Is it likely a 25 y/o eurofag (NATO) can immigrate to the USA and work for the government for a quick citizenship or...

Is it likely a 25 y/o eurofag (NATO) can immigrate to the USA and work for the government for a quick citizenship or college loan waiver? Or how does this work?

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No.

Then what's the best way to getting a citizenship?

Pretty sure you can join the military as active duty as long as you qualify for a green card. You’d get citizenship at the end of your contracted service. Not really experienced with the process, but it’s certainly worth looking up.

No reserve?

Not as far as I’m aware. They generally want a full-time commitment out of someone who’s going to be getting citizenship in return. Considering how it can take decades for people going the normal route, it’s actually a pretty good deal.

>decades
What the fuck everything I've read states a static 5 year wait. God damn it I just wanna make money and own guns.

Lots of people wanna come into the US. You can move into the country as a permanent resident and work fairly quickly, which would also give you the legal right to own weapons, assuming you went the green card route, but actually becoming a citizen takes quite some time. Assuming you have a degree, the process wouldn’t be too tedious, but it’d be worth getting a consultation with an immigration attorney if you’re seriously considering it.

I've a bachelors in applied mathematics and informatics from a world-accredited university. I want to get a masters in the US and make cash, get some mula, handshake some Benjamins, join team green, bring home some bacon. And do it real fast and smooth-like. I actually love the USA personally.

Join, go Active. You can become a citizen at the end of basic training. Do a year or two and get a GI bill out of it too, I'm not sure how that works for a masters but it probably covers it.

>at the end of basic
Haha what?
>Do a year or two
Isn't one year sufficient contract? Can I choose the branch of armed forces and what are the chances of instantly getting sent to firefights or what do active duty do?
Sorry, my country has mandatory drafts and it's differet.

If you’ve got a good GPA with that degree, consider applying for master’s programs at US universities. Student visas are fairly easy to obtain for highly-qualified candidates. Money-wise, I’m not sure how it is for foreign students or math majors specifically, but many STEM master’s programs are effectively paid for by the research work performed by the students as opposed to tuition. You’d be living poor while you studied, but it’s quite possible that you wouldn’t come out of it in any debt. A number of my math profs in my engineering courses had immigrated to the states as students, so it seems to be pretty common in that field.

>research work
I'm not sure about that, in Europe that's a prerequisite for a PhD. Overall it doens't sound bad.

For most STEM subjects, my understanding is that graduate students are expected to work with PhDs and PhD candidates on research papers as part of their course of study. My very limited experience is in engineering as an undergrad, though, so I really don’t know how that works in the math world. Either way, math departments at most universities in the US are full of foreign nationals, so it’s definitely a feasible route to take.

Ah, it's computer science (applied mathematics), not pure math. I'm the T in STEM. THanks for your input. You served?

Pick the Army because it's huge, has tons of different jobs, and will let you choose one and have it guaranteed in your contract. Pick something involving math. You'll wake up, roll out of bed, go dick with radio antennas or whatever, go eat food at a cafeteria, go back to work, go home, sleep, repeat. Chances of getting in a firefight are basically zero right now unless you specifically volunteer for a special new unit that essentially stands around waiting for green on blue attacks. There are ways to get out early in less than 2 years (you can apply for it, etc) but I don't know them. 2 years isn't a long time and it's not a bad gig. Aside from basic training and AIT you will have free time to do other shit.

If two years is too much for you then don't come; it's a reduced time frame by more than half and you learn a skill with government qualifications no one else can get if done correctly.

If serving scares you this much, seriously don't do it. You're not meant to.

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So basically, move to the US, be eligable for a green card, go to a recruiter, sufer, and get a green card at the end of your service?

Be mexican and hop the border.

I've wanted to be this cool action hero since I was a kid but now reality approaches.
Wow that's actually pretty good, I thought you get served tough shit and sent as a human shield. I still think 2 years is plenty to miss out on the market. I don't know. Could work on open source project. Are there computers and internet in the army? Totally worth citizenship tho.

You need the green card before you talk to the recruiter. And keep in mind, they can and will kick you out for "failure to adapt" if you're not handling it well. If 2 years seems like a long time and you view the experience as suffering, you will probably be one of the ones who doesn't make it through.

Also, most contracts are for longer than 2 years. Most are for 4, some for 6. If you don't think you could survive 4 years, don't bother.

Citizen ship and other benefits sure, idk about quick

Hilarious; be 35 series and do some boring shit with great qualifications.

Again, you sound scared as shit and you haven't even signed anything. I would avoid it if it's this bad already.

I’ve seen some foreigners in the Guard, idk what their citizenship was before joining tho

I work with a few koreans and a russian guy within our battalion trying to get citizenship in the guard but they are doing an 8 year contract and have to be within good standing in the guard ( no dishonorable discharges, no failing PT scores / marksmanship) basically dont be a bag of shit.

A lot of technology jobs tend to be closed to foreign nationals due to the clearance requirements and classified nature of the work. However, I wouldn’t be surprised if the basic IT and network admin jobs are open for anyone. At the end of the day, the benefits on top of citizenship can be pretty good, despite the shitty pay. You’d be getting free healthcare, free college when you get out (can be used to pay for a master’s as well), along with tuition assistance (which ends up paying most of your costs) while you’re in if you want to take classes in your spare time. It’s a pretty good deal if you’re willing to give them the time.

>35 series
Ding ding ding. Now we're talking. I was shit scared of applying for a mathematician and getting sent to *stan because listen to orders private. It's not combat that gets me, I've done training already in my country. It's actually going out and losing a finger or two - those are my moneymakers

>free healthcare
For the duration of the contract, right? This thread shone some light, it's all better than I expcted.

Honestly, right now, the US military isn’t sending a lot of people to combat zones. Maybe Iran will change that in the next few months, but your odds of being deployed are pretty low, even if you’re just regular infantry.

Correct, along with lifetime coverage for any health issues that you can attribute to your time in service.

Fucking based.
Damn all the 35 series MOS require citizenship *and* top secret clearance. I'll look into it some more.

It might be worth looking at what the navy and marines offer in that regard. They have a bit more history accepting foreigners into service I think, and there should be some IT positions that don’t require clearance. Overall, if you’re seriously interested, consider calling or getting an appointment with a recruiter at the closest US military base to your country. They’d probably know more about the process than anyone here, or at least know who to point you towards to find out more.

Thanks, all anons in this thread are based and redpilled.

Dawg full enlistment isn't that bad, you still have a life it's not like you're military 24/7. You can fuck bitches, play video games, go on vacations.

Mostly you report for PT or training once and awhile and have a couple deployments to buttfuckistan.

This

>couple deployments
What so you don't literally go and live abroad for these years?
>buttfuckistan
What happens in buttfuckistan to POGs?

Nah, the US military rotates personnel through combat areas pretty often. Depending on your job, you’ll spend most, if not all of your time at a base in the US or somewhere cool like Britain, Korea, Japan, or Germany.

No you live in America for 99% of the time.

On deployment you're basically a glorified janitor or IT guy and you will likely see like 3 days of gunfire. Plus you get paid more on deployment and all your food and housing is provided so you come home with shit loads of money.

>3 days of gunfire
Like Black Hawk Down gunfire or shoot-at-bushes gunfire?

Like "see those things that might be people like 300 yards away, I think they're shooting in our direction".

Days of breaching houses and coming home in a body bag are over, unless we get into some new shit you will likely fire your gun in combat once if you are lucky.

That's reassuring.

If you’re not a grunt, you’ll be unlikely to see any combat at all. Assuming you ever get deployed to begin with, the most action you’ll probably see are periodic poorly-aimed mortar attacks that end up being a mild annoyance.

Seriously it's not that bad of a gig, if you're really lucky you'll station in Hawaii, Germany, the Rockies, Japan...

You'll go to work every day like a normal job, just wearing camo. Your boss will be either a cool guy or a retarded asshole, and his boss will either be a cool guy or a retarded asshole.

You'll make shit loads of friends whom you can bitch about the retarded assholes with, you'll kind of feel like you're in a Murica' cult and you'll make lifelong frens.

When you get out you'll be a full citizen and likely have school paid for, and free medical benefits for life.

That's actually pretty awesome. So how does cancelling a contract work as soon as I've earned my citizenship?

Just make sure the recruiter puts everything you want in writing before you sign on the dotted line.

Ask for a bonus, like $20,000 is what they'll extend to us but I don't know if they offer that to non-citizens. Ask for. Permanent Visa upon completion of a full contract in writing. Ask for compensation for schooling in the contract. Do not sign anything until what you want is written in the contract.

Once your contract is completed you are done, as far as process to citizenship I believe you then turn in forms to the US government and they fast track a permanent Visa for service rendered. You can then do whatever the fuck you want and old boomers will buy you beers and food when you tell them you're a veteran because they literally believe you single handedly killed Saddam even though you reset routers for 6 years.

When you sign your contract, you’re obligated to a certain period of active service (usually 4 years). At the end of the period of active service, you either choose to reenlist for another period (usually shorter than your initial contact) or decide to leave. Once you leave, you’re technically kept part of the inactive reserves for another 4 years or so, but that requires no time or effort on your part, and basically involves keeping your contact information current in case of the unlikely event that the US suddenly needs huge numbers of trained troops. I don’t know about how the citizenship thing works, but I think you get it at the end of your first enlistment.

Where are you immigrating from OP? Also wherever you're immigrating from make sure you're not violating local laws by serving in a foreign military. If you have to go back for whatever reason you could find yourself in a legal hassle you don't want.

Marry an American woman. Since you’re euro, that should be easy for you. Every American woman wants a European boyfriend

Bulgaria
>60% divorce rates
>sociopathettes just waiting to abuse the working immigrant

But American women will give you lots of sex. They all use birth control too so you can cum in them as much as you want