Can you even make bullets/wire with copper pennies? Are they useful for anything?
Are copper pennies worth hoarding?
Ian Allen
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Austin Sullivan
Is it true that they cost more than a penny to produce?
Cameron Lewis
For the past 40 years roughly, pennies are 90% zinc. If you scratch one deep enough, you'll see what I mean.
Gotta get the older ones for high copper content
Anthony Clark
No
Yes but that includes the energy used to form the copper
Ryder Moore
They're more /diy/ than Jow Forums. I guess you could put them in a shotshell.
Jeremiah Williams
You can use copper to make bullets but it's a huge pain; you're better off stockpiling lead for that purpose.
And if you do want to stockpile copper for whatever reason there are far better sources than pennies.
Blake Perry
Like what?
Samuel Wilson
Zin+copper=brass. You can melt the pennies and make brass.
Zink is negativity charged copper is positively charged. If you sand one face of the pennies and line them up with a thin spacer in-between you can make a bimetal battery that lasts a long time. There are totorials on YouTube.
Jaxson Rogers
Pennies from before 1982 are 95% copper with some zinc.
Pennies made in 1982 might be either 95% copper or 97.5% zinc since both kinds were minted that year.
Pennies minted 1958 and earlier are "wheat pennies" and usually more valuable to collectors than they are in melt value.
Aiden Reyes
Copper pipes, copper wire, electrical pannals, car engines, light poles. Go to a scrap yard user, bring wire cutters, have fun.
Ayden Edwards
You gotta be careful when melting zinc though. You really don't want to breathe it.
Anthony Ramirez
Batteries
Angel Allen
You can theoretically hammer them into bowl shapes and use them as liners in small shaped charges. As others have said, they are mostly zinc but they work well when a very small charge is required for breaking a lock or some other similar task. Of course, the manufacture of explosives is highly illegal and I'm not advocating it in any way.
Henry Cox
Speak for yourself.
Hudson Price
Brass is TIN and copper, dummy.
Parker Peterson
>Zink is negativity charged copper is positively charged.
Parker Morris
Is there like a big book that jihadis use to make this shit? Or do they just word of mouth?
Ethan White
user did you learn nothing from the rs days
CuZn brass
CuSn bronze
Henry Fisher
Internet, word of mouth, training camps
Hudson Sanders
95% of people out there are not going to have the technical expertise or equipment necessary to turn fucking copper pennies into anything useful. You're better off stockpiling things that will have actual use/trade value.
Having said that, the happening will never happen. Spend that money on fun stuff instead of paranoia.
Joshua Hernandez
Blake Thomas
It's largely publicly available information with countless technical manuals and a wealth of scientific data available online. There are also niche online communities of 'energetic materials enthusiasts' that are constantly experimenting, improvising and sharing their findings with each-other.
Austin Martinez
All you need is a hammer and anvil.
But if Russian super bio weapon technology survives and thrives in the wastelands of Siberia then making anything would be moot.
Xavier Lopez
shrapnel bombs
Levi Campbell
Pennies do cost more to produce than 1 cent, you can't get the fuel to melt it, machinery to shape it, or the materials, or labor costs down to less than one cent. It's entirely ridiculous to expect it to be less than a cent to make.
I collect coins in my gun safe for a couple reasons. When I got into prepping when I thought about an emergency fund of money paper fiat currency would be vulnerable to fire in a save and with explosive powder in there, there is no chance it would make it. Coins might, and at the very least could potentially get sold for scrap if they were too badly damaged at mineral value. Also do it to weigh down the safe, figure if someone wants to steal it I could throw some sand bags in there, but at that point I might as well just kill two birds with one stone and fill it with coins instead of sand. Plus it's a lot easier for someone to walk off with dollar bills, I'd rather make it as difficult as possible with individual coins that can be difficult to transport.
I wouldn't necessarily go with pennies but coins themselves aren't the worse to store as an emergency fund. A lot of places won't take a huge sum of cash in coins, but it's meant as an emergency fund that's always there in case of emergency so I'd really have to put in effort to bring them in to cash out for fiat if I really wanted to use it making it easier to keep as emergency cash that's available.
Your mileage may vary.
Angel Rodriguez
Where are some of these communities?
Blake Clark
>illegal to melt pennies and nickels specifically for this reason
>scrap yard wont accept mysterious ingots for obvious reasons
>cost of fuel to melt copper and nickel
it's autism.
Hudson Green
Talking about storing long term dingus.
John Sanders
No, but quarter and dimes made in 1964 or before are worth keeping if you find them. They are 90% silver. Not many in circulation anymore but I've found a few.
Brayden Wright
Meant to reply to you here So while it costs more than a penny, it's not really that big of a deal because pennies have different values that aren't necessarily tied to it's face value, so 1 doesn't = 1.
Like other people were saying though I don't think they're worth hoarding due to the zinc content. If you scratch a pennies rim with a file, then drop it in hydrochloric acid it'll eat away the zinc and leave the copper behind as a thin leaf that still has the printing on it.
Dylan King
Do you even know how copper wire was invented?
Two Jews fighting over a penny.
Julian Kelly
Use Google you illiterate fuck
Juan Mitchell
>TFW exposed to zinc fumes all the fucking time at my job
FUCK
Julian Martinez
What does this have to do with weapons?
Landon Rivera
How about you read the fucking OP you double nigger.
Benjamin Walker
Rather not say here.
Kayden Davis
It's never going to be legal to melt pennies.
Lincoln Williams
With a vice, hammer, and file, you can make arrowheads out of pennies.
Jace Kelly
Your mistake was thinking money has any value when SHTF. In almost every societal collapse, money has been absolutely worthless to the average citizen and soldier. You'd be wise to stock on up adulterants instead; cigarettes, booze, painkillers, etc.
Pic related.
Angel Thomas
Yes. For the entirety of history governments have struggled to stop people from capturing marginal value from buillion coins -- scraping, shaving, or cutting them to save the bits of gold which add up, or melting down, subtracting, and then adulterating them, which is the origin of the phrase about good money driven out by bad. People would worry about specific mintings as an indication of purity. The earliest and freshest coins are almost always much more pure than those which have been circulating for a long time or were minted later as a particular government ran into trouble.
John Rogers
They are worth hoarding when the melt value exceeds the face value, which is why the U.S. moved away from silver coins in 1965
To keep the cost down, pennies after 1982 are copper-coated zinc.
Would argue currency still has value as long as the market has faith in it sempai. Post-1917 the Russian peasantry was still using Czarist currency for that reason.