fall outside the scope of the right. See District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570, 627 (2008) (explaining that “the sorts of weapons protected were those ‘in common use at the time’” (citation omitted)); Ezell v. City of Chicago, 846 F.3d 888, 892 (7th Cir. 2017) (Ezell II) (“[I]f … the challenged law regulates activity falling outside the scope of the right as originally understood, then ‘the regulated activity is categorically unprotected, and the law is not subject to further Second Amendment review.’” (citation omitted)); Ezell v. City of Chicago, 651 F.3d 684, 702 (7th Cir. 2011) (Ezell I) (drawing an analogy between categories of speech, like obscenity, that fall outside the First Amendment and activities that fall outside the Second Amendment). It is another thing to say that certain people fall outside the Amendment’s scope.
paragraph 2, p32; >It does, however, give us a place to start. Heller’s reference endorses the proposition that the legislature can impose some categorical bans on the possession of firearms. See id. (“That some categorical limits are proper is part of the original meaning.”). Our task is to determine whether all felons— violent and nonviolent alike—comprise one such category.
paragraph 1, p54; >Thus, although the right protected by the Second Amendment is not unlimited, see Heller, 554 U.S. at 595, its limits are not defined by a general felon ban tied to a lack of virtue or good character.
Whenever Barrett has the chance to refer to elements of Heller comparatively, she uses it to implicitly affirm that its suggested limitations on the kinds of firearms protected under the 2nd Amendment are reasonable. This is not a person who fundamentally cares about 2A. This is not somebody we can count on to protect the right to keep and bear arms if appointed to SCOTUS.
Liam Gray
Yeah
Leo Reed
Ahahaha, this is rich. We have Dems calling for Kavanaugh's impeachment, and now shills bashing Amy Barrett. So, when is the official announcement of RBG's terminal diagnosis?
David Taylor
I was just thinking that.. They jumped back on Kav outta now where and then a few hours later i start seeing threads everywhere expressing a lot of "concern" over Barrett. Ginsberg or Sotomayor must behaving new issues.
Justin Flores
Are you kidding me? Read the text. I only bothered posting this because the entire rucking right seems to have blindly coalesced around this meme candidate as the inevitable replacement for RBG, with no consideration for how her confirmation might affect 2A. And that's because until this ruling she has had, as far as I can tell absolutely nothing to say about it. Then the first chance she gets as a judge, she goes to pains to characterize Heller's shortcomings on protections for firearms as reasonable.
And you're rich accusing me of shilling. When was the last time Jow Forums (or anybody else) trusted a woman in a position of power to take action favorable to gun owners? Why Barrett? Personally I'd rather see Thomas Hardiman, who is on record as supporting broad carry rights (and having a similar opinion to Barrett when it comes to non-violent felons owning firearms) nominated to SCOTUS. I guess he's too normal though.
I mean, none of this shit matters until those fucking codgers start hearing gun cases in the first place, they should have done more before the media got their collective menstruals about guns all over again because of some white dude who LARPs as a mexican.
Cameron Jenkins
Who the fuck cares so long as she's better than Ginsbitch?
Landon Parker
White women will be the absolute downfall of this nation.
Are you saying that because she's not full-on "SHALL", she's not pro gun? You're a fucking idiot, it's literally the best we can hope for.
Hunter Bailey
>Read the text. I did. It's an extreme stretch to call her anti-2A. This whole thread reeks of matzo.
Dominic Thompson
LMAOOOOOO!! White people are a fucking joke!!
Leo Bailey
If you can't have kids, why would you be opposed to adopting kids?
Isaac Campbell
>right to possess a firearm after being convicted of a non-violent felony Okay, but I’m all for grabbing guns from convicted felons. Don’t want to lose your rights? Don’t commit a felony.
No tears for criminals from me.
Benjamin Rodriguez
It's like not being able to eat icecream so you eat mayonnaise instead
Cameron Edwards
This. It seems like the shills are out in force with all that Kavanaugh stuff, and now this. I’m betting we hear some bad/good news involving Ginsberg soon.
Juan Rivera
>Why Barrett? Just to rub shitlibs' long noses in the fact that it's not sexism holding back their degenerate candidates.
Grayson Young
Except everything is a felony these days. And they grab guns for misdemeanors now, too.
Jose Wright
KYS, statist.
Jaxon Reyes
You should care because eventually there is going to be a Democrat president who has enough sway in Congress to pass AWB 2: This Time It's Permanent, and John Roberts sure as shit isn't going to overturn it. He might not even stop a buyback. There are four solid 2A votes on the bench right now, and we need a fifth.
>it's literally the best we can hope for. I linked a better alternative, Hardiman, who has already been on SCOTUS shortlists, in my follow-up post.
It's also an extreme stretch to call me a jew for pointing out the flaws in the presumptive frontrunner for the next SCOTUS vacancy. I'm happy to come back to the middle though. My point is that while Barrett may not be explicitly anti-2A. she doesn't seem to have an expansive fondness for it. There are other viable justices who do.
She argued AGAINST denying 2A rights to classes of people. The only way you can find fault in her use of Heller is if you're an absolutist. Very few of us are absolutists. There are conceivable reasonable limits on the 2A. Just not anything like what shitlibs call reasonable. IMO the standard should be based on what kinds of weapons would be useful to an insurgency. We should have MANPADS, but not nukes.
Zachary Foster
>Amy Say no more. Gun grabber confirmed.
Jaxson Cox
You're treating Heller like some kind of Pyrrhic victory. It's not. It was just a small victory.
Daniel Gutierrez
Fucking this. I’m shocked that anons here would give her any benefit of the doubt this considered. Whoever gets put in RBG’s seat won’t be nearly based enough on guns for us, but I think Barrett is a far cry from what we can reasonably hope for.
Blake Jackson
I agree with everything you said. What strikes me as alarming about her opinion is that, in the context of what Heller actually did and didn't achieve, Barrett doesn't seem to have any problem with 2A not protecting weapons currently commonly possessed and used by the general public, such as semi-auto rifles (which would be useful to an insurgency).
This is fair, yes.
Jace Cruz
Adoption is perfectly valid, some people just can't have kids, and besides, your lady doesn't have to spend 6 or more months out of work and recovering. If your point was that blacks are somehow inferior, I would caution you that some of the most brilliant men are blacks (raised by whites and/or as if they were white), and your approach is inherently flawed.
William Ortiz
>Barrett doesn't seem to have any problem with 2A not protecting weapons currently commonly possessed and used by the general public, such as semi-auto rifles
Because anyone that's not a blazingly activist judge can come to that conclusion based on the very simple majority opinion in Heller. Heller was a weak ass ruling that basically left anything that's not a full blown categorical denial of the right to own large classes of weapons open. We've seen that hold up time and time again with cases like Kolbe.
Heller was not nearly as strong a ruling as people think it is. It was written to be narrowed from the bottom and the SCOTUS is fine with that.
Jonathan Lee
So if my wife can't physically bear children and I am sterile due to radiation exposure, I am a cuckold for making an abandoned child's life less miserable? You're a fucking idiot. Brood parasitism doesn't even apply because I don't have any other kids.
Joshua Sanchez
Raised by whites, they'll probably end up smarter than you, fucking Mongoloid. Please rope yourself before you knock up some hamplanet and she squirts out another subhuman.
Chase Martinez
I don't even know why you're bothering.
Nolan Gray
doing gods work user
>Raised by whites boi, dont you know you cant polish a turd
Ethan Phillips
I agree! With that being the case, do you want what may well be the last conservative justice appointed for decades (assuming that RBG doesn't hold on until the next Democrat, which I frankly think she will) to be somebody who isn't an activist on 2A?
Easton Rogers
>The only way you can find fault in her use of Heller is if you're an absolutist SHALL
Brody Thomas
I don't think it matters, and here's why;
Lets say one of the liberal wing leaves tomorrow and Trump nominates John Mosses Browning himself to the bench. We still have Chief Justice Roberts who remains an unknown quantity even after Heller. We also have Justice Kavanaugh, whom the GOP and McConnell didn't want, and whom I honestly don't think is going to make it through the next Democratic administration because like it or not he fucking perjured himself during his conformation, not even behind that rape accusation which I'm willing to regard as completely bogus. We also have Gorsuch whom is somehow managing to fill this weird niche of liberal constutionalist. He's different to the law and respects the Constitution but he does it though a liberal lens; he's basically Merrick Garland in a different wrapper. Neither of them have a record on the 2A; I don't trust Gorsuch to rule the way we would like because he's not an activist and isn't going to bend Heller or the consensus of lower courts very much and Kavanaugh is a shitty little authoritarian weasel who I bet anything would rule against the 2A if it was framed as a LEO safety issue.
As it stands right now, we have 4 against 2A cases, 1 probably against 2A cases, 2 unknowns that would swing against us if it was framed right, and 2 good to go types. I'm going to get accused of blackpilling here but Heller made the 2A a state issue, and gun owners need to quit worrying about Federal nonsense and worry about the state level stuff.
Evan Brown
I used to be a racist and hold similar beliefs, but I've moved away from those beliefs and I want to try to help others. Fredrick Douglas, Kofi Annan, and Thurgood Marshall are three black men who are among the smartest .00001% of men who ever lived. Also black.
Luis Thomas
Nice larp. I used to be a hardcore anti-racist, but then I actually got a job and met blacks in the real world and wow, they are all dumber than whites by a large margin. Some of them can be quite nice, still dumb. You have never been in a situation where a black person was the smartest person in the room. I fucking guarantee it.
Colton King
Yes, I've read Three Felonies A Day. It brings up an interesting point, but it's also kind of bullshit, too. The vast majority of (white) people manage to never get a felony conviction on their record. That's because they don't commit any actual crimes. I have little sympathy for people who do. >statist Guilty as charged. The biological reality of the situation is: hominids are social and violent.Because of this, any group we form will end up needing some form of government in order to reign in the worst excesses of human behavior. As long as this government derives from legitimate authority, respects the basic rights of the people, and operates under due process of law, I accept it as a necessity. Anyone who doesn't is a delusional utopian.
Cameron Jones
so how do we make our support of Kethledge or Hardiman known?
You're forced to prove you're not part of the same group of faggots that had registered domain names and written articles to boilerplate reject whoever Donald Trump nominated to the Supreme Court. It doesn't help when you write your case like a Jow Forums schizo.
Dominic Thompson
Oh screw off shareblue.
Christian Long
this argument always makes me laugh pretty hard
blacks raised by blacks turn out like shit blacks raised by whites turn out good
liberals response: SEE LOOK THEY'RE JUST LIKE US THEY HAVE POTENTIAL
sure, if they aren't raised by other blacks hahahaha oh man that's rich
Nathan Gray
>We also have Gorsuch whom is somehow managing to fill this weird niche of liberal constutionalist. Put another way, he is essentially libertarian. His rulings to me so far suggest he will strongly support the second amendment as a matter of individual liberty. But more importantly, he joined Thomas' dissent against the court refusing to take Peruta. >Neither of them have a record on the 2A Kavanaugh absolutely has a record on 2A. In his dissent on the ruling in Heller v DC he says explicitly that DC v Heller did not go far enough to protect gun rights.
I will grant you that Kavanaugh could contort himself to rule to the contrary in a SCOTUS case in a scenario such as you suggested. Never good to put too much faith in the supremes. But I am reasonably confident that he would not. As for him getting impeached... I'll believe it when I see it.
Regarding the federal/state dynamic of 2A case law, I agree that Heller opened it up to much more state litigation. With that said, I would like to think opportunities remain ahead of us to expand gun rights at the federal level, with the right court.
Christian Diaz
>There are conceivable reasonable limits on the 2A. There are not.
>I am a cuckold for making an abandoned child's life less miserable?
no, you're an idiot for making choices that led to you becoming sterile and for choosing a woman that can't have kids. you're also an idiot for letting your emotions rule you, for letting your desire to care for young, any young overpower your ability to use reason. when you take in that african kid you're supporting an r-selected race's offspring that always have more than they can support. when you take in a kid from some single mother you're supporting the offspring of a couple that made some seriously bad choices. when you support the children of poor decision makers you propagate their poor decision making genes.
if you're sterile but don't have the willpower to ignore the urge to care for young then just get a pet. atleast dogs and cats can't vote away the freedom and resources from others.
Carter Jenkins
>Rickey I. Kanter This cunt ripped off Medicare for $375,000, he got caught selling substandard garbage to injured and/or elderly people that was paid for by tax-paying citizens. In a plea deal, he dodged a 20 year sentence and served less than a year in prison. He's a fucking scumbag felon, and a convicted criminal. He shouldn't have had his rights returned, he should have been whipped and publicity executed.
Kayden Robinson
Sometimes you people are fucking retarded. This isn't race-mixing you thick headed faggots. They adopted those girls and are raising them in a home with values that are bound to be incomparably better than what they would've had.
Nigger is a condition, not a skin color. Raising children well is the cure.
It's also silly to quote opinions, where she's obligated to abide by SCOTUS rulings, as indicative of what decisions she'd make writing SCOTUS opinions. It'd be more indicative to find personal writings or opinions where there's not SCOTUS precedent to see where she falls.
This is one of the worst threads I've ever seen on Jow Forums... Wait aren't we on Jow Forums?
Jordan Powell
yeah you're still a cuckold. you failed as a living organism
Anthony Richardson
Back to leftypol you retard
Kevin Smith
No officer it isn't
Logan Flores
this is the literal definition of cuckholdy. Read up the actual breeding patterns of the cuckoo bird.
Angel Parker
Only violent felons should have their rights stripped and if they can't be trusted with a gun they should still be in jail.
Andrew Walker
You have options other than raising a total stranger's kid. Try being supportive of your nephews and nieces, assuming you have any. Every little bit helps. Better than paying for a kid because their parents are in jail and/or they fucked off somewhere.
Leo Wilson
I just wanted to point out that quite a few of these posts in this thread read EXACTLY like the back and forth between the Krassenstein brothers when they were still on twitter. You leftist shills need to try harder.
I got the feeling she was evoking the limits of Heller in her dissent not to support them but to make it clear that she was aware of them and still believes non violent felons deserve 2A protection Would take her over Roberts any day
